"June 1" rule applies to all cuts/trades

[Fla Cowpoke]

Now that the "Transition Rules for the 2011 League Year" have been published (http://assets.espn.go.com/pdf/2011/0725/nfl_2011_fa_rules01.pdf)), we know that any cuts or trades will be treated just like post-June 1 moves in a normal cap year. This means that all future bonus prorations will be applied to NEXT YEAR'S salary cap instead of this year's cap.

Cutting Marion Barber, therefore, would save $4.75 million of cap room this year (minus the minimum salary of the player with our 52nd-highest cap number). Cutting Terence Newman would save $8 million of cap room this year (minus a minimum). Cutting Leonard Davis would save $6 million of cap room (minus a minimum). Cutting Roy Williams would save $5.11 million of cap room (minus a minimum). Cutting Marc Colombo would save $2.92 million of cap room (minus a minimum).

We'd have dead money in 2012 for any of those guys, of course, but it would be less than their cap number for 2012.

Adam, no matter how you explain, the sal cap gloom and doomers are going to ignore it.

Cutting these 5 guys would save us 26m in room this year. Yes, we would not have those 5 players next year but almost all of them are not considered to be big contributors. If Barber is here next year, he is on the books for about 8m. If he is gone, he only costs about 5.1m against the cap. That is 2.9 million in cap space to use next year. It's the same way with each of these guys.

Would you rather have the 26m on this years cap, plus their dead money next year if we cut them after this year? Or would you rather have the 26m million to play with now and less of a hit from these guys next year?

It isn't that hard. But some people refuse to look at the whole picture.

 

[Fla Cowpoke]

simple math....pushing Barber's dead money to next year would be aroudn 7.5 mill, same with newman. same with davis.

so you just pushed over 20 mill in dead money to 2012. which means your hands are tied......and you haven't mentioned how you plan to replace these players. the most important part people forget about?

who is going to take over for davis? remember Kosier is a FA too.

how about newmann?

we know barber is a goner since we drafted his replacement.

The guys mentioned are not going to be featured players going forward. If you can save money this year, you do it. Those same 5 players are going to have cap hits next year that are bigger than the dead money and will just be progress stoppers for young guys. There is no benefit of keeping them around.

The other thing you are forgetting is that 2-3m in first year cap money on a new contract is a lot of money. You absolutely can get quality replacements with a first year cap hit + the dead money that would be cheaper than just keep the guys here.

 

[AdamJT13]

simple math....pushing Barber's dead money to next year would be aroudn 7.5 mill, same with newman. same with davis.

so you just pushed over 20 mill in dead money to 2012.

Barber's dead money in 2012 would be $4 million. Newman's would be the same. Davis' would be $4,166,670.

That's $12,166,670 in dead money -- much less than $20 million, and much less than the $26,432,670 that they're currently scheduled to count in 2012.

 

[Fla Cowpoke]

Barber's dead money in 2012 would be $4 million. Newman's would be the same. Davis' would be $4,166,670.

That's $12,166,670 in dead money -- much less than $20 million, and much less than the $26,432,670 that they're currently scheduled to count in 2012.

And they are guys that don't have more than a year likely with the team. This isn't rocket science. Adam, can't tell you how much I appreciate the information you provide.