Ranking all 32 NFL teams in terms of quarterback desperation

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The Giants also drafted Ryan Nassib in 2013 so they have a young backup waiting in the wings.

That probably figured some into the Giants ranking but Nassib has only attempted 5 regular season passes and was sacked on 2 of those attempts. He did have a pretty high rating coming out of college but at this point he would be a long shot to be the future of the Giants when Eli's days are done. Having a second round pick as your backup does give an organization some stability if their starter goes down. The fact the Cowboys have Brandon Weeden as their backup would add some desperation when you look at his starting history in Cleveland and how dreadful he looked in his only start with the Cowboys.
 
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This is NOT ranking the QBs.

All this is measuring for this upcoming draft and offseason, who is most desperate to find help.
So all the rookies who started and didn't totally suck (Carr, Bridgewater, Bortles) will get another year for sure. After that, all bets are off.

I think he has Mr no TD passes all year to a WR, Alex Smith, way too high.
Stafford, though not great, is too low if were talking this offseason. He's their QB....IMO.
 

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I'd rather draft his replacement in the 2016 draft honestly...

Wish it would be that easy to find his replacement don't think it will be. It will likely take a high draft pick to replace Romo and the Cowboys won't be using a high pick on a QB until they have to.
 

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Kelly would be crazy to do whatever it takes to get Marriotta some don't even have him as the top rated QB. I'm not saying Foles is the answer in Philly but he did lead them to the playoffs in 2013 and had Philly sitting at 6-2 until he got injured. They certainly aren't "desperate" for a QB and it would be a desperate move to fork over current and future draft picks for a QB who some aren't that high on. I've read where Marriotta is not a great pocket passer, fumbles the ball a lot, has some durability issues and rarely threw into tight windows plus he played in a college system not in a pro style offense. I wouldn't give up anything to move up for a QB who has some of the negatives he has. Jimmy drafted his college QB Steve Walsh and if he was all the Cowboys had at QB Jimmy and Walsh may have left Dallas together. If Kelly wants to get on the hottest seat imaginable give up the farm for his college QB and have it not work out.

The reason I put the Eagles, Kelly in particular, as desperate for a QB is because Foles is not his ideal QB for his offense. Marriotta obviously is. Marriotta not fitting in to most NFL offenses is irrelevant since Philly runs the Oregon offense. Kelly is desperate in the sense that he needs an ideal QB and this is the one in his eyes. Remember, Kelly has GM powers as well-----player acquisition is not a problem. If Kelly is going to be unsuccessful in the NFL, it will be with his style of play, not another style he is not used to. The future is now for him.
 

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Because one QB has never missed a game due to injury and the other is coming off multiple season ending injuries and back surgery? Just a guess.

They are talking about the need to replace the QB, so from that stance a 92 is just as good as a 113, the 'need to replace' threshold is a lot lower than a 92. Then you factor in injuries and it's not really close, I'm surprised they have the Giants so close to the middle. Eli's been a true iron man his entire career. The fact that he's not as good a QB as Romo doesn't really play into this discussion, because the odds are extremely good that if they replaced Eli they wouldn't get anyone as good as he is - much less someone as good as Romo.

Good argument. Depends on how you look. Desperation is the key question. I'd say NYG are a tad bit more 'desperate' to replace Eli but 'desperate' isn't the correct word for either team. Desperate is more sensational but I think who needs a QB more to compete would be a better subject. JMO.
 

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Really, we are behind the Giants?

Age and health more than anything. If Eli and Romo were the same age and the same health status, the Cowboys would be higher on the board. In fact, I'd put them at 29.
 

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They have never moved way up in the draft to get any player - in the first round.

Taking into account what prior Eagles regimes did during the draft isn't accurate in relation to what this group might do on draft day.

Actually, with Kelly now buying the groceries, looking at any year prior to now is ill advised and will indicate very little.

If he fell to a spot where the Eagles would only give up a number 1 and 2 then fine they might trade.

I do wholeheartedly agree with you that Philly won't go all the way up to get Mariota in the top 5 picks and I also agree that if he falls to a point that is within range, there would be a good chance of Philly moving up to get him. Within range, in my estimation, would be like you said... where Philly could make the trade for this year's first and second round picks.
 

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Wish we had our Garoppolo waiting in the wings. I guess this season or next season we'll do that, but we really have nothing behind us right now. Slim pickings in the draft, but plenty of opportunity to improve that QB2 position from somewhere in VFA.
 

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Wish we had our Garoppolo waiting in the wings. I guess this season or next season we'll do that, but we really have nothing behind us right now. Slim pickings in the draft, but plenty of opportunity to improve that QB2 position from somewhere in VFA.

Yeah.
New England had been loading up on young defensive talent for 2-3 straight drafts--they have drafted 5-6 starters and 2-3 backups for defense since 2012. Plus they already had a contending team on top of that.
So after they spent yet another 1st rounder on defense (Easly) , they were in pretty good shape to take Garoppolo at the end of the 2nd round. It worked out well for them.
 

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No faith in Vaughn?

He was an undrafted free agent project who struggled in the Cowboys final preseason game. Hard to have any faith in him until he takes some regular season snaps and proves he can play at the NFL level. He's battling some long odds we'll have to see this summer if the Cowboys see enough progress to keep him around.
 

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No faith in Vaughn?

Some, I guess. I didn't like him in preseason as much as I liked Tanney, for instance. But I also know that what coaches and scouts look at in those early stages of pro-QB development are not the same things fans look for in the games. Just like a sophisticated soup might not taste as good as a can of chili when it's only been on the stove for 10 minutes, if that makes any sense as an analogy. So...that early game experience for a guy in development can probably be deceiving.

I basically consider that QB3 spot to be a non-entity, though. If he's elevated to the backup role, then we'll know we've got something. And probably it'd be something we're pretty excited about, frankly. Until then, though, all we know is they like him enough to create a roster spot for him and to protect that spot all season when we needed OTs and LBs in a playoff push. That tells you something, but not a lot.

I do like his size and what little I've seen of his temperament/public persona. But, yeah, it's not the same thing as having a second round guy with more college skins on the wall on your bench.
 

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The reason I put the Eagles, Kelly in particular, as desperate for a QB is because Foles is not his ideal QB for his offense. Marriotta obviously is. Marriotta not fitting in to most NFL offenses is irrelevant since Philly runs the Oregon offense. Kelly is desperate in the sense that he needs an ideal QB and this is the one in his eyes. Remember, Kelly has GM powers as well-----player acquisition is not a problem. If Kelly is going to be unsuccessful in the NFL, it will be with his style of play, not another style he is not used to. The future is now for him.

Foles may not be the ideal QB for his offense but as I mentioned he did lead Philly to the playoffs in 2013 with one of the highest passer ratings ever and had them at 6-2 prior to his injury. He didn't look as good in 2014 it appears defenses have caught up with him some and with Chip Kelly's offense. Foles had 13 picks in only 8 games and his passer rating took a major dip from 2013. Marriotta not fitting into most offenses is relevant because who's to say Kelly's offense will withstand the test of time in the NFL. I would be very nervous giving up the farm to trade up for a QB that fits a particular system that you don't see NFL teams run. Philly ranked #2 in total offense in 2013 and dropped to #5 in 2014 and it doesn't take long for NFL defenses to figure out an offensive scheme. The run and shoot offense threw NFL defenses off early on but eventually they caught up to it. Andre Ware was the master of the run and shoot in college putting up some crazy numbers at Houston and the Lions who drafted him ran that offense but it didn't work out and Ware only lasted 4 years in the NFL.

If Kelly drafts Marriotta and is forced to make adjustments to the offense as defenses continue to catch up to it Marriotta may not be able to adjust which could eventually spell the end for Kelly. His future in Philly would be in the hands of Marriotta. If Kelly gets the boot Philly's next head coach would be stuck trying to transform Mariotta into a more traditional drop back NFL QB which would set the franchise back if he can't adjust forcing them to go after another QB. Some have compared Mariotta with Kaepernick which is another thing that would make me a little nervous about drafting him because Kap has not developed into a great NFL passer and he appears to be regressing. Defenses have caught up to him he took 52 sacks in 2014 which was 13 more than his previous season. His int's went up and his TD passes went down.

With the concerns about Marriotta's durability not sure he's going to last very long if he's looking to take off all the time. From everything I've heard this is a weak QB crop and no one seems real excited about any of them. Another thing that would concern me about drafting Marriotta is these Heisman winning QB's rarely pan out in the NFL. There's only been 2 Heisman winning QB's that have won SB's Staubach and Jim Plunkett. Something about winning the Heisman seems to put the hex on these QB's and they don't perform nearly to the level in the NFL that they did in college. The NFL is a different game with a huge jump in talent from college to the pro's and most of these Heisman winning QB's fit a system and their skill sets don't seem to translate very well to the NFL game.
 

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Wish we had our Garoppolo waiting in the wings. I guess this season or next season we'll do that, but we really have nothing behind us right now. Slim pickings in the draft, but plenty of opportunity to improve that QB2 position from somewhere in VFA.

For awhile G.Bay was drafting QB's like New E. is......giving them a few years on the bench and then trading them...........seems to be a way to fleece other teams in the league, as none ever panned out for the value those 2 teams received in return. G.Bay sent a kid to Seattle, NE send one to the Cheifs and now Houston, The one G.Bay kept-----they kept (Rogers)
 

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This is NOT ranking the QBs.

All this is measuring for this upcoming draft and offseason, who is most desperate to find help.
So all the rookies who started and didn't totally suck (Carr, Bridgewater, Bortles) will get another year for sure. After that, all bets are off.

I think he has Mr no TD passes all year to a WR, Alex Smith, way too high.

Stafford, though not great, is too low if were talking this offseason. He's their QB....IMO.

That was the first thing that jumped out at me. He is an uninspiring QB.
 
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