Quick scouting of Dartwan Bush

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Tech varied the look of their fronts. They played some 3-4 looks and primarily a 4-3 look with one or both DE(s) standing up.

In the 3-4 looks, Bush played as a 5-tech (3-4 DE). In the 4-man line, he played as a 3-tech DT. I never saw him as a DE in a true 4-3 DE alignment with a wide outside pass rush.

He played well enough to draw some double-teams; however, he would get blown out on occasion which seemed inevitable considering that he is 6-1, 258 going against Guards that significantly outweigh him.

Like most of the other players that the Cowboys drafted/signed this year, he has a feel for playing with leverage and using his hands. I didn’t see much in the way of Wow plays, but I wouldn’t expect to with him playing the 3 or 5 tech positions.

He tended to play conservatively. There were multiple occasions that he could have chased the QB, but stayed back to prevent the QB from having a running lane.

Summary: It’s almost impossible to get much from watching his college game footage because he was out of position and was not in a defense that went all in to rush the passer. He should be much better than many DE(s) at defending the run because he routinely played against big Guards and was often double-teamed. It’s possible that he would have been drafted if he had played as a true 4-3 DE.

It will be interesting to see him in Marinelli's defense with the opportunity to play as a RDE and being coached to go all out after the QB.
 

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Good stuff xwalker...

While looking around on him, did you happen to see his arm length anywhere?
 

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Don't like the fact that he only weighs 258. Another injury waiting to happen.
 

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Don't like the fact that he only weighs 258. Another injury waiting to happen.
yea, because the extra 2 lbs demarcus ware carries are why he stayed healthy for the vast majority of his career.
 

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yea, because the extra 2 lbs demarcus ware carries are why he stayed healthy for the vast majority of his career.

Once we moved to the 4-3, he was hurt the whole year. Too small for the position. Lee is to small to play the mike as well.
 

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Tech varied the look of their fronts. They played some 3-4 looks and primarily a 4-3 look with one or both DE(s) standing up.

In the 3-4 looks, Bush played as a 5-tech (3-4 DE). In the 4-man line, he played as a 3-tech DT. I never saw him as a DE in a true 4-3 DE alignment with a wide outside pass rush.

He played well enough to draw some double-teams; however, he would get blown out on occasion which seemed inevitable considering that he is 6-1, 258 going against Guards that significantly outweigh him.

Like most of the other players that the Cowboys drafted/signed this year, he has a feel for playing with leverage and using his hands. I didn’t see much in the way of Wow plays, but I wouldn’t expect to with him playing the 3 or 5 tech positions.

He tended to play conservatively. There were multiple occasions that he could have chased the QB, but stayed back to prevent the QB from having a running lane.

Summary: It’s almost impossible to get much from watching his college game footage because he was out of position and was not in a defense that went all in to rush the passer. He should be much better than many DE(s) at defending the run because he routinely played against big Guards and was often double-teamed. It’s possible that he would have been drafted if he had played as a true 4-3 DE.

It will be interesting to see him in Marinelli's defense with the opportunity to play as a RDE and being coached to go all out after the QB.


Undrafted, huh?
 

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Once we moved to the 4-3, he was hurt the whole year. Too small for the position. Lee is to small to play the mike as well.
How do you explain all the nagging injuries the year before then? His weight would have nothing to do with his neck/elbow.

But just for fun...

Osi - 255
Robert Mathis - 245
Robert Quinn - 265
Cliff Avril - 260
Chris Clemons - 254

Were those guys all hurt b/c they were too small?
 

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The majority of REs in a 4-3, specifically this 4-3 are going to be lighter because they're going to be the speed rushers.
 
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