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i've been watching the cowboys since 1975 and i know there are plenty here that have watched as long or longer than i have.



i was 8 years old when i started this obsession.

i'm 45 now.

i've seen it all....the good, the bad and everything in between.

please tell me what is the root cause of what we are seeing now?
 
lane;4764326 said:
i've been watching the cowboys since 1975 and i know there are plenty here that have watched as long or longer than i have.



i was 8 years old when i started this obsession.

i'm 45 now.

i've seen it all....the good, the bad and everything in between.

please tell me what is the root cause of what we are seeing now?

General Manager
 
irvin88;4764330 said:
General Manager

it is that ..

in my opinion that is the right answer.

he is making a mockery of this franchise.
 
lane;4764338 said:
it is that ..

in my opinion that is the right answer.

he is making a mockery of this franchise.

He already did that when he fired Jimmy Johnson after winning two Super Bowls. :(
 
I'm 50 and have been around a few years longer. Frankly, I don't know. I guess it could be Jerry Jones, but who knows. I think it is probably the fact that he continually hires "yes men" as head coaches. I just don't know how a team that has assembled a pretty good amount of talent over the past 6-7 years can underachieve so much on an annual basis. It has gotten past embarrassing.
 
Several issues, but the biggest is without question Jerry. He seems to think you can just blatantly ignore the trenches and win football games. You can't. You won't a find a single past Super Bowl champion that was this weak in the trenches. Offensively we may have the worst line in the league. Under 3 yards per carry on the ground today and once again no time for Tony and he had five turnovers.

The defensive line is average at best. We really missed Spencer. He's not a great player like Ware, but he is solid at stopping the run and rushing the passer. Not great, but solid. Outside of Ware no one can get pressure on the quarterback consistently. Doesn't matter who you have back there in the secondary they will get carved up if you can't get pressure on the quarterback.
 
Weak in the trenches on both sides of the ball, lack of leadership. Seems like every player is out for their own contract and stats and they don't put in the work as a TEAM.
 
links18;4764366 said:
What do you think happened?
Exactly what Jimmy has said all along, he had planned to stay 5 years and leave and that Jerry tried to talk him out of it.
 
lane;4764326 said:
i've been watching the cowboys since 1975 and i know there are plenty here that have watched as long or longer than i have.



i was 8 years old when i started this obsession.

i'm 45 now.

i've seen it all....the good, the bad and everything in between.

please tell me what is the root cause of what we are seeing now?

The root cause is not having a solid, qualified head coach who the players believe in and know is in control. This all falls on Jerry. The Cowboys greatest success under him was when his head coach was in control. Nothing is ever going change with the Cowboys if Jerry continues having all the control and hiring puppets as head coaches. He needs to bring in a big name head coach who has a track record for success, is demanding and give them the same control Jimmy had.
 
big dog cowboy;4764371 said:
Exactly what Jimmy has said all along, he had planned to stay 5 years and leave and that Jerry tried to talk him out of it.

Are you sure it had nothing to do with a certain drunken rant wherein our owner and general manager went on record as saying he could find one of 500 or something coaches to coach the talent he assembled?

I know Jerry and Jimmy have made nice and all, but its hard to think Jimmy couldn't have been persuaded to come back by a normal GM.
 
KJJ;4764379 said:
The root cause is not having a solid, qualified head coach who the players believe in and know is in control. This all falls on Jerry. The Cowboys greatest success under him was when his head coach was in control. Nothing is ever going change with the Cowboys if Jerry continues having all the control and hiring puppets as head coaches. He needs to bring in a big name head coach who has a track record for success, is demanding and give them the same control Jimmy had.


do you think that will happen?
 
links18;4764380 said:
Are you sure it had nothing to do with a certain drunken rant wherein our owner and general manager went on record as saying he could find one of 500 or something coaches to coach the talent he assembled?

I know Jerry and Jimmy have made nice and all, but its hard to think Jimmy couldn't have been persuaded to come back by a normal GM.

:bow:
 
big dog cowboy;4764371 said:
Exactly what Jimmy has said all along, he had planned to stay 5 years and leave and that Jerry tried to talk him out of it.

Sounds like you are the one re-writing history. Jerry tried to talk him out of it? Riiiiight.
 
The bottom line is Jerry needs to go back to the formula that worked like a charm when he bought the team in 89 or his team is going to continue spinning it's wheels. From everything I've read and heard no head coach in the NFL has less control over their team than the head coaches Jerry hires.

I haven't researched it but I doubt there's any current head coach in the league that spent only 5 years like Garrett working their way up to be an NFL head coach. I'm convinced from watching the Cowboys play under Garrett that the players don't believe in him. After 28 games under him the team shows no desire, passion or resiliency.

Once the Cowboys get down by 10 or more points they begin to fold tent. You don't see any fight in this team they just fold up. The Cowboys have only played 4 games this season and have been blown out in 2 of them. Even the most optimistic FAN has to be very troubled by what they've seen so far.
 
Subpar Oline, and running game. Other than Ware, a a inconsistant pass rush.
 
lane;4764338 said:
it is that ..

in my opinion that is the right answer.

he is making a mockery of this franchise.

He cannot make a mockery of the franchise. Only himself.

He has no business being in the hierarchy of decision makers on talent acquisition.

There is a problem here with the culture of the team. You cannot have the owner and GM be the same person because the players have access to the GM. And this circumvents the head coach.

If Jerry was astute he would have hired Sean Payton then took a step back and found a GM that recognizes talent.

But instead he hired the guy who struggled with play calling after Payton left.

People mention the asthma field, but there was something even more telling about Jimmy.

When Emmitt was drafted he held out. Jimmy was amazed Emmitt lasted long enough for Dallas to take him after the line backer was gone.

But when Emmitt held out, Jimmy did not play him much the first two weeks.

He had 2 carries in the first game and 6 in the second.

Jimmy sent a message to the player and the team. Regardless of those who say that doesn't matter, it does.
 
BAT;4764418 said:
Sounds like you are the one re-writing history. Jerry tried to talk him out of it? Riiiiight.
Oh really? Why would I do that when it is documented what happened. Side note, Jimmy's decision was made way way before Jerry made his "500 coaches" comment.
 

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