Rashan Gary contract

[Hawkeye0202]

A couple of things I'm just noticing..........

**.$16M gauranteed this year
** Is he a DE or DT?
** Front four = EZ, Clark, QW, and Gary
$16M this season guarantees Gary's starting spot at DE. So, where does Bailey or Bain fit this season ( five-man front), especially being drafted at 12. My point is, Jerry may NOT be as high on drafting an Edge as we are being led to believe. After all, Stephen did say LB and secondary were their priorities.

$16M this season is a lot of money..........


https://thelandryhat.com/packers-gm...las-cowboys-bold-rashan-gary-trade-in-big-way


Packers GM validates the Cowboys' bold Rashan Gary trade in a big way


His contract

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/player/_/id/29047/rashan-gary

 

[12+88=7]

I thought when Parker was introduced they said EZ was going to be an OLB.

I thought at the time that this wouldn't be a good idea having EZ learn a new position when he had a good first year at DE. It would be starting at square one again.

 

[darthseinfeld]

A couple of things I'm just noticing..........

**.$16M gauranteed this year
** Is he a DE or DT?
** Front four = EZ, Clark, QW, and Gary
$16M this season guarantees Gary's starting spot at DE. So, where does Bailey or Bain fit this season ( five-man front), especially being drafted at 12. My point is, Jerry may NOT be as high on drafting an Edge as we are being led to believe. After all, Stephen did say LB and secondary were their priorities.

$16M this season is a lot of money..........


https://thelandryhat.com/packers-gm...las-cowboys-bold-rashan-gary-trade-in-big-way


Packers GM validates the Cowboys' bold Rashan Gary trade in a big way


His contract

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/player/_/id/29047/rashan-gary

Even with Gary and Ezeiruaku there is about 600 snaps for another edge rusher

 

[Aven8]

I thought when Parker was introduced they said EZ was going to be an OLB.

I thought at the time that this wouldn't be a good idea having EZ learn a new position when he had a good first year at DE. It would be starting at square one again.

He is a OLB now. And he’s going to flourish. He’s not big enough to be a 43 DE.

 

[Jarntt]

He is a OLB now. And he’s going to flourish. He’s not big enough to be a 43 DE.

In the bolded, you mean 3-4?


As previously stated by others he is an OLBer in our base 3-4.
Like most teams we will be in the nickel more than half the time and in the nickel we will mostly have a 4-man front and he will be a DE in those formations

But with all of the above being said we know that Parker will have multiple fronts and we don't know what he will do in those situations. Do we draft a pass rusher? Does he try to get all 3 of that draft pick, Gary and EZ on the field which moves Gary down inside in a 4 man DL. Do we go with some 5-man fronts? Impossible to cover all that may happen, but I think we all agree that based on the current roster and that's all we can do today, it's OLBer in the base defense and DE in the most common nickel formation

 

[Hawkeye0202]

Even with Gary and Ezeiruaku there is about 600 snaps for another edge rusher

You lost me.......are you saying a full-time edge? If so, a five-man front?

 

[Jarntt]

You lost me.......are you saying a full-time edge? If so, a five-man front?

The Edges in the 3-4 are not the DEs, they are the OLBers

 

[darthseinfeld]

You lost me.......are you saying a full-time edge? If so, a five-man front?

No. Starters only play 60%-70% of the snaps. So there are alot of snaps left. 500-600 easily

Gary played 53%, 59% and 62% of defensive snaps the last three seasons

 

[Aven8]

In the bolded, you mean 3-4?


As previously stated by others he is an OLBer in our base 3-4.
Like most teams we will be in the nickel more than half the time and in the nickel we will mostly have a 4-man front and he will be a DE in those formations

But with all of the above being said we know that Parker will have multiple fronts and we don't know what he will do in those situations. Do we draft a pass rusher? Does he try to get all 3 of that draft pick, Gary and EZ on the field which moves Gary down inside in a 4 man DL. Do we go with some 5-man fronts? Impossible to cover all that may happen, but I think we all agree that based on the current roster and that's all we can do today, it's OLBer in the base defense and DE in the most common nickel formation

No I meant EZE is better suited for the 34 OLB than DE. Yes he will play on the line but like Micah before him these dudes are prototype OLB’s. The punishment for 250lb DE’s in this league is too much at that weight.

 

[Jarntt]

No I meant EZE is better suited for the 34 OLB than DE. Yes he will play on the line but like Micah before him these dudes are prototype OLB’s. The punishment for 250lb DE’s in this league is too much at that weight.

Ah, EZ. I went by the thread title and thought you were discussing Gary.
First off, I agree that EZ is a better fit in a 3-4 than a 4-3. In a 4-3 he is a DE and probably would get worn down on run downs a little, but other than Micah we rotate so much (well, at least in the past) that I think he would be OK.

 

[Kingofholland]

A couple of things I'm just noticing..........

**.$16M gauranteed this year
** Is he a DE or DT?
** Front four = EZ, Clark, QW, and Gary
$16M this season guarantees Gary's starting spot at DE. So, where does Bailey or Bain fit this season ( five-man front), especially being drafted at 12. My point is, Jerry may NOT be as high on drafting an Edge as we are being led to believe. After all, Stephen did say LB and secondary were their priorities.

$16M this season is a lot of money..........


https://thelandryhat.com/packers-gm...las-cowboys-bold-rashan-gary-trade-in-big-way


Packers GM validates the Cowboys' bold Rashan Gary trade in a big way


His contract

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/player/_/id/29047/rashan-gary

I think EZE and Gary are your starting 3-4 OLBs at this moment. Gary is probably too light to play de in 3-4 as they normally are looking for 300+ LB guys. You may be right about drafting an edge player and it not being as high of a priority assuming they're high on EZE. They'll definitely need more depth so if edge is bpa nothing wrong with with adding another pass rusher. Other edge players in the mix Houston, Williams and Liufau.

Your starting dline some mix of Williams, Clark, and then either Toia or Otito.

 

[gimmesix]

A couple of things I'm just noticing..........

**.$16M gauranteed this year
** Is he a DE or DT?
** Front four = EZ, Clark, QW, and Gary
$16M this season guarantees Gary's starting spot at DE. So, where does Bailey or Bain fit this season ( five-man front), especially being drafted at 12. My point is, Jerry may NOT be as high on drafting an Edge as we are being led to believe. After all, Stephen did say LB and secondary were their priorities.

$16M this season is a lot of money..........


https://thelandryhat.com/packers-gm...las-cowboys-bold-rashan-gary-trade-in-big-way


Packers GM validates the Cowboys' bold Rashan Gary trade in a big way


His contract

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/player/_/id/29047/rashan-gary

He's a 3-4 OLB who may move inside as a pass rusher on third downs. Gives us a strong run defender on early downs who can generate some pass rush if teams pass on first down.

Bailey would probably start off as primarily a pass-rushing end in the nickel. Eze would probably be the other 3-4 OLB. Houston most likely subs in as a pass rusher, too.

Bain's a little different. He might bump Eze out of the 3-4 OLB spot, but he probably will also be a DE in the nickel looks, so Eze'd rotate in at 3-4 OLB.

 

[blueblood70]

A couple of things I'm just noticing..........

**.$16M gauranteed this year
** Is he a DE or DT?
** Front four = EZ, Clark, QW, and Gary
$16M this season guarantees Gary's starting spot at DE. So, where does Bailey or Bain fit this season ( five-man front), especially being drafted at 12. My point is, Jerry may NOT be as high on drafting an Edge as we are being led to believe. After all, Stephen did say LB and secondary were their priorities.

$16M this season is a lot of money..........


https://thelandryhat.com/packers-gm...las-cowboys-bold-rashan-gary-trade-in-big-way


Packers GM validates the Cowboys' bold Rashan Gary trade in a big way


His contract

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/player/_/id/29047/rashan-gary

Technically that's not what they call it in a 34 Do you call it whoever you want he's an outside linebacker that will be utilized as a pass rusher but he's both defensive tackle in a defensive end depending on the alignment but he's an outside linebacker..

Not a lot of money to just save the overpants for guy like Phillips They get the guy who'd run the 34 read well on the outside weather is the alignment has it right up online or not..

There's no longer 43 it's no longer looked at as defensive end or slash edge and young guys will always fit There's always room for multiple guys to be rotate in and out you remember here he's back Dad Armstrong and Fowler and Golson and Sam Williams and that guy Parsons along with Tank Now I might be missing somebody but they rotate them all away they all ate pretty well..

The news went and got paid I mean Armstrong and Dollar were starting for Washington they went to the NC championship game and Dan Quinns first year So they had a lot of death It works out well the ping online is how many facts you have to run they got money but 16 is a lot of money Not for what all those dudes on the alleged edge slash defense got this year they're all overpaid in the market wrecked itself because they overpaid for guys who are not working kind of money.


I hate to break to you,if you think sixteen is a lot it's a top five.. Want the rest here's the other file called the top 10



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Rank	Player	Team	Average Annual Value (AAV)
1	Micah Parsons	Green Bay Packers	$46,500,000
2	Aidan Hutchinson	Detroit Lions	$45,000,000
3	T.J. Watt	Pittsburgh Steelers	$41,000,000
4	Danielle Hunter	Houston Texans	$40,100,000
5	Myles Garrett	Cleveland Browns	$40,000,000
6	Maxx Crosby	Las Vegas Raiders	$35,500,000
7	Nick Bosa	San Francisco 49ers	$34,000,000
8	Jaelan Phillips	Carolina Panthers	$30,000,000
9	Josh Hines-Allen	Jacksonville Jaguars	$28,250,000
10	Brian Burns	New York Giants	$28,200,000

 

[blueblood70]

A couple of things I'm just noticing..........

**.$16M gauranteed this year
** Is he a DE or DT?
** Front four = EZ, Clark, QW, and Gary
$16M this season guarantees Gary's starting spot at DE. So, where does Bailey or Bain fit this season ( five-man front), especially being drafted at 12. My point is, Jerry may NOT be as high on drafting an Edge as we are being led to believe. After all, Stephen did say LB and secondary were their priorities.

$16M this season is a lot of money..........


https://thelandryhat.com/packers-gm...las-cowboys-bold-rashan-gary-trade-in-big-way


Packers GM validates the Cowboys' bold Rashan Gary trade in a big way


His contract

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/player/_/id/29047/rashan-gary

Decided to expand it to 20 and they're not even counting their reward contract if you want to put 16 there that means he's around 16 in the NFL for pay for anything you want to come well be edge, DE, pass rusher..

Do what I think I think you want to complain do you want to blame Jerry for overpaying or something this guy was considered at one time a very good 34 OLB/DE

Ian Clark next to each other with QW holding down the four are very good DL And they'll be adding more not just through draft but there are plenty room for plenty of snaps for playing where these guys but you complain about 16 I mean I'm getting guys close to earn the money they're making get paid that much nowadays You have to keep the large perspective.. He's every bit as this tank tanks salary seems higher to me depending on how you look at it let's just call it even..


Where's a feed frenzy these types of players in 380 and it made a crazy market they're all overpaid every one of the guys in freedom see in my opinion got overpaid From what I've seen them personally play football they are all overpaid That's what happens Free agency a certain position is a random and guys just overpay..

Rank	Player	Team	Average Annual Value (AAV)
1	Micah Parsons	Green Bay Packers	$46.5 Million
2	Aidan Hutchinson	Detroit Lions	$45.0 Million
3	T.J. Watt	Pittsburgh Steelers	$41.0 Million
4	Danielle Hunter	Houston Texans	$40.1 Million
5	Myles Garrett	Cleveland Browns	$40.0 Million
6	Maxx Crosby	Las Vegas Raiders	$35.5 Million
7	Nick Bosa	San Francisco 49ers	$34.0 Million
8	Jaelan Phillips	Carolina Panthers	$30.0 Million
9	Josh Hines-Allen	Jacksonville Jaguars	$28.25 Million
10	Brian Burns	New York Giants	$28.2 Million
11	Trey Hendrickson	Baltimore Ravens	$28.0 Million
12	Travon Walker	Jacksonville Jaguars	$27.5 Million
13	Nik Bonitto	Denver Broncos	$26.5 Million
14	Montez Sweat	Chicago Bears	$24.5 Million
15	Odafe Oweh	Washington Commanders	$24.0 Million
16	Andrew Van Ginkel	Minnesota Vikings	$23.0 Million
17	George Karlaftis	Kansas City Chiefs	$22.0 Million
18	Greg Rousseau	Buffalo Bills	$20.0 Million
19	Josh Sweat	Arizona Cardinals	$19.1 Million
20	Jonathan Greenard	Minnesota Vikings	$19.0 Million

 

[Hawkeye0202]

No. Starters only play 60%-70% of the snaps. So there are alot of snaps left. 500-600 easily

Gary played 53%, 59% and 62% of defensive snaps the last three seasons

Ok .....let me put it another way

#1 ...You draft if you trade up and draft Bailey....who are your starters?
EZ, Clark, QW, Gary, Bailey
Overshown --- MLBer ( not on team )

#2.... Same as number #1 except replace Bailey with Bain......

My point is .....I don't see Jerry drafting a player at 12 or moving up for an Edge who will NOT be a day-one starter.

EZ, Clark, QW and Gary starting positions are pretty ironclad.........

 

[blueblood70]

I thought when Parker was introduced they said EZ was going to be an OLB.

I thought at the time that this wouldn't be a good idea having EZ learn a new position when he had a good first year at DE. It would be starting at square one again.

Not that big difference in this type of scheme they're both an edge or defendant or if you want to call OLB it doesn't matter they're going to both play the run that's going to be the responsibility and you need to run the passer but they're not going to sit there and be necessary to only be on 3rd downs or 1st and 2nd down they're going to be expected to play all three downs if necessary because that is what the scheme entails and guys like Gary and Clark are used to that kind of scheme.

Yes guys like even Overshown, Liafu, and EZE at times are going to lining up like a de or OLB..

I'm not sure who's confused you or I ,

34 defense the actual ends I'm not truly pass rushers, They're supposed to hold down all the apps and open it up for me OLB to rush the passer.. I mean sure you're gonna get something from them but it's just gonna matter of the lines and their responsibilities are gonna change by the calls that is Parker doing with multiple and a 34 is so much different the ends are more like run stoppers that they hope to get a few facts but the OLS are the ones that are going to be doing it all and expect get more sacks.. But in defense like this they're not going to be asking or looking for anyone play to have 14 to 20 sacks that's not how it's designed from my viewpoint...

Know what kind of defense that Seattle ran but go get the way they rotated in and out how they kind of spread the love for the past percentage and the actual sack totals..

 

[jaythecowboy]

You need at least three edges. I also think Gary has the versatility to play inside some snaps (especially in obvious passing situations).

 

[blueblood70]

Ok .....let me put it another way

#1 ...You draft if you trade up and draft Bailey....who are your starters?
EZ, Clark, QW, Gary, Bailey
Overshown --- MLBer ( not on team )

#2.... Same as number #1 except replace Bailey with Bain......

My point is .....I don't see Jerry drafting a player at 12 or moving up for an Edge who will NOT be a day-one starter.

EZ, Clark, QW and Gary starting positions are pretty ironclad.........

That's what camp I mean pretty decent too for the young guys I mean why you asking now we even know for those guys are drafted you're worried about fake scenarios you're running scenarios don't matter right now let's let the drought happen let's have free agency finish so they can get to camp and they know the names and then we can watch it before our eyes on cream running to the top.

Camp competition the real thing they are going to be experimenting with a lot of those names..Liafu, OVwershown, eze etc They all will be positioned flexed no invalidables sometimes they will line up as an OLB ,

Which will be and you have a responsibility to stop the run first don't bite on the rpo etc, Then go to sack you can get some pressures. We don't know it's gonna look like nor should be getting because we don't even see the final bodies that are being taken to camp yet we're nowhere close we have the draft then we have secondary FA period, a trade, then we can talk about it..

 

[blueblood70]

You need at least three edges. I also think Gary has the versatility to play inside some snaps (especially in obvious passing situations).

He and Clark both you are very right.. They are going to be playing with a lot of these guys all of them although they're going to be playing normal linebacker or outside linebacker themes and listed as both They're not even really all defensive ends anymore but they end on a 34 or responsible for the run and to keep the off the linebackers but the outside linebacker is more like the defensive ends of passions but not always lined up on the line.. We've heard and it might get smoke screen, Liafu, Overshown, Eze etc all We'll be experimenting for all that..

 

[darthseinfeld]

Ok .....let me put it another way

#1 ...You draft if you trade up and draft Bailey....who are your starters?
EZ, Clark, QW, Gary, Bailey
Overshown --- MLBer ( not on team )

#2.... Same as number #1 except replace Bailey with Bain......

My point is .....I don't see Jerry drafting a player at 12 or moving up for an Edge who will NOT be a day-one starter.

EZ, Clark, QW and Gary starting positions are pretty ironclad.........

You are overthinking it. The "starter" label doesnt matter. You arw going to have three edge players getting starter level snaps. Especially considering Gary has gotten fewer than 60% of the snaps the last two years.