RB in the 1st round?

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Am i the only one that don't want a RB in the first round, looking at recent drafts, i would wait for the 2nd or 3th round to take a RB. seems like there's more value. And with our OL, i would perfer a top corner over a top RB...
 

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Clearly you are not the only one that thinks this.
 

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Only RB i'd take in the first is Gurley and it seems less and less likely he'll make it to 27 with each passing day. Otherwise, CB or DL. Ideally we can find a trade partner so we can address both in the second.
 

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Am i the only one that don't want a RB in the first round, looking at recent drafts, i would wait for the 2nd or 3th round to take a RB. seems like there's more value. And with our OL, i would perfer a top corner over a top RB...

Nope. I'm fine with Gurley/Gordon if the coaches feel they are the BPA, but I would lean towards the defense with the 1st pick.
 

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I would like to see Josh Robinson from Mississippi St run behind our OL. I have my doubts that he can be a primary back in the NFL, but still... there's just something about this guy.. And he should proberly be there in the late rounds
 

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The value might not be there at other positions. I would say go BPA or trade down and pick up a third. There will most likely not be enough value there to take a CB (Trae Waynes would be the only person worth in IMO and most likely he is gone far before us, the next couple of guys are all early 2nd round talents), its quite likely that all top LBs will be off the board, and I just don't see the value in DE at that spot, especially as they will most likely be our 4th best pass rusher next year and you really can only get immediate starters in the first and maybe second rounds a draft (we got lucky last year getting 3). If Gordon and/or Gurley are there, and that is the BPA... I would say take it.
 

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I wouldn't go CB in the 1st just because I don't think the value will be there. In my eyes it's Waynes and then everybody else. DL is another story, but it would have to be the right guy.

I think people are are over thinking the 1st round RB thing though. Pick #27 isn't exactly the same as drafting a RB early.
 

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I don't want a first round RB. Don't really want one in the second, either, but the guy I like best for us (Ajayi) seems to be unlikely to make it out of the 2nd now.
 

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I wouldn't go CB in the 1st just because I don't think the value will be there. In my eyes it's Waynes and then everybody else. DL is another story, but it would have to be the right guy.

I think people are are over thinking the 1st round RB thing though. Pick #27 isn't exactly the same as drafting a RB early.

I agree about the value not being there at #27, but if we traded back to say #35 and picked up a third, yea, the value would be there then with a couple of guys.
 
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I did not want a RB in the first round either, but I am coming around to the idea. Here's why: a number of teams have a need at RB and seem to be following the same strategy of not paying free agents at the position. I see a number of teams sitting at the top of the 2nd round and I predict a run on RBs there. Jacksonville, New York Jets, Minnesota (if AP leaves), Miami, San Diego. So second tier guys like Ajayi, Coleman, and Yeldon may be gone by pick 27. So I would either take our preferred RB of Gurley/Gordon if there in the 1st round, or trade down to top of 2nd and take one of our the second tier guys. I think we need a true franchise type back (one of these 5) to recreate what Murray did for us last year...
 

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Am i the only one that don't want a RB in the first round, looking at recent drafts, i would wait for the 2nd or 3th round to take a RB. seems like there's more value. And with our OL, i would perfer a top corner over a top RB...

Gordon or Gurley would be difficult to pass on. You need only look at the factor that contributed the most to the Cowboys being in the playoffs last year - the run game - to understand why fans and analyst alike would think an upgrade or, at minimum, status quo is a must for the Cowboys to contend in 2015. And I think most also would agree the answer is not on the roster yet. . Sure, the OL was a big part of last year's success, but gambling on a RB in the latter rounds is a risky proposition all things considered, despite being what many are describing a very talent RB draft class.

The issue is where the Cowboys are drafting. If they pass on Gurley/Gordon (given the scenario one of them is available) and decide to wait until the 2nd to get a guy like Ajayi for instance, he may already be gone by the time the Cowboys are picking late in the 2nd round. The same thing could happen every round, especially considering there are at least four team's, aside from the Cowboys, who will be looking to pick up a difference-maker RB: Panthers, Lions, Chargers and Cardinals.

So, to answer your question, it would honestly depend on who is also available and the value they could add to the team versus a Gurley or Gordon. Honestly, I seriously doubt there is a player the Cowboys could draft over Gurley/Gordon that would immediately contribute like the aforementioned running backs. Just my opinion, though. I also seriously doubt both will be available at 27th pick, so you may get your wish regardless of this discussion.
 

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I did not want a RB in the first round either, but I am coming around to the idea. Here's why: a number of teams have a need at RB and seem to be following the same strategy of not paying free agents at the position. I see a number of teams sitting at the top of the 2nd round and I predict a run on RBs there. Jacksonville, New York Jets, Minnesota (if AP leaves), Miami, San Diego. So second tier guys like Ajayi, Coleman, and Yeldon may be gone by pick 27. So I would either take our preferred RB of Gurley/Gordon if there in the 1st round, or trade down to top of 2nd and take one of our the second tier guys. I think we need a true franchise type back (one of these 5) to recreate what Murray did for us last year...

I'd be on board with that, so long as the Cowboys don't trade to back to far and end up missing out on all of their RB target's. Also, I'm not as crazy about Ajayi as most seem to be. His running style reminds me alot of Joseph Randle, and the Cowboys already have one of those.
 

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Gordon or Gurley would be difficult to pass on. You need only look at the factor that contributed the most to the Cowboys being in the playoffs last year - the run game - to understand why fans and analyst alike would think an upgrade or, at minimum, status quo is a must for the Cowboys to contend in 2015. And I think most also would agree the answer is not on the roster yet. . Sure, the OL was a big part of last year's success, but gambling on a RB in the latter rounds is a risky proposition all things considered, despite being what many are describing a very talent RB draft class.

The issue is where the Cowboys are drafting. If they pass on Gurley/Gordon (given the scenario one of them is available) and decide to wait until the 2nd to get a guy like Ajayi for instance, he may already be gone by the time the Cowboys are picking late in the 2nd round. The same thing could happen every round, especially considering there are at least four team's, aside from the Cowboys, who will be looking to pick up a difference-maker RB: Panthers, Lions, Chargers and Cardinals.

So, to answer your question, it would honestly depend on who is also available and the value they could add to the team versus a Gurley or Gordon. Honestly, I seriously doubt there is a player the Cowboys could draft over Gurley/Gordon that would immediately contribute like the aforementioned running backs. Just my opinion, though. I also seriously doubt both will be available at 27th pick, so you may get your wish regardless of this discussion.

I don't think there are that many threats to take a RB in rd 1 as people assume. SD and Arz are the 2 teams low enough in rd 1, with very little in the way of a starting RB. Det, Car and Bal all have RBs that have been successful with the Rbs currently on the roster and I think they will look to Rd 2-4 for a RB. They also all have big holes at WR, OL, DL and secondary. I think these teams all pass on a RB in rd 1. SD really, really needs OL help and Arz needs DL help. I think its just as likely both RBs are at 27 as neither.
 

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If Gordon or Gurley fall in your lap at #27 then you draft them if not there should be a good value at CB and DL.
 

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I don't think there are that many threats to take a RB in rd 1 as people assume. SD and Arz are the 2 teams low enough in rd 1, with very little in the way of a starting RB. Det, Car and Bal all have RBs that have been successful with the Rbs currently on the roster and I think they will look to Rd 2-4 for a RB. They also all have big holes at WR, OL, DL and secondary. I think these teams all pass on a RB in rd 1. SD really, really needs OL help and Arz needs DL help. I think its just as likely both RBs are at 27 as neither.

I don't think you understood what I wrote. It is possible that Gurley or Gordon will be available in the 1st...not what I would call likely, but possible. The problematic scenario I outlined, however, is a situation where Gordon or Gurley is available at 27. Chances are, they won't last until 60 which is where the Cowboys pick again. And what if there is a run on RB's from 27 to 60 and all of the Cowboys targets are gone for that round? And what if the same thing happens every round? What if the Cowboys have a Randy Moss like moment next year and watch the guy who was sitting there at 27 hit the scene like AP 2.0? Therein is my issue.
 

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I also seriously doubt both will be available at 27th pick, so you may get your wish regardless of this discussion.

I don't think you understood what I wrote. It is possible that Gurley or Gordon will be available in the 1st...not what I would call likely, but possible. The problematic scenario I outlined, however, is a situation where Gordon or Gurley is available at 27. Chances are, they won't last until 60 which is where the Cowboys pick again. And what if there is a run on RB's from 27 to 60 and all of the Cowboys targets are gone for that round? And what if the same thing happens every round? What if the Cowboys have a Randy Moss like moment next year and watch the guy who was sitting there at 27 hit the scene like AP 2.0? Therein is my issue.

It was mainly referencing the last line. Not saying you are, but a lot of people are thinking Gordon and Gurley are both gone by Arz and I don't think thats the case. Maybe 1, but I think one will be there. If anything I was agreeing with that statement.
 

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It was mainly referencing the last line. Not saying you are, but a lot of people are thinking Gordon and Gurley are both gone by Arz and I don't think thats the case. Maybe 1, but I think one will be there. If anything I was agreeing with that statement.

In that case, I am the one who did not understand.
 
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