Pythons wiping out mammals in Everglades

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Cythim;4401384 said:
I read about this a few months ago, you are right about them having no natural predator. This is what happens when humans mess with natural ecosystems for their own pleasure.


Bring in Chinese Needle Snakes, they'll eat the pythons

When the Chinese Needle Snakes get out of hand, bring in the type of Gorilla that thrives on snake meat.

And when winter rolls around, the Gorillas simply freeze to death.
 

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Doomsday101;4401393 said:
This is what happens when idiots buy exotic animals without understanding what they are getting into.

Well let's go back to the idiots who allowed their import in the first place....
 

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hipfake08;4402054 said:
Well let's go back to the idiots who allowed their import in the first place....

I agree but the guy importing them can only make a sell if someone is willing to buy.
 

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True story:

When pineapple and sugar cane crops started going up in Hawaii the rat population exploded (rats were brought by the white man).

They decided that they needed something to curtail the population explosion. So, in their infinite wisdom they decided to bring the mongoose to Hawaii.

Only one problem - rats are nocturnal - mongoose aren't. So, now there's a rat problem and mongoose problem. Brilliant!
 

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kapolani;4402155 said:
True story:

When pineapple and sugar cane crops started going up in Hawaii the rat population exploded (rats were brought by the white man).

They decided that they needed something to curtail the population explosion. So, in their infinite wisdom they decided to bring the mongoose to Hawaii.

Only one problem - rats are nocturnal - mongoose aren't. So, now there's a rat problem and mongoose problem. Brilliant!

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Trendnet;4402043 said:
Bring in Chinese Needle Snakes, they'll eat the pythons

When the Chinese Needle Snakes get out of hand, bring in the type of Gorilla that thrives on snake meat.

And when winter rolls around, the Gorillas simply freeze to death.

They freeze to death in the everglades?
 

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BrAinPaiNt;4402201 said:
They freeze to death in the everglades?

I'm sure you didn't know this (don't feel bad, most people know it either) but the temperature at which Gorillas begin to freeze is 65 degrees Fahrenheit, which is within the range of average winter temperature in the Everglades.
 

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ethiostar;4402212 said:
I'm sure you didn't know this (don't feel bad, most people know it either) but the temperature at which Gorillas begin to freeze is 65 degrees Fahrenheit, which is within the range of average winter temperature in the Everglades.

I am pretty sure the Gorillas can adept to the temp change.

In the following interview it talks about it in the first segment and it is in LONDON which can get much cooler than the everglades.

http://www.videojug.com/interview/gorillas-in-captivity-2

I have no proof that they could as a whole but I don't think who groups of wild gorillas would die off in the everglades due to temps...although I guess it might depend when they moved them there. If they went straight from tropical climate to the lowest winter temps of the everglades I could see it but I doubt it would happen if they were moved in there during the middle of spring and have some time to get used to the temps and have a gradual adapting period.

Just a guess.

Then we would have snakes and wild gorillas and I think I would rather have wild snakes running around vs wild gorillas.
 

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BrAinPaiNt;4402268 said:
I am pretty sure the Gorillas can adept to the temp change.

In the following interview it talks about it in the first segment and it is in LONDON which can get much cooler than the everglades.

http://www.videojug.com/interview/gorillas-in-captivity-2

I have no proof that they could as a whole but I don't think who groups of wild gorillas would die off in the everglades due to temps...although I guess it might depend when they moved them there. If they went straight from tropical climate to the lowest winter temps of the everglades I could see it but I doubt it would happen if they were moved in there during the middle of spring and have some time to get used to the temps and have a gradual adapting period.

Just a guess.

Then we would have snakes and wild gorillas and I think I would rather have wild snakes running around vs wild gorillas.

I agree. Let the trigger happy guys with the AK-47 go out and have some fun. :laugh2:
 

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BrAinPaiNt;4402268 said:
I am pretty sure the Gorillas can adept to the temp change.

In the following interview it talks about it in the first segment and it is in LONDON which can get much cooler than the everglades.

http://www.videojug.com/interview/gorillas-in-captivity-2

I have no proof that they could as a whole but I don't think who groups of wild gorillas would die off in the everglades due to temps...although I guess it might depend when they moved them there. If they went straight from tropical climate to the lowest winter temps of the everglades I could see it but I doubt it would happen if they were moved in there during the middle of spring and have some time to get used to the temps and have a gradual adapting period.

Just a guess.

Then we would have snakes and wild gorillas and I think I would rather have wild snakes running around vs wild gorillas.

Oh man, I was trying to be funny, but failed:eek:: I have no idea when at what temperature they start to freeze.

The average temperature in the tropical forest is around 70-75 degrees. So, I'm sure, given time, they can adapt in the Everglades, temperature wise.
 

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ethiostar;4402282 said:
Oh man, I was trying to be funny, but failed:eek:: I have no idea when at what temperature they start to freeze.

The average temperature in the tropical forest is around 70-75 degrees. So, I'm sure, given time, they can adapt in the Everglades, temperature wise.

Well I started looking it up and I seen a lot of different posts all over the internet about bringing gorillas in (to different areas for different animals) and thought maybe you had read them as well. No harm no foul. :cool:

Could you imagine going out on an everglades tour and some wild gorilla jumping out at you. :laugh1:

Also I was thinking I saw some documentary about this a year or two ago (about the snakes not gorillas) and it seemed to indicate that it might be beyond the point of changing it now IIRC.

I agree with others that there should be some kind of snake season down there. They could get some extra money for people in the state, or coming from out of state, to get special permits to go in and hunt down snakes to try and curve the population some. On top of that they could start a business of skin trade to a degree.

I would love a nice snake skin on a guitar.:D
 

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BrAinPaiNt;4402301 said:
I would love a nice snake skin on a guitar.:D

You mean on a banjo :laugh2:

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I don't get this deal about gorillas? What do revolutionary fighters have to do with snakes? :laugh2:
 

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BrAinPaiNt;4402268 said:
I am pretty sure the Gorillas can adept to the temp change.

In the following interview it talks about it in the first segment and it is in LONDON which can get much cooler than the everglades.

http://www.videojug.com/interview/gorillas-in-captivity-2

I have no proof that they could as a whole but I don't think who groups of wild gorillas would die off in the everglades due to temps...although I guess it might depend when they moved them there. If they went straight from tropical climate to the lowest winter temps of the everglades I could see it but I doubt it would happen if they were moved in there during the middle of spring and have some time to get used to the temps and have a gradual adapting period.

Just a guess.

Then we would have snakes and wild gorillas and I think I would rather have wild snakes running around vs wild gorillas.

Hey Mr. Serious...

That Chinese Needle Snake/Gorilla thing is an excerpt from an episode of The Simpsons... :cool:
 

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trickblue;4402320 said:
Hey Mr. Serious...

That Chinese Needle Snake/Gorilla thing is an excerpt from an episode of The Simpsons... :cool:


Indeed it is!

Couldn't find the video clip...

but here's the exchange in the Simpsons episode

Skinner: Well, I was wrong. The lizards are a godsend.
Lisa: But isn’t that a bit short-sighted? What happens when we’re overrun by lizards?
Skinner: No problem. We simply release wave after wave of Chinese needle snakes. They’ll wipe out the lizards.
Lisa: But aren’t the snakes even worse?
Skinner: Yes, but we’re prepared for that. We’ve lined up a fabulous type of gorilla that thrives on snake meat.
Lisa: But then we’re stuck with gorillas!
Skinner: No, that’s the beautiful part. When wintertime rolls around, the gorillas simply freeze to death.
 

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