Raphael Vela's Cites Cowboy Needs in Draft

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Just checked out latest Vela's blog article. He's got a pretty decent assessment of Cowboy needs on both sides of the ball. There were some surprises:
1. Vela stated we needed somebody to challenge Pat Watkins cause his play just as shaky this year as it was in his rookie year. Does that mean he doesn't see FS Courtney Brown as the answer?
2. Stated that OG/C Cory Proctor was overmatched while subbing at Center for the injuried Andre Gurode. I remember Albert Breer in his analysis of Proctor's performance said Proctor wasn't able to clear out the pocket for Romo like Gurode always did.
3. Reiterated need for another FB to go with Deon Anderson or we might draft another TE/FB type to help out.

So while we all know CB, RB & WR are priority needs, it seems there also need at OG/C, FB/TE, FS as well as at SS, DT, ILB, etc. Looks like we'll need all 8 of our picks (maybe more) to get a lot of help. On the other hand, we need remember that about 9 guys on the roster in 07 are already gone & questions/concern re Ayodele, Glenn, Berger.

Defense
Absolute needs (2)
The team lost its 3rd and 4th corners, when Jacques Reeves and Nate Jones left in free agency. It’s a fair assumption that one of the two first rounders, or at the very least one of the three picks in the first two rounds will go for a young corner.
The need for two corners has me convinced we have not heard the last of the Pacman Jones rumors.
Like to have (3)
1. A safety to groom as Roy Williams‘ replacement; at the very least, somebody to challenge Pat Watkins, who was every bit as shaky last year as he was as a rookie.
2. OLB — Dallas has Demarcus Ware, Greg Ellis and Anthony Spencer, but Ellis is long in the tooth. If the Cowboys can find a player like Brent Hawkins, a 5th round tweener who has turned into an effective situational rusher for Jacksonville, they’ll add him. You can never have enough pass rushers.
3. NT — Does Marcus Spears have a future on the team? Did Jay Ratliff get the big money to move to DE? Jason Ferguson was shipped to Miami, so a big 325 lb. plugger would be welcome.
Offense
Absolute needs (2)
Running back — Marion Barber is the only dependable RB on the roster at this moment. Tyson Thompson has moved on, as has Julius Jones.
Wide receiver — Terrell Owens isn’t getting any younger. Terry Glenn’s knee is a major question mark. Jerry Jones has spoken often of finding T.O. a partner in crime, preferably a veteran. Regardless, the Cowboys need a quality young wideout.
Like to have (3)
Center — Cory Proctor was overmatched when he subbed for an injured Andre Gurode last December.
Fullback/tight end — Deon Anderson is the only option at fullback at the moment. That’s too iffy for a team that wants a power running attack. In these fullback poor days a tight end might be drafted to fill this need.
Quarterback — Brad Johnson isn’t getting any younger. I’ll bet the Cowboys won’t give up on a Matt Moore this year — if they’re lucky enough to land another one.
That’s a lot of needs for a top seed. I don’t expect Dallas to do any trade ups in round one. They don’t have enough picks to fill every wish.
 

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sago1;2034489 said:
1. A safety to ... to challenge Pat Watkins, who was every bit as shaky last year as he was as a rookie.
Uhhh...what?
 

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theogt;2034496 said:
Uhhh...what?
There's a couple of those. I think its pretty obvious Ratliff is our starting NT and the staff has been pretty high on both Procter and Berger, though I understand fans not being impressed and wouldn't mind a late round flier on a center since thats a position where you can usually find good ones late.
 

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FuzzyLumpkins;2034506 said:
Lets see how many plays did Watkins make last year. Oh yeah... NONE.

there's a differnce between making plays and showing up the SC top 10.
 

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FuzzyLumpkins;2034506 said:
Lets see how many plays did Watkins make last year. Oh yeah... NONE.
3 passes defended, 1 INT, and he did have that blocked FG return. Not great, but it is something.

But regardless of "making plays" the real story is he wasn't targeted much and when he was he didn't give up huge plays, unlike his rookie season when he both was targeted often and gave up huge plays.

A free safety that you don't notice is in the game is a GOOD THING.
 

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I think Hamlin is the replacement for Williams, probably next year. Perhaps it will be Henry who plays FS. He has played the position before, obviously has the coverage skills and size.

A veteran WR is a must either this year or next.

RB's are there to be had in this draft and often in free agency. Easy position to pick players up.

Jones solves some problems for Dallas in their nickel at least and probably in the return game.

The rest of the concerns can be plugged in free agency after june 1st or in the draft.
 

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mmillman;2034521 said:
I think Hamlin is the replacement for Williams, probably next year. Perhaps it will be Henry who plays FS. He has played the position before, obviously has the coverage skills and size.

There is the problem with paying Hamlin who was solid last year. Not spectacular. He made the Pro Bowl because Dallas is Dallas and had the best year ever. They were on TV all but one or two games and that's outside of DirecTV.

A veteran WR is a must either this year or next.

We don't need a veteran WR that much next year. Yeah we can use one but the rookie WR(s) we pick this year won't be rookies next year. We need a veteran WR this year to allow the rookies and other to learn.

RB's are there to be had in this draft and often in free agency. Easy position to pick players up.

Outside the top 5-6 RBs it falls off. Yeah, the fall off is not as great as usual and the draft is deep. But elite RBs don't fall off logs. Yes, you can find a big time RB in the lower rounds. But for every Terrell Davis and Brian Westbrook there are multiple high draft picks doing well. There are only so many elite, good, and solid players each year.

Jones solves some problems for Dallas in their nickel at least and probably in the return game.

If we get Pacman we automatically have the first three CB positions covered by terrific players. So yeah the draft gives us another body to solve the riddle of CB.

The rest of the concerns can be plugged in free agency after june 1st or in the draft.

Those are critical picks. It's always gravy to find a player off the shelf and plug him back in for another year or three.
 

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sago1;2034489 said:

2. Stated that OG/C Cory Proctor was overmatched while subbing at Center for the injuried Andre Gurode. I remember Albert Breer in his analysis of Proctor's performance said Proctor wasn't able to clear out the pocket for Romo like Gurode always did.


So Proctor isn't as good as our pro bowl center? There's a shocker.
 

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sago1;2034489 said:
So while we all know CB, RB & WR are priority needs, it seems there also need at OG/C, FB/TE, FS as well as at SS, DT, ILB, etc. Looks like we'll need all 8 of our picks (maybe more) to get a lot of help.
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We don't have enough picks to really address all the holes. And there are holes.

We need more picks to really deal with the missing pieces we have now.

I see several trades from us in this draft to get more picks in the 2-4th rds.

I also wouldn't rule out our #1 pick for 2009 coming into play to just go ahead and address what we need in 2008.

If we essentially could trade our #1 from 2009 for a late rd. #1 or early 2nd rd. pick for this year..I'd do it.

Our #1 next year shouldn't be anything more than a very late round #1 next year if we play well in 2008...something like a 30-32nd. pick.

Let it go and move up and get into the top 1/3 of the 2nd. rd. and let's go shopping.

If we could come up with 4 picks in the 1st 62 picks, we should get the players we need.

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theogt;2034514 said:
3 passes defended, 1 INT, and he did have that blocked FG return. Not great, but it is something.

But regardless of "making plays" the real story is he wasn't targeted much and when he was he didn't give up huge plays, unlike his rookie season when he both was targeted often and gave up huge plays.

A free safety that you don't notice is in the game is a GOOD THING.


And that's more plays than freaking Davis ever made as the starting FS.

Vela has this "hate" thing with Watkins, like what's his name here on the board does with Henry.
 

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Redball Express;2034627 said:
We don't have enough picks to really address all the holes. And there are holes.

We need more picks to really deal with the missing pieces we have now.

I see several trades from us in this draft to get more picks in the 2-4th rds.

I also wouldn't rule out our #1 pick for 2009 coming into play to just go ahead and address what we need in 2008.

If we essentially could trade our #1 from 2009 for a late rd. #1 or early 2nd rd. pick for this year..I'd do it.

Our #1 next year shouldn't be anything more than a very late round #1 next year if we play well in 2008...something like a 30-32nd. pick.

Let it go and move up and get into the top 1/3 of the 2nd. rd. and let's go shopping.

If we could come up with 4 picks in the 1st 62 picks, we should get the players we need.

:starspin RedBall ExPress :starspin



Huh?

Trading next year's picks in order to fill holes this year?



I don't think so.

That's not how you build a consistent winner.

Sure you may fill an extra hole this year-- but what about next year's holes?

And there will be holes, there always are.

Maybe we're just going to have to draft smarter and pick up an undrafted player or two in order to help fill those holes this year?
 

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I still don't understand why fullback is such a need. They obviously like the one they have on the roster. Dallas is also 3 deep at TE with quality players - maybe the deepest they have ever been at that position. Are they going to carry 2 fullbacks and 3 tight ends?

And since when was Dallas moving to a power running attack? They threw the ball around like gangbusters last year and last I checked the offensive coordinator is coming back.
 

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Redball Express;2034627 said:
We don't have enough picks to really address all the holes. And there are holes.

We need more picks to really deal with the missing pieces we have now.

I see several trades from us in this draft to get more picks in the 2-4th rds.

I also wouldn't rule out our #1 pick for 2009 coming into play to just go ahead and address what we need in 2008.

If we essentially could trade our #1 from 2009 for a late rd. #1 or early 2nd rd. pick for this year..I'd do it.

Our #1 next year shouldn't be anything more than a very late round #1 next year if we play well in 2008...something like a 30-32nd. pick.

Let it go and move up and get into the top 1/3 of the 2nd. rd. and let's go shopping.

If we could come up with 4 picks in the 1st 62 picks, we should get the players we need.

:starspin RedBall ExPress :starspin

No way, Jose. As Michael has pointed out you need to be careful about mortgaging the future. Yes, this and probably the next year or even two are special. Maybe even more years. We do have a window of opportunity for a SB. But we are not Washington. You can sell a little of the future for the now but be careful. If we can pick up Pacman and a vet WR we have taken giant strides to fill holes. I am not too interested in rookies coming in and playing right away. But sometimes they work well enough. TNew did a good job his first year. The Giants won a SB with Ross at a corner.

MichaelWinicki;2034629 said:
Huh?

Trading next year's picks in order to fill holes this year?



I don't think so.

That's not how you build a consistent winner.

Sure you may fill an extra hole this year-- but what about next year's holes?

And there will be holes, there always are.

Maybe we're just going to have to draft smarter and pick up an undrafted player or two in order to help fill those holes this year?

I second that emotion.

I have no problem trading one of our ones this year to a team like Atl for their number one next year plus a two or three this year. This is the kind of trade I expect we could make this year if there are no players we want at 22 and/or28.
 
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