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Can you check (when you have time) who leads the NFL in TDs given up in the 4th quarter by a defense following their offense scoring a TD?


Like, over the past three years?


I want to know what defense gives up the most (%) TD drives following a drive where their offense scored a TD. Seems the cowboys should be pretty high on that list.


No heart. Plain and simple. You're best player gets punked and has his career possibly ended by the chargers on your home field and instead of getting fired up and wanting to break someone's leg you give up a 30 yard pass then a TD in the next two plays. Then on the next drive you let a team run the ball down your throat that hadn't been able to run on you all day.

Wade needs to go, and he needs to take half the team with him.
 

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Heck, are there any stats for third and long plays by a defense?

Our secondary just seems to collapse repeatedly in key moments.
 

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Rack Bauer;3140078 said:
Can you check (when you have time) who leads the NFL in TDs given up in the 4th quarter by a defense following their offense scoring a TD?


Like, over the past three years?


I want to know what defense gives up the most (%) TD drives following a drive where their offense scored a TD. Seems the cowboys should be pretty high on that list.


No heart. Plain and simple. You're best player gets punked and has his career possibly ended by the chargers on your home field and instead of getting fired up and wanting to break someone's leg you give up a 30 yard pass then a TD in the next two plays. Then on the next drive you let a team run the ball down your throat that hadn't been able to run on you all day.

Wade needs to go, and he needs to take half the team with him.

That was Newman's fault... They had them in third and long, and all Newman had to do was not let his man get behind him...
 

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chuffly;3140480 said:
Heck, are there any stats for third and long plays by a defense?

Our secondary just seems to collapse repeatedly in key moments.

Over the last two seasons the Cowboys have to have the most 3rd & 10+ failures on defense of any team over that period, and by a long shot in my opinion. I am curious about the actual numbers, but don't have the resources nor time to crunch the numbers.
 

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khiladi;3140536 said:
That was Newman's fault... They had them in third and long, and all Newman had to do was not let his man get behind him...

Newman and Sensabaugh were both at fault. Newman played it correctly (slightly trailing to the inside), he just got too far away from Jackson. Sensabaugh got turned inside, though, which is why he couldn't get over in time. If Sensabaugh plays it correctly, Rivers doesn't throw that pass.
 

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Rack Bauer;3140078 said:
I want to know what defense gives up the most (%) TD drives following a drive where their offense scored a TD. Seems the cowboys should be pretty high on that list.

I don't have any way of finding that stat, but I doubt we're actually that high (worse) on the list. Teams with bad defenses almost certainly will be the worst, because they'll allow more touchdown drives, period.

Just like the third-and-long conversions against our defense, I doubt we're high (worse) on that list, either. Fans see it happen to us and think it doesn't ever happen to other defenses, but it does, and plenty of defenses are a lot worse than us.

We've had one of the top scoring defenses and one of the top third-down defenses this season. If you think those things happen a lot to us, imagine how often they happen against bad defenses.
 

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Rack Bauer;3140078 said:
No heart. Plain and simple. You're best player gets punked and has his career possibly ended by the chargers on your home field and instead of getting fired up and wanting to break someone's leg you give up a 30 yard pass then a TD in the next two plays. Then on the next drive you let a team run the ball down your throat that hadn't been able to run on you all day.

Utterly ridiculous. We lose our best defensive player (who happens to be our main pass rusher) and then we give up some pass plays to the best passing offense in the NFL. And the reason that that happened is...because our players have "no heart"? Give me a break.

We don't lose because of our players' (or coaches' or owner's) character flaws. We lose because the other team plays better. Well, and today because we couldn't punch it in from 1 yard out.

We're going to go 8-8 or 9-7 or 10-6 because we have 8-8 or 9-7 or 10-6 talent.
 

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AdamJT13;3140755 said:
Newman and Sensabaugh were both at fault. Newman played it correctly (slightly trailing to the inside), he just got too far away from Jackson. Sensabaugh got turned inside, though, which is why he couldn't get over in time. If Sensabaugh plays it correctly, Rivers doesn't throw that pass.

If Sensabaugh doesn't go inside, then no, Rivers doesn't throw that pass, he throws one to the guy going uncovered down the middle of the field for a TD.
 

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ChldsPlay;3140928 said:
If Sensabaugh doesn't go inside, then no, Rivers doesn't throw that pass, he throws one to the guy going uncovered down the middle of the field for a TD.

The safety is not supposed to get turned on that play before the ball is thrown. There should be a linebacker or nickel back underneath the post and a cornerback underneath the 9 on the sideline. The safety stays over the top and has to be able to break on either receiver. Once Sensabaugh turns inside, it's an easy read for Rivers, because he knows the safety will never get over in time. Or if Sensabaugh turns outside too soon, then it's an easy throw to the post. But if Sensabaugh plays it correctly, Rivers either has to make a perfect pass or he throws it someplace else.

Sensabaugh simply had a terrible game.
 

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AdamJT13;3141033 said:
The safety is not supposed to get turned on that play before the ball is thrown. There should be a linebacker or nickel back underneath the post and a cornerback underneath the 9 on the sideline. The safety stays over the top and has to be able to break on either receiver. Once Sensabaugh turns inside, it's an easy read for Rivers, because he knows the safety will never get over in time. Or if Sensabaugh turns outside too soon, then it's an easy throw to the post. But if Sensabaugh plays it correctly, Rivers either has to make a perfect pass or he throws it someplace else.

Sensabaugh simply had a terrible game.

If Sensabaugh went to the middle any later, it was a TD, the guy was running away from him and he would have had no chance to make a play. Honestly, I think Rivers still made the wrong decision and that he would have had a TD to the guy in the middle even with Sensabaugh going inside.
 
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