Question on penalty acceptance

[LandryFan]

On one of the Bears' kidkoff returns, Hester took the ball from the end zone and was tackled at his eight yd line. On the play, there were two penalties. On was either a hold or block in the back (forget which) and that penalty was enforced half the distance to the goal. The other penalty occured after the play was dead when Hester spiked the ball and drew a delay of game penalty which was declined. My question: If the Delay of Game was a dead ball penalty, why could (should) it not have been accepted and enforced after the first penalty, which would have pushed Chicago back to the two yard line? Thanks for the help.

 

[DallasInDC]

I was wondering the same thing. A dead ball foul should be tacked on to the end of the play (which the result of that play was a penalty).

 

[DBOY3141]

Because the refs sucked the whole game and missed another one.:laugh1:

 

[LandryFan]

Because the refs sucked the whole game and missed another one.:laugh1:

My thought was exactly that.

 

[big dog cowboy]

At the time that happened, my wife asked me what happened. All I said was "&$@!^* refs" and she understood completely.

 

[Hostile]

On one of the Bears' kidkoff returns, Hester took the ball from the end zone and was tackled at his eight yd line. On the play, there were two penalties. On was either a hold or block in the back (forget which) and that penalty was enforced half the distance to the goal. The other penalty occured after the play was dead when Hester spiked the ball and drew a delay of game penalty which was declined. My question: If the Delay of Game was a dead ball penalty, why could (should) it not have been accepted and enforced after the first penalty, which would have pushed Chicago back to the two yard line? Thanks for the help.

Only one penalty can be accepted unless they are personal fouls or unsportsmanlike conduct after the play. In that case it is considered a 2nd infraction. Delay of game is not.

The accepting team will always take the most consequential, in this case block in the back.

 

[RomoIsBack]

those refs suck

 

[LandryFan]

Only one penalty can be accepted unless they are personal fouls or unsportsmanlike conduct after the play. In that case it is considered a 2nd infraction. Delay of game is not.

The accepting team will always take the most consequential, in this case block in the back.

Thanks, Hos. Now I know.

 

[Kevinicus]

Only one penalty can be accepted unless they are personal fouls or unsportsmanlike conduct after the play. In that case it is considered a 2nd infraction. Delay of game is not.

The accepting team will always take the most consequential, in this case block in the back.

I thought that only applied to each play. If there are 2 penalties on a play, then only one can be accepted. But this wasn't 2 penalties on a play. It was a penalty on a play, and then a penalty after the play was dead. As far as I can tell, both should be counted. Much like if there was delay of game for letting the play clock run out before they ran a play on that drive, delay for spiking the ball should have set them back a couple yards.

 

[Hostile]

I thought that only applied to each play. If there are 2 penalties on a play, then only one can be accepted. But this wasn't 2 penalties on a play. It was a penalty on a play, and then a penalty after the play was dead. As far as I can tell, both should be counted. Much like if there was delay of game for letting the play clock run out before they ran a play on that drive, delay for spiking the ball should have set them back a couple yards.

Not as far as I know.

The only times I have ever seen Refs tack on more is for Unsportsmanlike Conduct or a Personal Foul after the play. These are considered a continuation of the play even if the play is over.

As far as I know (and I certainly could be wrong) delay of game for spiking is not considered a continuation. This is the very first year they've done this. I think they are trying to break teams of it, not make a statement with it.

 

[Zaxor]

Only one penalty can be accepted unless they are personal fouls or unsportsmanlike conduct after the play. In that case it is considered a 2nd infraction. Delay of game is not.

The accepting team will always take the most consequential, in this case block in the back.

so if the bears move before the snap they couldn't get a penalty

they are both dead ball fouls following the last play...or am I misinterpeting what you are saying

 

[Hostile]

so if the bears move before the snap they couldn't get a penalty

they are both dead ball fouls following the last play...or am I misinterpeting what you are saying

Let's say the Bears have 2 players flagged for holding.

Only 1 can be enforced.

If they move early, dead ball. No play.

If they hold and commit a personal foul, only 1 will be enforced. However, if the personal foul occurs after the play is blown dead, they will tack it on.

 

[DallasInDC]

Let's say the Bears have 2 players flagged for holding.

Only 1 can be enforced.

If they move early, dead ball. No play.

If they hold and commit a personal foul, only 1 will be enforced. However, if the personal foul occurs after the play is blown dead, they will tack it on.

Soo hypotheticaly if the NT encroaches and makes contact with the center before the ball is snapped and out of frustation picks up the ball and spikes it. there would only be one penalty enforced, but if in attempting to spike the ball he hit the center with it instead there would be two penalties encroachment and unsports-man-like penalty. :

 

[Hostile]

Soo hypotheticaly if the NT encroaches and makes contact with the center before the ball is snapped and out of frustation picks up the ball and spikes it. there would only be one penalty. :

I believe so, yes. If he did it again they'd elevate it to Unsportsmanlike Conduct and tack that on.