Question on Dez penalty

[BotchedLobotomy]

I understand the out of bounds rule, but how can they call that penalty and not call a penalty on the Def. for illegal contact? It was clearly after the five yards that is allowed.

 

[JohnsKey19]

I understand the out of bounds rule, but how can they call that penalty and not call a penalty on the Def. for illegal contact? It was clearly after the five yards that is allowed.

good point.

 

[BourbonBalz]

I wondered the same thing. He was clearly pushed out of bounds. Either it was within 5 yards or the officials missed one. I also thought his first "TD" catch should've been a TD. His feet didn't get in bounds, but they also didn't appear to be out of bounds. He came down in the end zone with the ball in his hands and his upper body hit the end zone in bounds.

 

[7footer]

Because it's the Cowboys...

Seriously, that rule is a joke...and you're absolutely correct, if he was forced out of bounds then there should be illegal contact It essentially penalizes the offense for a penalty by the defense...and it was a pretty costly one.

I think it should be revised so that if the receiver is forced out of bounds by the defense, he should be able to re-establish himself on the field and catch the ball without penalty. The rule was created to stop players from willingly going out of bounds to get free from the defender...NOT for situations like this.

 

[CalCBFan]

I understand the out of bounds rule, but how can they call that penalty and not call a penalty on the Def. for illegal contact? It was clearly after the five yards that is allowed.

The Ticket just discussed this on their post game show. He has to be puched out by virtue of a penalty to come back in and re-establish himself; i.e if he was pushed out by virtue of an illegal chuck or PI he could come back in and catch the ball. He made some very inspiring plays and I give this kid a lot of credit for the win. We have to remember, though, the Texans have a very poor 2ndary and I hope the team doesn't get too ahead of themselves. But a very solid and welcome win nonetheless. I just hope they can keep it going after the bye...

 

[Boyzmamacita]

Because it's the Cowboys...

Seriously, that rule is a joke...and you're absolutely correct, if he was forced out of bounds then there should be illegal contact It essentially penalizes the offense for a penalty by the defense...and it was a pretty costly one.

I think it should be revised so that if the receiver is forced out of bounds by the defense, he should be able to re-establish himself on the field and catch the ball without penalty. The rule was created to stop players from willingly going out of bounds to get free from the defender...NOT for situations like this.

Sooner or later these great plays by Dez are gonna count. That will be fun.

 

[Nova]

I'll explain...

Star on the helmet = 10 yard penalty.

...No seriously, I still don't understand the original ruling. If a CB can bump a receiver out of bounds then why not do that all the time? If the WR establishes himself in bounds as quickly as possible after being knocked out (against his will) what's wrong with that? There is no benefit for the offense, so what's the infraction?

 

[Boyzmamacita]

The Ticket just discussed this on their post game show. He has to be puched out by virtue of a penalty to come back in and re-establish himself; i.e if he was pushed out by virtue of an illegal chuck or PI he could come back in and catch the ball. He made some very inspiring plays and I give this kid a lot of credit for the win. We have to remember, though, the Texans have a very poor 2ndary and I hope the team doesn't get too ahead of themselves. But a very solid and welcome win nonetheless. I just hope they can keep it going after the bye...

The Texans secondary is weak, but their run defense is supposed to be pretty stout yet the Cowboys did pretty well on the ground. This was a great all-around team effort today. I'm sure the Cowboys know they need to work on some stuff and I'm sure they will.

 

[5Stars]

I'll explain...

Star on the helmet = 10 yard penalty.

...No seriously, I still don't understand the original ruling. If a CB can bump a receiver out of bounds then why not do that all the time? If the WR establishes himself in bounds as quickly as possible after being knocked out (against his will) what's wrong with that? There is no benefit for the offense, so what's the infraction?

A CB cannot bump a recviever out of bounds unless it is within 5 yards.

If a reciever lines up to close to the sidelines and the CB sees that he can bump him out...the yeah, do it...it takes the guy out of the play.

But, that cannot happen way downfield.

Now, I don't remember where Dez was when he was pushed out, and if he was pushed out after 5 yards, it should be a penality.

 

[Stautner]

I wondered the same thing. He was clearly pushed out of bounds. Either it was within 5 yards or the officials missed one. I also thought his first "TD" catch should've been a TD. His feet didn't get in bounds, but they also didn't appear to be out of bounds. He came down in the end zone with the ball in his hands and his upper body hit the end zone in bounds.

I had the same first thought about the long pass, but on a second look one foot touched out of bounds before his body came down.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

The better question, IMO, is the play down field where Dez caught the ball down near the goal. He was called out of bounds on the catch but the funny thing was that the DB hit him early, which caused him to land out of bounds and nothing was called. That was clearly PI but nothing was called. In a year or two, he will get that call. Not yet.

 

[theogt]

The better question, IMO, is the play down field where Dez caught the ball down near the goal. He was called out of bounds on the catch but the funny thing was that the DB hit him early, which caused him to land out of bounds and nothing was called. That was clearly PI but nothing was called. In a year or two, he will get that call. Not yet.

Heh, so true.

 

[FLCowboyFan]

I went back and watched the push out of bounds and it looks like it was 4-5 yards past the line of scrimmage. So it is a good no call on the push.

 

[Stautner]

I went back and watched the push out of bounds and it looks like it was 4-5 yards past the line of scrimmage. So it is a good no call on the push.

Good job. Another conspiracy theory down the drain.

For me, so what if they had missed it anyway. Our fans tend to act as if we are the only NFL team that every gets bad calls.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Good job. Another conspiracy theory down the drain.

For me, so what if they had missed it anyway. Our fans tend to act as if we are the only NFL team that every gets bad calls.

I didn't really have a beef with the push out of bounds call. To me, that was just good defense. If you can get away with it, you should try to use any and all advantage. However, I thought the play down on the goal line was pretty obvious. It wasn't really even a bang-bang play IMO. I thought the official should have gotten that one.

 

[Stautner]

I didn't really have a beef with the push out of bounds call. To me, that was just good defense. If you can get away with it, you should try to use any and all advantage. However, I thought the play down on the goal line was pretty obvious. It wasn't really even a bang-bang play IMO. I thought the official should have gotten that one.

I need to go back and look at that one. My main focus on that one was whether he was really out of bounds. My first thought was that even though his legs were hanging out of bounds, his body and the ball hit first and were in bounds, but on 2nd look I saw his foot touched out of bounds first. I've read that some feel he was hit before the ball got there. I may have missed that.

 

[5Stars]

I didn't really have a beef with the push out of bounds call. To me, that was just good defense. If you can get away with it, you should try to use any and all advantage. However, I thought the play down on the goal line was pretty obvious. It wasn't really even a bang-bang play IMO. I thought the official should have gotten that one.

I thought a rule was changed a few years back, that even if you were hit out of bounds by a defender before coming down...then, tough luck. No catch...

However, what I thought I saw was that the DB was in his face just a second or so before the ball arrived. That should have been pass interference.

 

[Stautner]

I thought a rule was changed a few years back, that even if you were hit out of bounds by a defender before coming down...then, tough luck. No catch...

However, what I thought I saw was that the DB was in his face just a second or so before the ball arrived. That should have been pass interference.

You are right about the rule change, so the question was just if the DB hit him early. I didn't notice it, but I was looking more at whether he was in bounds or not.

 

[5Stars]

You are right about the rule change, so the question was just if the DB hit him early. I didn't notice it, but I was looking more at whether he was in bounds or not.

Dez has uncanny ability to go high for the ball, but, I tell you...IMO, that DB was in his face way before the ball came to Dez, and the CB did not look back for the ball.

Should have been pass interference...I don't know.

 

[Kangaroo]

I thought a rule was changed a few years back, that even if you were hit out of bounds by a defender before coming down...then, tough luck. No catch...

However, what I thought I saw was that the DB was in his face just a second or so before the ball arrived. That should have been pass interference.

The DB pushed him before the Ball arrived