Rank the Quarterbacks

[DallasEast]

Joe Montana is better than Unitas, I didnt list it in order of greatness just put down two names that fit the category and put leftovers in that, I will be doing a complete 5 person a category tonight @9:15pm EST.

Hypemachine.

Joe Montana...



and Johnny Unitas...




are "LEFTOVERS"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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[Cowboy Brian]

Joe Montana...



and Johnny Unitas...




are "LEFTOVERS"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3320067&postcount=9 I fixed it. happy.

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http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3320067&postcount=9 I fixed it happy.

 

[DallasEast]

I wanted to see how many times he would end up #25.

I was howling after reading that and scared a co-worker. She's very upset with you right now. :laugh1:

 

[THUMPER]

I was howling after reading that and scared a co-worker. She's very upset with you right now. :laugh1:

Cool!

 

[DallasEast]

http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3320067&postcount=9 I fixed it happy.

You "fixed" it? Was it broke when you first posted it?

My "happiness" is of no consequence. If you're cool with an opinion, that's great, but don't be surprised if Darrelle Revis and I don't see eye-to-eye with yours from time-to-time.

 

[DFWJC]

Dan Marino was more than a game manager. I hate that guys like Steve Young, Trent Dilfer, Eli Manning, Brad Johnson, Big Ben, etc have rings while Marino will always have the 'but' factor.

Marino belongs way up that list. He was pure breed all the way. Most certainly you could give him Denver's (or almost any other) Super Bowl team's roster and he has multiple rings.

 

[Chief]

1. Joe Montana -- I think the most important characteristic of being a great quarterback is an intangible quality that we'll simply call "feel." Montana had this more than anyone. A great feel for the game. Great leader. Ice in his veins. Super Bowls.

2. John Elway -- Incredibly gifted, physically. Great leader. Great arm. The two Super Bowls to finish his career moves him up to No. 2.

3. Roger Staubach -- Everything you want in a quarterback. The best leader of the bunch, great mobility, and a great competitor.

4. Tom Brady -- Very similar to Joe Montana. An amazing feel for the game. This is a trait that scouts have trouble identifying, which explains why Montana went in the third round and Brady in the sixth.

5. Johnny Unitas -- Rivals Roger when it comes to competitiveness.

6. Peyton Manning -- Great all-around skills with more of an intellectual approach to the game.

7. Troy Aikman -- A physical specimen who is probably the most accurate passer on the short-to-intermediate throws. Cool, like Montana. The only reason he's not higher is he sometimes lacked the ability to improvise.

8. Terry Bradshaw -- Came up big in big games, but was surrounded by Hall of Famers. Physical guy with a good arm.

9. Dan Fouts -- Great pure passer.

10. Dan Marino -- Another great passer with an incredible release and accuracy, but something (other than mobility) was missing.

11. Warren Moon -- Put up staggering numbers in his career (in CFL and NFL).

12. Drew Brees -- Underrated player. Like the top guys, has a great feel for playing the position. Now has a Super Bowl under his belt.

13. Bob Griese -- I always thought Brees reminded me of Griese. Drew is a better passer, though, and a better athlete.

14. Brett Favre -- He's down this low because he surely leads all these guys in dumb plays ... and because I've never been a fan.

15. Ken Anderson -- Underrated player.

16. Jim Kelly.

17. Steve Young.

18. Bart Starr.

19. Kurt Warner.

20. Ken Stabler.

21. Len Dawson.

22. Donovan McNabb.

23. Boomer Esiason.

24. Sonny Jurgensen.

 

[THUMPER]

1. Joe Montana -- I think the most important characteristic of being a great quarterback is an intangible quality that we'll simply call "feel." Montana had this more than anyone. A great feel for the game. Great leader. Ice in his veins. Super Bowls.

2. John Elway -- Incredibly gifted, physically. Great leader. Great arm. The two Super Bowls to finish his career moves him up to No. 2.

3. Roger Staubach -- Everything you want in a quarterback. The best leader of the bunch, great mobility, and a great competitor.

4. Tom Brady -- Very similar to Joe Montana. An amazing feel for the game. This is a trait that scouts have trouble identifying, which explains why Montana went in the third round and Brady in the sixth.

5. Johnny Unitas -- Rivals Roger when it comes to competitiveness.

6. Peyton Manning -- Great all-around skills with more of an intellectual approach to the game.

7. Troy Aikman -- A physical specimen who is probably the most accurate passer on the short-to-intermediate throws. Cool, like Montana. The only reason he's not higher is he sometimes lacked the ability to improvise.

8. Terry Bradshaw -- Came up big in big games, but was surrounded by Hall of Famers. Physical guy with a good arm.

9. Dan Fouts -- Great pure passer.

10. Dan Marino -- Another great passer with an incredible release and accuracy, but something (other than mobility) was missing.

11. Warren Moon -- Put up staggering numbers in his career (in CFL and NFL).

12. Drew Brees -- Underrated player. Like the top guys, has a great feel for playing the position. Now has a Super Bowl under his belt.

13. Bob Griese -- I always thought Brees reminded me of Griese. Drew is a better passer, though, and a better athlete.

14. Brett Favre -- He's down this low because he surely leads all these guys in dumb plays ... and because I've never been a fan.

15. Ken Anderson -- Underrated player.

16. Jim Kelly.

17. Steve Young.

18. Bart Starr.

19. Kurt Warner.

20. Ken Stabler.

21. Len Dawson.

22. Donovan McNabb.

23. Boomer Esiason.

24. Sonny Jurgensen.

Good list Chief but you left out Fran Tarkenton...

 

[Nightshade]

Marino belongs way up that list. He was pure breed all the way. Most certainly you could give him Denver's (or almost any other) Super Bowl team's roster and he has multiple rings.

Marino had good teams around him. He just didn't get that football requires that you run the ball sometimes. Like TO. "I'm all you need to win" He beat himself and his teams with that attitude more than any other QB on this list.

That's why he's not up there with me. Favre is down on my list because of similar beat yourself with your arrogance issues.

When Elway came into the league he figured his arm could win it all too. He's up there for me because he learned how to play football and won 2 rings letting guys like Terrell Davis help him win.

But Roger beats them all.

 

[DallasEast]

Good list Chief but you left out Fran Tarkenton...

Chief! First, he was denied Super Bowl victories. Now, he didn't even make your list! Shame. Shame on you. :nono: :

 

[Nightshade]

I wanted to see how many times he would end up #25.

Seriously, he is one of the higher ranked QBs in terms of Passer Rating and wins. Basically, his numbers qualify him for the list and I wanted 25 guys. Jurgensen never won anything either but he's in the HoF.

Besides, it was either him or Phil Simms.

I figured there had to be a reason for the Flabb man's inclusion.

 

[DFWJC]

When Elway came into the league he figured his arm could win it all too. He's up there for me because he learned how to play football and won 2 rings letting guys like Terrell Davis help him win.

Elway "learned" because he had Terrell Davis. Sub out Marino for Elway and you get the exact same results....imo.


As for Roger and Troy....well, this is our site so we're allowed to rate our guys much much higher than all the other football fans in the world. They were both excellent.

FWIW, I think most unbiased lists would have Unitas and Montana at the top. But it's not as much fun if we can't plug our own guys.

 

[Chief]

Good list Chief but you left out Fran Tarkenton...

He's so short, I missed him.

I had him in there, then went to cut and past. Forgot to paste I guess.

He would be around 21-22.

 

[jterrell]

When Elway came into the league he figured his arm could win it all too. He's up there for me because he learned how to play football and won 2 rings letting guys like Terrell Davis help him win.
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Elway "learned" because he had Terrell Davis. Sub out Marino for Elway and you get the exact same results....imo.

Marino audibled out to passing plays when his team was up 3 with minutes left then they'd punt and go on to lose.

The offense was pass heavy but Marino just ran it the same way like Mike Leach without ever getting his head around the running game. This is why Marino and Jimmy Johnson had wars. Like at Leach's Texas Tech, passing stats get inflated if you pass all the time and ignore the running game.

Marino had an amazing release and great arm but he didn't always play the style of heady ball PManning/Brady and others have who won titles.

 

[catch28]

This is just my opinion.

1. Joe Montana
2. John Elway
3. Johnny Unitas
4. Dan Marino
5. Troy Aikman (just to accurate to be any lower)
6. Peyton Manning
7. Brett Farve
8. Tom Brady
9. Fran Tarkenton
10. Steve Young
11. Roger Staubach (just think if he hadnt served his country)
12. Warren Moon
13. Kurt Warner
14. Terry Bradshaw
15. Kenny Stabler

After 15 it justnt matter ya know?

 

[jackrussell]

In my opinion, the Steelers bailed out Bradshaw on way too many occasions. I would definitely rank Marino over C-A-T man.

So who spotted you the C?

 

[DallasEast]

So who spotted you the C?

 

[CowboyMike]

1. Peyton Manning - I think he is the best of all time.
2. John Elway
3. Tom Brady - His last four years ruined my original opinion of him. I liked the Brady that won with lesser players and no real superstar receivers. He doesn't make his team better anymore. Peyton has.
4. Jim Kelly - Maybe my all time favorite. I admired his toughness and leadership, and going to four straight Super Bowls means something. He got his team in position to win one and if that field goal had been good, we'd see him in a different light.
5. Roger Staubach - Adjusted in todays game, he's probably be one of the most prolific passers in the game. His efficiency was astounding.
6. Terry Bradshaw - Gotta give him props for winning four super bowls, but his team was better than he was.
7. Troy Aikman
8. Johnny Unitas
9. Steve Young
10. Kurt Warner - Took two different teams to the Super Bowl and the consummate professional and class act.
11. Joe Montana - Overrated. He wouldn't have worked in any other system and he was successful because the West Coast was so innovative in his time.
12. Warren Moon - Underrated
13. Kenny Stabler
14. Dan Marino - Higher if he had won a Super Bowl.
15. Dan Fouts - Same here.
16. Boomer Esiason
17. Ken Anderson
18. Len Dawson
19. Bob Griese
20. Bart Starr
21. Fran Tarkenton
22. Drew Brees - Will move higher on the list the more his career progresses.
23. Sonny Jurgensen
24. Brett Favre - Didn't do anything without Holmgren. Overrated and stubborn.
25. Phil Simms - I can't in all good conscience include Donovan McNabb on this list, so Simms gets his slot because he won a Super Bowl.

 

[THUMPER]

4. Jim Kelly - Maybe my all time favorite. I admired his toughness and leadership, and going to four straight Super Bowls means something. He got his team in position to win one and if that field goal had been good, we'd see him in a different light.

I always thought Jim Kelly was underrated by most fans but he was a great QB. He was 26 when he came into the NFL because he had played in the USFL for a couple of years and was one of the best players in that league.

Here's a blurb on his USFL days:

The Buffalo Bills selected Kelly in the first round of the 1983 NFL Draft, but because of the Bills poor attendance and the cold weather, he instead signed with the Houston Gamblers of the rival United States Football League.

In two seasons in Houston, running coach Mouse Davis' run-and-shoot offense, he threw for 9,842 yards and 83 touchdowns, completing 63% with an average of 8.53 yards per attempt with 45 interceptions. He was the USFL MVP in 1984, when he set a league record with 5,219 yards passing and 44 TD passes.

Kelly's USFL records eclipsed those of fellow league quarterbacks Doug Williams and Steve Young. When the Houston Gamblers folded, Kelly went to the New Jersey Generals and was slated as their starting quarterback. Kelly also appeared on a cover of Sports Illustrated while holding a Generals' helmet, but the league collapsed before he ever saw a snap with the Generals.

Kelly was a tough guy and a lot of fun to watch.

 

[mmohican29]

1) Montana- the most clutch QB in the history of the league
2) Elway- great arm, great athleticism, great player, 2x Super Bowl Champion
3) Unitas- before his time athlete- legend who is probably the best "passer" ever
4) Manning- most prepared player in history, laser rocket arm.
5) Young- the best of the mobile QB's. Accurate and cold blooded.
6) Marino- cannon arm and whip release became the standard of QB ability
7) Staubach- fearless, determined and classy: the definitive NFL hero of the 70's
8)Brady- clutch technician who relishes the moment, win or lose.
9) Aikman- A stone cold winner, big time arm and the most accur ate QB ever.
10) Tarkenton- gutsy scrambler with an arm that could beat you as well