Question about Philly strategy this week

[dbair1967]

If we beat them again, would it be because they were holding stuff back for the 2010 regular season games?

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[JohnsKey19]

The fact that a writer would even suggest that is ludicrous. I could possibly buy into it if the Eagles knew before kickoff that no matter what happened, they would be playing us again this upcoming week. But that was hardly the case. As we all know, the Eagles were playing for the #2 seed and a bye week. Under no circumstances is any team going to concede a loss and essentially lay down with that scenario on the table.

What happened to the Eagles was quite simple. They blitzed early and got gashed with the run and quick hitting pass plays. The Eagles defensive coaches panicked due to the inexperience and ineffectiveness of their LBs and began shuffling their personnel and decided to play more conservatively.

The irony is if we have success early with the run again, McDermott may have to do the exact same thing. Now he may be a little more stubborn Saturday but if we continue to have success gaining chunks against the blitz, he will have to relent at some point.

 

[Arch Stanton]

If we beat them again, would it be because they were holding stuff back for the 2010 regular season games?

:eagles:

:laugh2: Nice....

 

[kmd24]

Hopefully they will be holding back for the next decade, kinda like they did in the 1990's.

 

[CowboyWay]

I know its easy to laugh at Philly because of the stuff they or some fans have said. However, lets not get ahead of ourselves. Philly is a good team, and they will be look different this week.

They will blitz, blitz, blitz some more. I think we will end up with the W, but can any of us say you wouldn't be shocked if the Eagles won?

I don't think we'll see a ton of different things from them offensively, but defensively, they will throw everything but the kitchen sink at us. Don't get too cocky. its going to be a tough game.

 

[Mexicanmarauder]

You can expect a much different game but to be honest with you, I just think Dallas is a better team this time around.

Unless Romo throws like 4 picks, I don't see the iggles having a chance.

 

[Boyzmamacita]

You can expect a much different game but to be honest with you, I just think Dallas is a better team this time around.

Unless Romo throws like 4 picks, I don't see the iggles having a chance.

Exactly. The ball may bounce differently Saturday night, but the Eagles won't all of sudden become a better team than the Cowboys in 6 days. Dallas has surpassed Philly and the chip on the Cowboys collective shoulder will keep them focused enough to complete the threesweep.

 

[Don Corleone]

I wouldn't say that I'm overconfident. I'm just sick and tired of the Eagles getting a pass on such a lousy performance.

They have so many apologists out there that claim the following:

1) The Eagles defense didn't blitz on 17 of the first 20 offensive plays by Dallas. Duh! Could that be because Romo kept burning them on the blitz? Did they watch the first game in Philly earlier this year? Romo made them pay for blitzing, and they blitzed him on 11 of the first 12 offensive plays. In reality, the Eagles have simply lost some talent on the defensive side of the ball, and they cannot blitz good teams like they used to because of it.

2) The Eagles didn't connect on their long pass plays. Ya think maybe the pressure of the Cowboys d-line had something to do with it? Give them points for their errant throws, and let us get the points back for our mistakes. The Cowboys would still win 41-21.

3) Andy Reid has always bounced back and won these kinds of games. There is no direct correlation to this weekend's game. The result is completely independent of what happed in years past. Maybe times have changed? In the late 1990's, the Cowboys were seen as a decling team with an aging QB. McNabb is no spring chicken either.

Not one ounce of credit is given to the Cowboys for their performance as of late. Against the Saints, ahh, the Saints just blew it at the end of the game with the Brees fumble. Against the Skins, well, their just the Skins.

 

[CowboyWay]

1) The Eagles defense didn't blitz on 17 of the first 20 offensive plays by Dallas. Duh! Could that be because Romo kept burning them on the blitz? Did they watch the first game in Philly earlier this year? Romo made them pay for blitzing, and they blitzed him on 11 of the first 12 offensive plays..

I wish I could agree with you on this, but its simply not true in either game. We only scored 16pts the first meeting, and its not like all 16pts came from big plays on the blitz.

The fact of the matter is, when they blitz, they do get pressure on Romo. On the Roy play this week where he zigged and Romo zagged, that was a blitz. Had romo had a hair more time, he would have been able to read that Roy went inside and Romo could have hit him for a score. But instead, because of the blitz, Romo had to get rid of the ball and it sailed out of bounds.

The fact remains, when philly blitz's, its pretty effective. And after what Philly saw Romo did to the zone D last week, I would expect more blitz's than EVER from philly. If they lose, it won't be because of a lack of aggressiveness.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

It'll be because they just played poorly, we know that. We'll have to wait to get the exact details.

Troy was saying on the Ticket this morning that you know the Eagles won't play such a bad game again. Of course.

 

[Don Corleone]

I wish I could agree with you on this, but its simply not true in either game. We only scored 16pts the first meeting, and its not like all 16pts came from big plays on the blitz.

The fact of the matter is, when they blitz, they do get pressure on Romo. On the Roy play this week where he zigged and Romo zagged, that was a blitz. Had romo had a hair more time, he would have been able to read that Roy went inside and Romo could have hit him for a score. But instead, because of the blitz, Romo had to get rid of the ball and it sailed out of bounds.

The fact remains, when philly blitz's, its pretty effective. And after what Philly saw Romo did to the zone D last week, I would expect more blitz's than EVER from philly. If they lose, it won't be because of a lack of aggressiveness.

Rewatch the first game if you get a chance. They blitzed on every down for a while. It might be 3rd and 8, and then Romo zings a pass for a completion and first down. It may have worked on earlier downs, but he made them pay on 3rd down.

And when they sacked him, he came back the very next play for a long completion.

The errant Roy Williams pass in the 2nd game was also miscommunication, not just pressure from the Eagles. Romo may have been surprised that they were blitzing at all.

We scored 20 points in that first game...not 16.

 

[SilberBlau]

I wish I could agree with you on this, but its simply not true in either game. We only scored 16pts the first meeting, and its not like all 16pts came from big plays on the blitz.

The fact of the matter is, when they blitz, they do get pressure on Romo. On the Roy play this week where he zigged and Romo zagged, that was a blitz. Had romo had a hair more time, he would have been able to read that Roy went inside and Romo could have hit him for a score. But instead, because of the blitz, Romo had to get rid of the ball and it sailed out of bounds.

The fact remains, when philly blitz's, its pretty effective. And after what Philly saw Romo did to the zone D last week, I would expect more blitz's than EVER from philly. If they lose, it won't be because of a lack of aggressiveness.

I guess we scored 20, but anyway, we had a lot of important plays against the blitz. TD to Austin for example. The Ogletree screen that almost scored, IIRC the Choice wildcat TD came after that. That actually proves that most of the points came out of plays that countered the blitz.
They paid for it. They know that. That's why there wasn't so much blitzing on Sunday.

 

[CowboyWay]

Rewatch the first game if you get a chance. They blitzed on every down for a while. It might be 3rd and 8, and then Romo zings a pass for a completion and first down. It may have worked on earlier downs, but he made them pay on 3rd down.

And when they sacked him, he came back the very next play for a long completion.

The errant Roy Williams pass in the 2nd game was also miscommunication, not just pressure from the Eagles. Romo may have been surprised that they were blitzing at all.

We scored 20 points in that first game...not 16.

Sorry. 20pts.

I did watch the first game, and they came after Romo pretty good, and for the most part it was effective. Remember, prior to the top and go for a td by Austin, we hadn't done much offensively. That was mid 4th quarter I believe. And it wasn't a blitz play if memory serves but I'll need to go back and look to be sure.

All I'm saying is there seems to be a lack of healthy respect for philly around here, and when they chose to blitz, it is fairly effective. At the very least, more effective than sitting in the zone, which I don't expect to see at all from philly this week.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Rewatch the first game if you get a chance. They blitzed on every down for a while. It might be 3rd and 8, and then Romo zings a pass for a completion and first down. It may have worked on earlier downs, but he made them pay on 3rd down.

And when they sacked him, he came back the very next play for a long completion.

The errant Roy Williams pass in the 2nd game was also miscommunication, not just pressure from the Eagles. Romo may have been surprised that they were blitzing at all.

We scored 20 points in that first game...not 16.

very true. that's when JG threw a few screen passes and we ran some delayed draws and made big plays and that slowed them down. also that's when Crayton had his big play from the slot with a quick drop and hitting him matched up against a LB.

 

[Givincer]

All I'm saying is there seems to be a lack of healthy respect for philly around here

I think you tend to lose respect when you get blown out, in a shut out, in a game of such importance.

 

[SilberBlau]

And it wasn't a blitz play if memory serves but I'll need to go back and look to be sure.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NaaaWmAeDHc&feature=player_embedded

blitz

 

[CowboyWay]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NaaaWmAeDHc&feature=player_embedded

blitz

Ok, good find. One man blitz

Lets not assume that everything is dandy though. It is still clear that we don't score as often when they blitz, as when they don't.

It took us the entire game to get to 20 pts in the first matchup.

We had 17 at halftime last week when they didn't blitz.

Clearly, philly is going to come after Romo this weekend. They will not sit back in that zone.

 

[L-O-Jete]

Ok, good find. One man blitz

Lets not assume that everything is dandy though. It is still clear that we don't score as often when they blitz, as when they don't.

It took us the entire game to get to 20 pts in the first matchup.

We had 17 at halftime last week when they didn't blitz.

Clearly, philly is going to come after Romo this weekend. They will not sit back in that zone.

There's a 6th guy coming on a delay...

But I agree they're going to blitz all day saturday