Raiders as trade partners

[RustyBourneHorse]

It would take more than a 2nd for Mack. But I brought that exact idea up in a different thread. I think the addition of those two with our already good players and this up in coming D would really make a difference. But I also think the chances of it happening are the same as zero.

Oh, I agree that the chances of that are nearly nil, but maybe we can get them both as FAs. That'd be brilliant too, but, again, that's nearly nil.

 

[Flamma]

What is it with Khalil Mack anyway? Are they not picking up his 5th year option? Or does he just want a new contract extension? I can understand both sides here. What's good for the team is not always what's good for the player, and vice versa. That appears to be the case.

 

[KingintheNorth]

Once they add Mack along with Donald and ET the Cowboys defense is gonna be stout.

Maybe...I mean, who's going to play linebacker?

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

I predict that, by the end of this tread, the fan geniuses here will be in a lather, talking about a HOF place for Obi and Mack.

 

[Rayman70]

Not so sure about OBI. He's real raw.

 

[AsthmaField]

Obi has crap for instincts and football IQ.

I wanted nothing to do with him prior to that draft and I don’t want him on the Dallas roster now.

It should tell you something if a guy like Gruden is already trying to shed that dead weight.

 

[Avery]

I bet we could get Mack for Rico and Coakley. Maybe throw in a conditional 6th rounder if we need a tipping point.

 

[Rayman70]

I bet we could get Mack for Rico and Coakley. Maybe throw in a conditional 6th rounder if we need a tipping point.

Mack will require a 1st round pick, at least. Nothing less.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

I bet we could get Mack for Rico and Coakley. Maybe throw in a conditional 6th rounder if we need a tipping point.

Well, surely if Rico is everything he's billed up to be, the Raiders will take that deal in a heartbeat.

 

[jterrell]

I'd still be looking at FA market for a Safety if SEA is 100% unwilling to move ET.
Other than that you might see a vet TE draw some interest if cut for being too expensive.

Obi would be fine for a next to nothing draft pick but he's likely not better than Kavon Frazier today for this defense.
But I mean if they want Noah Brown or Kony Ealy then sure.

 

[LatinMind]

onl

Raiders have been dealing away and for players since Gruden took over. We've actually traded with them twice this offseasons, once Switzer for Ward, and another time for Olawale.

No player is safe on the Raiders roster with the new regime in town. Two players that interest me are 2nd year players SAF Obi Melifonwu and 1T Eddie Vanderdose.

Obi had quite a few fans here leading up to last years draft. A poster who I wont name even said that he'd deactivate his account if he wasnt selected in the 1st round. The former Uconn safety has elite mesureables, 6'4(98 percentile), 224 lbs(97%), 4.4 40(95%), 44 inch vert(99%), and 141' broad jump(99%). This along with his adequate play got him selected in the 2nd round. I found his film to be 3rd round worthy.

Obi despite not having injury issues in college has been banged up since entering the league. Playing in 5 games last year and missed the Raider first preseason game with a lower body flare up.

With our void at SAF I would love to pick him up for a pick that is much lower than his original draft position. I think that is possible given Gruden's growing frustarations with him and him falling diwn the depth chart to snag him for a 4th-6th rounder. We currently only have three SAFs that are NFL roster worthy in Heath, Frazier and Woods. So there's a huge need. Raiders have also been open to player for player swaps, but I'm not sure what player that would be from the Cowboys.

I'll edit later on with Vanderdose situation.

only 2 players that i would hope Dallas would trade for...

Amari Cooper..send over a pick and jourdan Lewis

OR

Khalil Mack for a Rd1 in 2019 and one of the Cowboys plethora of OL depth. Possibly even Lewis added instead or part of the deal.

 

[Hennessy_King]

Obi was a player with questionable instincts. That isn't a trait that's good for the Safety position. He could be another Bryon Jones type.

This X 1000

 

[QuincyCarterEra]

Obi has crap for instincts and football IQ.

I wanted nothing to do with him prior to that draft and I don’t want him on the Dallas roster now.

It should tell you something if a guy like Gruden is already trying to shed that dead weight.

Gruden doesnt have a clue qhat he's doing.
He doesnt want king, Jihad Ward, Crabtree, or Mack.

If Gruden doesnt want someone, thats probably someone you should go after.

Plus I've always hated that rational. It doesnt make any sense. All coaches, even the greats, have given up on players that went on to have fantastoc careers.

 

[QuincyCarterEra]

onl

only 2 players that i would hope Dallas would trade for...

Amari Cooper..send over a pick and jourdan Lewis

OR

Khalil Mack for a Rd1 in 2019 and one of the Cowboys plethora of OL depth. Possibly even Lewis added instead or part of the deal.

I'm sorry you feel that way. Neither are going to happen.

And there are so many other players on their team that would help up other than those two.

 

[zerofill]

Gruden gets rid of Mack... they better let the GM take the heat, because Gruden will become hated in Oakland before the season even starts.

 

[Alexander]

Makes sense as much as any other.

That is one thing that is an issue with the Cowboys. We can't just strike up trade talks with just anyone.

Even if player X is available, if Dallas does not have a relationship with that team, it might not matter.

 

[Silver Surfer]

Mack will require a 1st round pick, at least. Nothing less.

I think you missed the sarcasm.

 

[dagreat1_87]

. A poster who I wont name even said that he'd deactivate his account if he wasnt selected in the 1st round.

Who was it?

 

[AsthmaField]

Gruden doesnt have a clue qhat he's doing.
He doesnt want king, Jihad Ward, Crabtree, or Mack.

If Gruden doesnt want someone, thats probably someone you should go after.

Plus I've always hated that rational. It doesnt make any sense. All coaches, even the greats, have given up on players that went on to have fantastoc careers.

Okay, then just focus on my saying Obi sucks... because he’s no good.

And I guarantee that Gruden wants Mack. That’s preposterous to even suggest.

 

[QuincyCarterEra]

Okay, then just focus on my saying Obi sucks... because he’s no good.

And I guarantee that Gruden wants Mack. That’s preposterous to even suggest.

No one knows if he sucks. He hasnt played enough yet to determine that.

But its true... it's been reported they might trade him. Just like they might trade Obi. So saying its preprosterious makes no sense.