Question on Draft Value chart

vicjagger

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So, I understand compensatory picks can't be traded, and thus would have no point value. However, they do push teams draft picks further down the line. For example Dallas' 7th round draft picks will come about 25 spots later because of the compensatory picks awarded to other teams in rounds 3-6. How does that effect the trade value points? The chart only awards points to the first 224 picks (7 rounds x 32 slots).
 

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So, I understand compensatory picks can't be traded, and thus would have no point value. However, they do push teams draft picks further down the line. For example Dallas' 7th round draft picks will come about 25 spots later because of the compensatory picks awarded to other teams in rounds 3-6. How does that effect the trade value points? The chart only awards points to the first 224 picks (7 rounds x 32 slots).

You just go by the overall pick position.

In the original chart, R4-P1 is overall pick #129. If there are 10 comp pick in R3, then that pick is now overall #139. To find the chart value of that pick just look at overall pick #139 on the chart which will look like R4-11.
 

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So, I understand compensatory picks can't be traded, and thus would have no point value. However, they do push teams draft picks further down the line. For example Dallas' 7th round draft picks will come about 25 spots later because of the compensatory picks awarded to other teams in rounds 3-6. How does that effect the trade value points? The chart only awards points to the first 224 picks (7 rounds x 32 slots).

Here is a 2015 specific draft trade chart that I made.

2025-draft-trade-chart.jpg
 

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So, I understand compensatory picks can't be traded, and thus would have no point value. However, they do push teams draft picks further down the line. For example Dallas' 7th round draft picks will come about 25 spots later because of the compensatory picks awarded to other teams in rounds 3-6. How does that effect the trade value points? The chart only awards points to the first 224 picks (7 rounds x 32 slots).

Here is the generic draft trade chart.

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Trade value charts like these, I don't think, are a strict standard that many teams adhere too.

I wouldn't. Draft slots shouldn't have a value. The player at a spot has value. Spot #27 this year is worth what it is this year. Maybe there is a first round rated player there this year. Next year, spot #27 may be worth less or more. Depending on who is there. If a second round rated guy is there next year, I certainly wouldn't give up what I would have given up for a first round talent this year.

I would assign points to a player based on my rankings. If someone wanted to trade up to my spot, I'd look at what player/points I could draft there, and then come up with picks/players/points that would equate to that. And again, it would vary from year to year. A static board like above, to me, is fairly useless.
 

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So, I understand compensatory picks can't be traded, and thus would have no point value. However, they do push teams draft picks further down the line. For example Dallas' 7th round draft picks will come about 25 spots later because of the compensatory picks awarded to other teams in rounds 3-6. How does that effect the trade value points? The chart only awards points to the first 224 picks (7 rounds x 32 slots).

Once you get to the late 7th round, the points are negligible anyway and it's just up to whether or not a GM wants a throw-in

These charts are flexible anyway depending the draft class, desperation of the traders, and also where you are in the draft.

Things get a bit whacky at the very top of the draft, for example.

Once you get to our pick at 27, you'll find that most trades are very aligned with this chart...surprisingly so actually.
I charted a ton of these and they came in at about 95% accurate.

At the very least, it gives a good common ground to begin trade talks
 
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Trade value charts like these, I don't think, are a strict standard that many teams adhere too.

I wouldn't. Draft slots shouldn't have a value. The player at a spot has value. Spot #27 this year is worth what it is this year. Maybe there is a first round rated player there this year. Next year, spot #27 may be worth less or more. Depending on who is there. If a second round rated guy is there next year, I certainly wouldn't give up what I would have given up for a first round talent this year.

I would assign points to a player based on my rankings. If someone wanted to trade up to my spot, I'd look at what player/points I could draft there, and then come up with picks/players/points that would equate to that. And again, it would vary from year to year. A static board like above, to me, is fairly useless.

The trade chart is a great reference for mock drafts. Nobody knows what an NFL will actually give up in a trade until the minute that it happens.
 
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