Rank the second tier DTs

[Ring Leader]

Seems like the second tier DTs are mocked all over the place. After the top tier big boys (Brown & Kinlaw) how would you rank the next top 5?

1- Blacklock
2- Gallimore
3- Madubuike
4- Raekwon Davis
5- Elliott
?- Other

 

[morasp]

Blacklock 6.39
Elliot 6.36
Davis 6.35
Madubuike 6.3
Gallimore 6.0

Some people have proposed Epenesa and Davidson moving inside.
Epenesa 6.38
Davidson 6.35

 

[KingintheNorth]

Blacklock is a bowling ball with knives.

Good player.

Madubuike shows some of the athletic flashes that this team mistakenly thought Trysten Hill would.

 

[ChuckA1]

Will someone please explain to me what the difference in production is between a DT ranked at 6.39 vs 6.0? Thanks in advance.

 

[Verdammung]

Of the five listed.

1. Gallimore
2. Blacklock
3. Elliott
4. Madubuike
5. Davis

 

[morasp]

Will someone please explain to me what the difference in production is between a DT ranked at 6.39 vs 6.0? Thanks in advance.

6.39 will be a starter within first two seasons
6.0 developmental traits based prospect
NFL.com was harder on Gallimore that some scouts. They also had Hill graded lower than where we took him last year.
Overview
Flash talent whose tape has moments but fails to fully deliver. Gallimore goes hard from snap to whistle with secondary effort that brings decent production, but his NFL potential may be limited by a lack of leverage and contact balance. Oklahoma had him playing in the gaps but he might be more effective improving his hands and learning to two-gap. Unless he turns the flashes into a finished product, his future may be as a rotation tackle in an even front.

Weaknesses

• Plays way too tall
• Allows blockers to play under his pads
• Unable to defend and anchor against down blocks
• Below-average contact balance
• Lacks desired coordination and body control
• Unable to skinny up into the gaps
• Ends up on the ground too often
• Inconsistent hands to counter and shed blocks
• Rigid movement inside pocket limits sacks success
• Fails to create momentum despite initial quickness and pop

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/neville-gallimore?id=32194741-4c63-6611-9d1e-0291de0dd367

 

[kiheikiwi]

Kinda depends if they want a 3-tech or a 1-tech. With McCoy signed for 3 years (Probably means 2) and we don't know about Poe yet. Will be interesting if they do draft DT's later. Only a miracle Kinlaw makes it to us, and they would have to draft him if he did.
Davon Hamilton is a 3rd. rounder. Leki Fotu a 4th rounder and Benito Jones a 5th rounder at 1 -tech. I'd take any of those 3 !
All the 3-tech's after Kinlaw seem a little light in the britches, but if we pick one later say 4th round and on - I'd be happy just to grab someone to be a backup incase Hill does not progress ….

 

[Vegas_Cowboy]

Of the five listed.

1. Gallimore
2. Blacklock
3. Elliott
4. Madubuike
5. Davis

This.

 

[Hardline]

I've watched a ton of Big 12 football and can say Gallimore and Blacklock will be very solid pros and will play close or out preform the first tier guys

 

[DanA]

I think Tomsula is going to want us to play a multiple front that switches between playing a 1-gap and 2-gap scheme. Given we already have Hill whose a one gap pass rushing 3T, I think that rules out Maduibuke or Blacklock unless exceptional value. Elliott, Davis and Hamilton are better day 3 fits..

 

[KingintheNorth]

6.39 will be a starter within first two seasons
6.0 developmental traits based prospect
NFL.com was harder on Gallimore that some scouts. They also had Hill graded lower than where we took him last year.
Overview
Flash talent whose tape has moments but fails to fully deliver. Gallimore goes hard from snap to whistle with secondary effort that brings decent production, but his NFL potential may be limited by a lack of leverage and contact balance. Oklahoma had him playing in the gaps but he might be more effective improving his hands and learning to two-gap. Unless he turns the flashes into a finished product, his future may be as a rotation tackle in an even front.

Weaknesses

• Plays way too tall
• Allows blockers to play under his pads
• Unable to defend and anchor against down blocks
• Below-average contact balance
• Lacks desired coordination and body control
• Unable to skinny up into the gaps
• Ends up on the ground too often
• Inconsistent hands to counter and shed blocks
• Rigid movement inside pocket limits sacks success
• Fails to create momentum despite initial quickness and pop

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/neville-gallimore?id=32194741-4c63-6611-9d1e-0291de0dd367

Coaching d lineman was my first college job. These are two qualities I greatly dislike in young players:

• Plays way too tall
• Ends up on the ground too often

Usually a sign of undisciplined players and lack of conditioning. Tired players stand straight up and let the o-linemen get inside them and move them out of their gaps. Playing tall and getting thrown to the ground means lazy, no strength or power in their base, or both.

 

[morasp]

Coaching d lineman was my first college job. These are two qualities I greatly dislike in young players:

• Plays way too tall
• Ends up on the ground too often

Usually a sign of undisciplined players and lack of condition. Tired players stand straight up and let the of linemen get inside them and move them out of their gaps. Playing tall and getting thrown to the ground means lazy, no strength or power in their base, or both.

Thanks for the insight based on experience.

 

[cowboyec]

Davis
Blacklock
Gallimore
Madubuike
Elliott
Hamilton
Lawrence
Raequan Williams
Benito Jones
Bravion Roy
McTelvin Agim
Broderick Washington