Quick look at Toia

[Denim Chicken]

He was voted team MVP at a post season banquet

For competitive eating?

 

[75boyz]

Success in the NFL doesn't come from luck.

It comes from competent leadership, management, and execution

Truer words never spoken brother.

It's just my favorite team of over 50 years has reduced me to being a hope for luck fan.
Ugh, now I even sound like a Jones.

And I know that ain't no strategy.
It's just all I got left with the current management team continuing on.

Cowboys!

 

[Gambit]

Success in the NFL doesn't come from luck.

It comes from competent leadership, management, and execution

And luck. This can't be denied.

 

[Gambit]

For competitive eating?

Dallas needs a big fat dude in the DL....
Dallas gets said dude....
Low brow fans then mock dude for his size...

 

[jazzcat22]

Success in the NFL doesn't come from luck.

It comes from competent leadership, management, and execution

Then explain this.
Bledsoe gets hurt, in come Brady. That otherwise may not have seen the field except for mop up duty.

 

[Blackrain]

He certainly shows that he's more than up for the task at the college level.
Now we just have to be patient and see how it turns out at the NFL level if he can do the same thing and hold the point of attack get some penetration and occupy two blockers.
It's a very good pic.
If he can develop in a year to be able to do it at the NFL level it's still a good pic.

A guy that was MVP in the postseason wow we haven't had anybody show any fire in a postseason game on defense in a while.

 

[Creeper]

They really need one of their big DTs to show up. They have 3 guys now over 330 lbs. I suspect Mazi is a lock and they will keep one of Rogers or Toia.

Having said that, Rogers and Toia are 7th round picks. Scouts saw something to make them drop Toia into the last round. That doesn't guarantee he will not succeed in the NFL, but it does mean we should temper our optimism about him. Quinton Bohanna had a highlight video too.

 

[Whyjerry]

So Mazi was a 1 and he sucks but Toia was a 7 and he is going to fix our DT problem?

 

[Acceptablename]

Success in the NFL doesn't come from luck.

It comes from competent leadership, management, and execution

Lack of injury, The way the ball bounces,umpire calls

 

[thunderpimp91]

Dallas needs a big fat dude in the DL....
Dallas gets said dude....
Low brow fans then mock dude for his size...

Because a lot of fans are 20 years behind whats actually happening in the NFL. The days of just putting a big fat dude out there to be a plugger are mostly gone. With more mobile QBs, and 70% of runs being zone designs the 340+ pound guys who cant move well just get walled off to open up lanes. Arm length to create extension and lateral movement from your interior players are crucial if said player is going to see significant snaps, until the league reverts back to more gap/power based run schemes.

 

[John813]

Our Dline would have looked like

Parsons ..........$40M
Osa..................$20
Fowlers............$10M
Mazi.................1st round pick
Grant................1st round pick
Kneeland .........2nd round pick
Sam Williams ...2nd round pick

A lot of resources in one unit...........remember the only reason we are looking for another interior Dline was Osa and Mazi are average to poor run defenders. Osa is a top 10 pressure guy. So we would have used 12 to plug the run issue.

Look at the offensive line.

LT 1st round pick
LG 1st round pick and new contract coming
C 3rd rounder
RG 1st round pick (+Martin Dead cap hits)
RT UDFA but on decent 2nd contract

To me, while Martin leaving sucks, guard isn't a position you have to draft in the 1st.
This draft had talent at DT, not just at NT either. Could of gotten Harmon, Nolen(who did fall prob due to red flags), or Grant.
All 3 may bust, be average or be great. However, they all had pretty high ceilings, and IMO the general need at DT was much greater than Guard, IMO.

Osa is a good player, but to me, he wasn't someone that is a cornerstone of the team. Dallas has always rotated heavily, so even if they took someone like Harmon, that would of been a 3 tech here, he still would of been rotated in and/or play along side Osa on passing formations(which is becoming more frequent.

Say, Toia turns out to be solid/good. Nice, however, getting hits in day 3 is rare. Sometimes players fall off the radar or just develop unexpectedly to scouts. But there's that prevailing thought of there's a reason why they fell where they did.

The hype train is rolling for these 7th round picks. Rather see hype than hate, but at the same time, I just hope people aren't counting their eggs before they hatch. The 7th is used to secure player rights instead of fighting for them in UDFA. Every player can have a highlight tape, doesn't mean that's what we'll get. Run pluggers for the most part are extinct unless they can actually move. The zone blocking scheme wiped them out.
If they can't move laterally, then, they can be easily taken out.
For every big 6'3-330lb+ guy, most don't amount to much, cause if they are an one trick pony which is being a plugger they are extremely niche in today's NFL.

 

[J-man]

I for one am excited to see this kid play some NFL snaps. I think they may have found a late rd gem. TBH, I have a feeling this kid could bypass Mazi on the depth chart, fairly quickly.

I am also envisioning a goal line/short yardage run defensive front four as:

Kneeland, Mazi, Toia, Thomas or Turner

 

[MarcusRock]

So Mazi was a 1 and he sucks but Toia was a 7 and he is going to fix our DT problem?

Welcome to CowboysZone. Same way bottom of the roster WR Holden is going to take Dak to the next level, lol. This place needs to market itself like this:

"CowboysZone: for when you've had enough of reality"

 

[CowboysLakerBamaFan]

Another thread about a freaking 7th round pick, where every Zaney Zoner convinces themselves that THIS 7th rounder, despite the history and hit rate of all the other 7th rounders, is THE ONE.

Just like we had a thread for every 6th andn7th rounder last year and thebyear before.... despite the fact that chances are he'll be out of the league in 3 or 4 years.

 

[thunderpimp91]

Welcome to CowboysZone. Same way bottom of the roster WR Holden is going to take Dak to the next level, lol. This place needs to market itself like this:

"CowboysZone: for when you've had enough of reality"

Yep its always talking up fringe players, then back tracking in the offseason with "no one really expected them to do much as a rookie" in order to prop the same players up for their sophomore campaigns.

 

[Pola_pe_a]

So Mazi was a 1 and he sucks but Toia was a 7 and he is going to fix our DT problem?

Toia will be better than Mazi. Mazi was good at underwear olympics but his athleticism doesn't translate at all and he's a poor football player.
Toia is a high motor guy with a very good anchor that plays with a mean streak. He's not going to be a big stats guy but he'll eat up doubles and make some plays here and there.

IMO you can never have too many Polynesians. The culture puts so much emphasis on protecting the family name guys generally work their ***** off.

 

[darthseinfeld]

This pick is exactly why I don't understand why fans were pushing for DT with 12, especially after we signed Osa. It appears Mazi has the other job locked down. We needed a run plugger with two jobs: stop the run and keep LBers clean. So this is my fav pick behind Booker ..........

Smith and Toia essentially play the same position. A gap DT's. Teams usually play two B gap DT's 60%-70% most of the time. Neither Smith nor Toia are B gap players. So you have to find a way to fill 60%-70% of the DT snaps. Thats why people wanted a DT at 12

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

Toia and Justin Rogers are both ~6’-2 340+ lbs.

I hope one, if not both of these dudes workout.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Maybe we'll get lucky....

And Coogs will stop posting?

 

[big dog cowboy]

So Mazi was a 1 and he sucks but Toia was a 7 and he is going to fix our DT problem?

Yeah that is completely wrong way to look at it.