Re-examining the roster (offense)

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With OTAs and the minicamps completed, here's a look at Dallas' roster as we wait on training camp:

QUARTERBACKS Tony Romo, Brad Johnson, Richard Bartel
Romo has taken steps to improve his game, such as standing taller and setting his feet better in the pocket, and the reports out of minicamp were that he was throwing the ball really well. Not much was reported on Johnson, and the information on Bartel was mixed. He dropped weight, shortened his release and worked on his footwork during the offseason, but it seemed like almost every time an interception was mentioned, he was throwing it.
OUTLOOK Right now, it's apparent that Romo's game could be getting even better than it's been (which in some ways should be expected since he's a "young" starter), while Johnson will continue in the backup role despite not doing anything impressive. Although it could change, it doesn't appear that Bartel is ready to demand a roster spot as Dallas should be able to get him back to the practice squad and go with Patrick Crayton (or Isaiah Stanback) and his 65- to 70-yard inaccurate arm as the emergency guy. It certainly wouldn't be a surprise, though, for Dallas to snatch up a cut young veteran to compete with Johnson and possibly be the third QB this year.

FULLBACKS Deon Anderson, Ronnie Cruz and Julius Crosslin
It's good to hear that Anderson's rehab from a torn rotator cuff took less time than expected, and the fact that he was playing with a partially torn rotator cuff (along with typical second-year progress) should give us hope that he'll be a better player. And even though it appears he has some weight and food (and sanity) issues, it sounds like he was able to drop to around his playing weight before minicamp and also was able to pick up some useful information on technique and work habits from Daryl Johnston. Not much was reported on the other two fullbacks, although I remember reading about Cruz at least catching a pass or two.
OUTLOOK The starting job has been clearly placed in Anderson's hands, but how much we actually use a fullback (instead of a second tight end) most likely depends on his development. He's got the hands and attitude to handle the position, but can he show enough dependability as a blocker to be needed on the field? That will be determined at training camp, along with whether Cruz or Crosslin can give us reason to keep two fullbacks on the roster (which I don't think they will).

RUNNING BACKS Marion Barber, Felix Jones, Tashard Choice, Alonzo Coleman, Keon Lattimore
Coach Wade Phillips has made it clear that Barber is the starter and his expected workload is going to be about what he received in the playoff game, with Jones and Choice receiving the remaining (8 to 10) carries. But that doesn't mean Jones won't receive more playing time than that, sometimes lining up in the backfield with Barber and motioning wide or sometimes being the only back in the backfield and motioning wide. Jones wasn't known for his receiving skills at Arkansas (didn't really get a chance to show them), but Dallas seems eager to get him involved in the passing game. Not much has been said about Choice, although it was reported that he showed a good burst to the outside, which is a good thing to hear about a slower back. Coleman has gotten some praise from Jerry Jones, but Phillips hasn't really mentioned him, and Lattimore only gets press for being Ray Lewis' brother.
OUTLOOK I don't think Barber will be used quite as much as Phillips says, but will be the starter and finisher. Jones' role appears to be, and has been described as, similar to Reggie Bush's in New Orleans. We can expect him to be motioning into and out of the backfield, being involved in screens and being used some even to stretch the field. I don't think much will be left over for Choice to do in the running game, but I do think his attitude gives him a chance to be a strong special-teams contributor. And, my surprise pick for the roster, is Coleman. It's not smart to buy into Jerry Jones' hyperbole, but I think Coleman will prove to be too hard to cut because of his "4.3" speed and toughmindedness. His ankle sprain didn't allow us to see what he could do last preseason, so the test will be whether he can stay healthy and show that he's worth keeping on the roster. If not, he'll likely at least earn a return trip to the practice squad, something I don't expect Lattimore to do.

WIDE RECEIVERS Terrell Owens, Terry Glenn, Patrick Crayton, Sam Hurd, Miles Austin, Isaiah Stanback, Danny Amendola, Mark Bradford, Mike Jefferson, Daniel Polk
Despite missing minicamp, Owens has shown no reason to expect a slip in his play this season. He's got a good attitude and is even being looked to as a leader. The bad attitude at the position has ceom from a different source - Glenn. It's somewhat understandable that he is bothered by any attempt to reduce his pay, but the attempt being made by Dallas shows that the Cowboys don't have a lot of faith in his knee holding up for the entire season. With Owens away, Hurd and Austin have shown they are ready to play. Austin has gotten the most praise for his ability to get open (and provide a deep threat) and because he has shown better hands than in the past. Hurd has gained some weight and seems to be making good use of his bigger body. Not much has been said about Crayton, other than we can watch for him attempting a wide receiver pass. Stanback has shown progress, but isn't consistent enough to be on the same level as Hurd and Austin. Amendola seems to be doing the most of the other four, showing the quickness to get some separation, while injuries and a change of position seem to be making it slow going for Polk.
OUTLOOK Expect the same group to be kept as last year, unless something can't be worked out with Glenn (I think a compromise will be reached). I see Owens putting up similar numbers as last year, but it should be interesting to see what Dallas does at the other starting spot. I think Glenn will get limited snaps with a mixture of Crayton, Austin and possibly Hurd stepping in as the No. 2. We might even see Felix Jones and Adam Jones as the second receiver at times. Stanback could be put in there for specific plays, but unless he earns a kick returning job (which looks doubtful), he probably won't be active very often. Amendola might can take a spot if Glenn refuses to compromise or shows he can't go in training camp, but it's more likely Dallas tries to put him on the practice squad. Polk could prove intriguing enough to make the practice squad, and I'm interested in seeing what Bradford can do, despite not much being reported about him.

TIGHT ENDS Jason Witten, Tony Curtis, Martellus Bennett, Rodney Hannah, Drew Atchison
It doesn't seem like much has been written about Witten, other than him being vastly underrated nationally and him showing a good attitude about striving to be better as a player and team. I don't think there's any doubt about his role and importance to this team, though. The focus of the media attention has been on Bennett not looking real good overall. Bennett has admitted to overthinking his job, leading to him not running plays at full speed or consistently handling his assignments and to Curtis being ahead of him on the depth chart. Some of that has to do with the development of Curtis, who made a few notable plays in minicamp (as did Bennett, who was more noted for his mistakes, though). I expected to hear more about Hannah after he received some good reports in the rookie minicamp, but not much else has been said, and Atchison isn't getting any press.
OUTLOOK I think we can expect Witten to continue being Dallas' true No. 2 receiver, even possibly getting more plays split wide. It won't surprise me, though, for Curtis to hold the No. 2 tight end role throughout the season. Dallas was comfortable trading Anthony Fasano because of Curtis' play, and it appears it's going to take time for Bennett to get up to speed and have any shot of overtaking him. Bennett shows flashes of ability, so there's no need to panic while he figures things out, especially with Curtis showing he can handle being the second tight end. Maybe Hannah can make an argument for a fourth tight end being kept, especially since the Cowboys won't likely keep more than one fullback, but I think either he or Atchison ends up on the practice squad and Dallas sticks with just three on the roster.

LINE Flozell Adams, Kyle Kosier, Andre Gurode, Leonard Davis, Marc Colombo, Doug Free, Joe Berger, Cory Proctor, James Marten, Pat McQuistan, Cory Lekkerkerker, Adam Stenavich, Ryan Gibbons
Not much can be gleaned about the line from minicamp workouts. The biggest news is that Marten got some playing time at guard and it appears that the backup tackles are set to be Free and McQuistan, whom many expected to be moved inside. The Cowboys did cut their only rookie lineman, Brandon Hale, and replaced him with a versatile former Jacksonville Jaguars practice squadder.
OUTLOOK With the same cast returning from last year, the Cowboys could go with 10 linemen again. But if Marten shows well at guard (the only report I remember seeing was about him getting tossed aside by Chris Canty), the Cowboys could let go of Berger, who will be an unrestricted free agent next offseason anyway. Berger could also just get beat out by one of the young vets, especially Lekkerkerker, who has some history with line coach Hudson Houck. Although we won't know much about the development of our starting line until camp, it does appear that some tweaks are being made to things Houck prefers, which could be a good thing based on the New York Giants showing Dallas' line isn't quite as good as the hype.
 

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That same offensive line did a pretty good job in the first 2 games so trying to discount it on the basis of PART of ONE game (where they had a 20 play drive) is a little odd.
 

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burmafrd;2126362 said:
That same offensive line did a pretty good job in the first 2 games so trying to discount it on the basis of PART of ONE game (where they had a 20 play drive) is a little odd.

I'm not (or don't mean for it to be taken that way). I just think that game displayed some weaknesses that were there throughout the season, so I used it as the example. The line is hyped as one of the best in the league, and I think it's real good, too, but there are things that need to get better in run blocking and pass blocking.

Hopefully, Houck can improve the weaker areas and this line can be truly dominant, not mostly dominant. Of course, I do admit that I'm holding it to very high standards because I think the physical ability is there to be the best in the league.
 

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Our offense is very good, and it showed almost every week last year. The minor issues with the offense are twofold: (1) improving consistency, also means limiting mistakes/penalties; and (2) strength of backups (in case of injury) - QB, WR, Oline.

The bigger issue last year was our defense and special teams. The defense is good and getting better -- need to stop teams on 3rd down and stop big plays. The defense probably has more depth than the offense. Special teams should be better, but who knows...we will see once the season starts.
 

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how about we go high school and run a double wing t to use all three:laugh2: j/k
 

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I believe we are unestimating Bartel to much. More improved than most know. Although I agree we could add a vet before training camp, unless it is someone with potential such as Simms or Leftwich or Culpepper then we either keep Johnson one more year or take the shot with Bartel.

Bartel can at least get the ball deep where Johnson can't anymore and is nothing more than a sitting duck back there.

I like the idea of 4 RBs with Coleman but I do see Lattimore on the PS.

I wouldn't sell the TEs down the farm yet at Witten, Curtis and Bennett. I know they like Curtis ability to catch but his blocking has much to be desired. If Hannah has a good camp, it could be interesting to see what we do there. Atichson probably goes to the PS.

On the OL, I am not sure we won't see Parcells make a play to get McQuistan to play RT or LG for them. As much as I would like to see him stay, unless he can beat out Colombo, you have to believe that for the right price Jerry would make a deal.

On the WRs, the same as last year makes sense but I am not sure really on the Glenn deal. I could see Jefferson make a run at a roster spot. Great speed and his route running and catching seem to be extremely improved.

Training camp should be interesting.
 

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Our O-Line will be just fine. The Giants just had one of those runs where they were able to just sell out, entirely, up front like that. They won't be able to do that this year.
 

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gimmesix;2126296 said:
WIDE RECEIVERS
With Owens away, Hurd and Austin have shown they are ready to play. Austin has gotten the most praise for his ability to get open (and provide a deep threat) and because he has shown better hands than in the past. Hurd has gained some weight and seems to be making good use of his bigger body.

I really hope all the reports about Austin getting open and improving his catching is true. We already know that he has the speed and physical ability to be a factor. If Austin has really come on, I think that makes Glenn expendable.

Amendola seems to be doing the most of the other four, showing the quickness to get some separation, while injuries and a change of position seem to be making it slow going for Polk.
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Amendola might can take a spot if Glenn refuses to compromise or shows he can't go in training camp, but it's more likely Dallas tries to put him on the practice squad.

I will say this again, I would rather keep Amendola and let him continue to improve than to cut him and keep Glenn for a handful of games (I can't see him lasting a full season) before he retires. Amendola will not make the practice squad if he is cut. Some team like the Eagles will nab him.
 

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gimmesix;2126296 said:
RUNNING BACKS Marion Barber, Felix Jones, Tashard Choice, Alonzo Coleman, Keon Lattimore
Coach Wade Phillips has made it clear that Barber is the starter and his expected workload is going to be about what he received in the playoff game, with Jones and Choice receiving the remaining (8 to 10) carries. But that doesn't mean Jones won't receive more playing time than that, sometimes lining up in the backfield with Barber and motioning wide or sometimes being the only back in the backfield and motioning wide. Jones wasn't known for his receiving skills at Arkansas (didn't really get a chance to show them), but Dallas seems eager to get him involved in the passing game. Not much has been said about Choice, although it was reported that he showed a good burst to the outside, which is a good thing to hear about a slower back. Coleman has gotten some praise from Jerry Jones, but Phillips hasn't really mentioned him, and Lattimore only gets press for being Ray Lewis' brother.
OUTLOOK I don't think Barber will be used quite as much as Phillips says, but will be the starter and finisher. Jones' role appears to be, and has been described as, similar to Reggie Bush's in New Orleans. We can expect him to be motioning into and out of the backfield, being involved in screens and being used some even to stretch the field. I don't think much will be left over for Choice to do in the running game, but I do think his attitude gives him a chance to be a strong special-teams contributor. And, my surprise pick for the roster, is Coleman. It's not smart to buy into Jerry Jones' hyperbole, but I think Coleman will prove to be too hard to cut because of his "4.3" speed and toughmindedness. His ankle sprain didn't allow us to see what he could do last preseason, so the test will be whether he can stay healthy and show that he's worth keeping on the roster. If not, he'll likely at least earn a return trip to the practice squad, something I don't expect Lattimore to do.

I think that in the opener, Jones will get a fair share of carries to give Jerry that warm and fuzzy feeling in his stomach of watching "his" pick and fellow Arkansas alumni running with the ball.... and after he realizes that he's a rookie and he needs a chance to develop first, reality will set in and Barber will be the 80/20 back.

Then maybe later in the season around week 12 we'll slowly see a shift of 65/35 Barber/Jones if Barber isn't totally dominating. If Barber plays as expected, I doubt that Jason Garrett will upset the balance if the 'Boys are seeing success with Barber in command.

He'll just give Jerry his little taste of happiness because everyone knows that Jerry has gotta get his :)
 

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Sandyf;2126548 said:
I believe we are unestimating Bartel to much. More improved than most know. Although I agree we could add a vet before training camp, unless it is someone with potential such as Simms or Leftwich or Culpepper then we either keep Johnson one more year or take the shot with Bartel.

Bartel can at least get the ball deep where Johnson can't anymore and is nothing more than a sitting duck back there.

I'm not knocking Bartel, there is some physical ability there. It just seems that he's about where Romo was in his second year of development ... lots of technique/timing work being done, and isn't showing yet that Dallas could turn to him if necessary instead of going after a veteran. If that's the case, then the Cowboys will likely put him back on the practice squad instead of using up a roster space, and I think they will be able to because his play won't be consistent enough to worry about him being claimed on waivers.

Sandyf;2126548 said:
I wouldn't sell the TEs down the farm yet at Witten, Curtis and Bennett. I know they like Curtis ability to catch but his blocking has much to be desired. If Hannah has a good camp, it could be interesting to see what we do there. Atichson probably goes to the PS.

I can understand why Curtis' blocking gets knocked, because it was an issue for him two years ago. However, he was vastly improved at it last off-season, and did well when called upon ... possibly better than Fasano. He showed development as an all-around tight end, and I think he's going to be hard to beat unless Bennett can wrap his head around the playbook.

Sandyf;2126548 said:
On the OL, I am not sure we won't see Parcells make a play to get McQuistan to play RT or LG for them. As much as I would like to see him stay, unless he can beat out Colombo, you have to believe that for the right price Jerry would make a deal.

I can't see us trading McQuistan. Colombo is in the final year of his contract, and I'm not sure we re-sign him because of how much money is invested in the rest of the line. The job could be McQuistan's to win next year.
 

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BraveHeartFan;2126675 said:
Our O-Line will be just fine. The Giants just had one of those runs where they were able to just sell out, entirely, up front like that. They won't be able to do that this year.

I think our line will be fine, too. There's just some areas where it can improve and be great.

I do think Hudson Houck's style of line play will better fit this group overall than Tony Sparano's. Should be more straight-up slobber-knockin.'
 

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jdub2k4;2126805 said:
I will say this again, I would rather keep Amendola and let him continue to improve than to cut him and keep Glenn for a handful of games (I can't see him lasting a full season) before he retires. Amendola will not make the practice squad if he is cut. Some team like the Eagles will nab him.

You and me both, bro.

No way, IMO, does Amendola make it to the practice squad. I'm not saying he's all that... but there were tons of teams calling him as soon as the draft was over wanting him to come play for them. Miami and San Diego both wanted him, IIRC, among others. Dallas is percieved as a talented roster so anyone we let go in the final cutdowns is going to be looked at a lot.

If we try to sneak him on the PS, we will lose him.

Now if he tanks and simply isn't any good, then whatever... but if we like how he plays then we need to keep him on the 53-man roster in order for him to stay a Cowboy.

You're right on about Glenn too. If he isn't done completely, he's close. I've really liked having Glenn in Dallas... but not now at the cost of losing someone who has good potential. Sort of the same thing we did with Aaron Glenn and N. Jones, Alan Ball and J. Reeves.

That one didn't end up so great, but Aaron Glenn had more to offer a team, IMO and Amendola has more potential than either Jones or Reeves.
 

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AsthmaField;2127138 said:
You and me both, bro.

No way, IMO, does Amendola make it to the practice squad. I'm not saying he's all that... but there were tons of teams calling him as soon as the draft was over wanting him to come play for them. Miami and San Diego both wanted him, IIRC, among others. Dallas is percieved as a talented roster so anyone we let go in the final cutdowns is going to be looked at a lot.

If we try to sneak him on the PS, we will lose him.

Now if he tanks and simply isn't any good, then whatever... but if we like how he plays then we need to keep him on the 53-man roster in order for him to stay a Cowboy.

You're right on about Glenn too. If he isn't done completely, he's close. I've really liked having Glenn in Dallas... but not now at the cost of losing someone who has good potential. Sort of the same thing we did with Aaron Glenn and N. Jones, Alan Ball and J. Reeves.

That one didn't end up so great, but Aaron Glenn had more to offer a team, IMO and Amendola has more potential than either Jones or Reeves.

I just don't see it happening unless Glenn refuses to compromise or gets hurt.

I like that Austin and Hurd are making some noise, but I can't see Jerry Jones completely relying on either to replace Glenn when he feels this team is on verge of winning it all. He knows what Glenn can do when healthy, but no matter how Austin/Hurd do in camp, there won't be a comfort that they can absolutely be that threat opposite Owens until they prove it during the season.

I guess it's possible that Dallas could keep seven receivers, but that seems highly unlikely.
 

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gimmesix;2127154 said:
I just don't see it happening unless Glenn refuses to compromise or gets hurt.

I like that Austin and Hurd are making some noise, but I can't see Jerry Jones completely relying on either to replace Glenn when he feels this team is on verge of winning it all. He knows what Glenn can do when healthy, but no matter how Austin/Hurd do in camp, there won't be a comfort that they can absolutely be that threat opposite Owens until they prove it during the season.

I agree somewhat, but Glenn, while he is an accomplished WR... has never played any significant time with Romo. Glenn always did well with Drew Bledsoe, but I wonder what kind of rapport he has with Romo.

And there is a chance that Glenn will never quite be the player he once was.

In any event... I feel that if Jones thinks the team is just as well off with a rookie instead of Glenn, then Jerry will go with the youth. Plus, Jerry and Jason Garrett has really been wanting their own Welker, and Amendola is probably as close as we're going to get to that.

gimmesix;2127154 said:
I guess it's possible that Dallas could keep seven receivers, but that seems highly unlikely.

I don't see us keeping 7, either.

I see:
TO
Crayton
Hurd
Austin
Stanback
Amendola.

However, since Amendola is so good at special teams, there is a chance that if Glenn is good to go, Dallas will keep the Texas Tech rookie and use him extensively on special teams. In other words... where we would normally keep a DB primarily for special teams, instead keep a WR (Amendola), giving us seven WR's on the 53 man roster.

Still, all in all... you're probably correct.
 

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AsthmaField;2127157 said:
And there is a chance that Glenn will never quite be the player he once was.

That, of course, is the big risk, and the main reason Jones was shopping for a quality vet receiver to go with Owens.

I do think "quality vet receiver" is the main emphasis for Jones, and the reason he won't give up on Glenn until he either has to or finds a proven threat to team with Owens.

I think the unproven guys will get some chances this year, though, to prove themselves as we limit Glenn's reps during the regular season ... so maybe we can find his eventual replacement from within.
 

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I am not sure that Lattimore won't make the practice squad. He has some talent. Does he have more than Coleman? I don't know. I guess we will find out in camp and the preseason. Also, I think the reviews on Amendola have been mixed. Flashy in the rookie mini-camp, but not so noticeable when the vets are on the field. He is everyone's new FA obsession, but we have heard reports just as positive earlier in the off season about Mike Jefferson. I do think it is possible we keep 7 receivers if Amendola or Jefferson make final cuts difficult and JJ just can't bring himself to part with Glenn. We do have a glaring weaknesses at back-up QB that still needs to be addressed. If Romo goes down for any significant time we are toast, but we do need someone who can step in and win a game or two if necessary. Brad Johnson isn't that guy and Bartel is a total unknown at this point. TE is interesting, you have to expect Curtis and Bennett are locks, but Hannah has showed something also. Could he be kept around as a hybrid TE/FB?
 
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