Re-Visiting The 2016 Draft Class- Five Years Later

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On the old DallasCowboys . com forum, I made a thread that reached over 180 pages in the Spring of 2016 giving the Cowboys a grade of F- for their 2016 NFL Draft performance.

I was chastised for the grade at the time by some, and applauded and commended by others. But by the end of the ensuing regular season, I was crucified for it and practically every single user on those forums made me out to be some sort of idiot by making that thread. My thread "Solid F- draft" became the brunt of jokes on the DC .com forum for a nice long while.

But, as the tried-and-true saying always goes... You have to wait 5 full years in order to fully judge a draft class. You can't judge it one way or the other after one, two, or even three years.

https://www.espn.com/blog/dallas-co...boys-draft-picks-analysis-for-every-selection

Round 1, pick No. 4: Ezekiel Elliott, RB, Ohio State - my grade was a solid F or 55% out of 100% because Ramsey, Jack and trade back were all top possibilities, DeForest Buckner and many other more impactful long-term players were on the board, and even in 2016 it was well known that you don't take a RB that high... plenty to be had in the mid rounds to replace Murray and McFadden

Round 2, pick No. 34:
Jaylon Smith, OLB, Notre Dame - my grade was an F----- or 1% out of 100% because you don't waste such a high pick on a player who will for sure miss one season, maybe more, maybe never come back, and if he does he will likely have a short and low-impact career due to the severe injury suffered

Round 3, pick No. 67: Maliek Collins, DT, Nebraska - my grade was a D+ or 68% out of 100% because though it was a position of need, there were better players on the board at the time and Collins hadn't shown that he was better than a JAG in college at Nebraska. The comments about him were not good... best case scenario he will be "clay" for Coach Rod Marinelli to "work with" at the time

Round 4, pick No. 101: Charles Tapper, DE, Oklahoma - my grade was an F--- or 30% out of 100% because despite the production in college and athletic traits, he had a known spine condition that would shorten his career. Though he might have been one of the better immediate pass rushers available so late in the draft, he was another guy like Smith who was going to be certain to miss his rookie year. You have to draft for the now in today's NFL, especially with the higher draft choices

Round 4, pick No. 135: Dak Prescott, QB, Mississippi State - my grade was a C- or a 70% out of 100% because though obviously the Cowboys needed more competition at quarterback due to the Romo injury risk, Prescott was looking like a low-rent Teddy Bridgewater or Tyrod Taylor and at best could be a bus driver who had a lot to learn before becoming a capable NFL quarterback. Not an accurate pocket passer or much pocket presence, but also not a dynamic athlete like Michael Vick or RGIII coming out of college. A developmental project QB after missing out on the top choices.

Round 6, pick No. 189: Anthony Brown, CB, Purdue - my grade was a C- or a 72% out of 100% because while he did get burnt a lot in college, his speed for his position was rare to be had in the late rounds, and I figured he could become a solid player on special teams in due time. Never would I have guessed he would actually have to be relied on at some point to start at cornerback, though Brandon Carr and Morris Claiborne as the starters weren't exactly an impressive combination either

Round 6, pick No. 212: Kavon Frazier, S, Central Michigan - my grade was a D- or a 62% out of 100% because other, more gifted players were on the board even so late in the draft. I couldn't fathom he would even be able to make an impact on special teams. Obviously, he was drafted to learn from and potentially back up Barry Church, a similar low-athleticism UDFA from the past, but the sentiment at the time was we needed an actual athlete to play that position, not another slow plodding box safety who can't cover

Round 6, pick No. 216: Darius Jackson, RB, Eastern Michigan - my grade was a B or an 84% out of because although drafting a back in the late rounds is smart, there were a few other backs with somewhat more upside than Jackson to be had in the 6th round. Still, drafting a back here is smart, but you had much better options in earlier rounds without squandering the #4 overall you had suffered so greatly all 2015 to acquire on a .....running back

Round 6, pick No. 217: Rico Gathers, TE, Baylor - my grade was a solid F----- or a 5% out of 100%. He's a basketball player who didn't make it in the NCAA and never had played football except flag and touch football for fun. He was never a football player. He was a big plodding body with size and weak hands and zero blocking ability. Terrible project. Yes, lots of wasted picks this late in the draft, but at least please draft someone who has a halfway decent chance to make the NFL.

Spring 2016 Final grade: F- or 49.7%. (Weighted: 43.9%.)


As of today, December 12th, 2021, roughly two and a half years later. I, (millennial_messiah of DC . com ex-forum) stand by these draft grades. I wouldn't mind it if none of them remained on the team, or a small handful of them at cheap salaries.

Definitely not the Ramsey-Henry-and so on draft I had in mind that spring.

What say y'all?
 

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On the old DallasCowboys . com forum, I made a thread that reached over 180 pages in the Spring of 2016 giving the Cowboys a grade of F- for their 2016 NFL Draft performance.

I was chastised for the grade at the time by some, and applauded and commended by others. But by the end of the ensuing regular season, I was crucified for it and practically every single user on those forums made me out to be some sort of idiot by making that thread. My thread "Solid F- draft" became the brunt of jokes on the DC .com forum for a nice long while.

But, as the tried-and-true saying always goes... You have to wait 5 full years in order to fully judge a draft class. You can't judge it one way or the other after one, two, or even three years.

https://www.espn.com/blog/dallas-co...boys-draft-picks-analysis-for-every-selection

Round 1, pick No. 4: Ezekiel Elliott, RB, Ohio State - my grade was a solid F or 55% out of 100% because Ramsey, Jack and trade back were all top possibilities, DeForest Buckner and many other more impactful long-term players were on the board, and even in 2016 it was well known that you don't take a RB that high... plenty to be had in the mid rounds to replace Murray and McFadden

Round 2, pick No. 34:
Jaylon Smith, OLB, Notre Dame - my grade was an F----- or 1% out of 100% because you don't waste such a high pick on a player who will for sure miss one season, maybe more, maybe never come back, and if he does he will likely have a short and low-impact career due to the severe injury suffered

Round 3, pick No. 67: Maliek Collins, DT, Nebraska - my grade was a D+ or 68% out of 100% because though it was a position of need, there were better players on the board at the time and Collins hadn't shown that he was better than a JAG in college at Nebraska. The comments about him were not good... best case scenario he will be "clay" for Coach Rod Marinelli to "work with" at the time

Round 4, pick No. 101: Charles Tapper, DE, Oklahoma - my grade was an F--- or 30% out of 100% because despite the production in college and athletic traits, he had a known spine condition that would shorten his career. Though he might have been one of the better immediate pass rushers available so late in the draft, he was another guy like Smith who was going to be certain to miss his rookie year. You have to draft for the now in today's NFL, especially with the higher draft choices

Round 4, pick No. 135: Dak Prescott, QB, Mississippi State - my grade was a C- or a 70% out of 100% because though obviously the Cowboys needed more competition at quarterback due to the Romo injury risk, Prescott was looking like a low-rent Teddy Bridgewater or Tyrod Taylor and at best could be a bus driver who had a lot to learn before becoming a capable NFL quarterback. Not an accurate pocket passer or much pocket presence, but also not a dynamic athlete like Michael Vick or RGIII coming out of college. A developmental project QB after missing out on the top choices.

Round 6, pick No. 189: Anthony Brown, CB, Purdue - my grade was a C- or a 72% out of 100% because while he did get burnt a lot in college, his speed for his position was rare to be had in the late rounds, and I figured he could become a solid player on special teams in due time. Never would I have guessed he would actually have to be relied on at some point to start at cornerback, though Brandon Carr and Morris Claiborne as the starters weren't exactly an impressive combination either

Round 6, pick No. 212: Kavon Frazier, S, Central Michigan - my grade was a D- or a 62% out of 100% because other, more gifted players were on the board even so late in the draft. I couldn't fathom he would even be able to make an impact on special teams. Obviously, he was drafted to learn from and potentially back up Barry Church, a similar low-athleticism UDFA from the past, but the sentiment at the time was we needed an actual athlete to play that position, not another slow plodding box safety who can't cover

Round 6, pick No. 216: Darius Jackson, RB, Eastern Michigan - my grade was a B or an 84% out of because although drafting a back in the late rounds is smart, there were a few other backs with somewhat more upside than Jackson to be had in the 6th round. Still, drafting a back here is smart, but you had much better options in earlier rounds without squandering the #4 overall you had suffered so greatly all 2015 to acquire on a .....running back

Round 6, pick No. 217: Rico Gathers, TE, Baylor - my grade was a solid F----- or a 5% out of 100%. He's a basketball player who didn't make it in the NCAA and never had played football except flag and touch football for fun. He was never a football player. He was a big plodding body with size and weak hands and zero blocking ability. Terrible project. Yes, lots of wasted picks this late in the draft, but at least please draft someone who has a halfway decent chance to make the NFL.

Spring 2016 Final grade: F- or 49.7%. (Weighted: 43.9%.)


As of today, December 12th, 2021, roughly two and a half years later. I, (millennial_messiah of DC . com ex-forum) stand by these draft grades. I wouldn't mind it if none of them remained on the team, or a small handful of them at cheap salaries.

Definitely not the Ramsey-Henry-and so on draft I had in mind that spring.

What say y'all?
If you get a franchise quarterback, 3 time league rushing champ and a solid cornerback that is an A draft.
 

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On the old DallasCowboys . com forum, I made a thread that reached over 180 pages in the Spring of 2016 giving the Cowboys a grade of F- for their 2016 NFL Draft performance.

I was chastised for the grade at the time by some, and applauded and commended by others. But by the end of the ensuing regular season, I was crucified for it and practically every single user on those forums made me out to be some sort of idiot by making that thread. My thread "Solid F- draft" became the brunt of jokes on the DC .com forum for a nice long while.

But, as the tried-and-true saying always goes... You have to wait 5 full years in order to fully judge a draft class. You can't judge it one way or the other after one, two, or even three years.

https://www.espn.com/blog/dallas-co...boys-draft-picks-analysis-for-every-selection

Round 1, pick No. 4: Ezekiel Elliott, RB, Ohio State - my grade was a solid F or 55% out of 100% because Ramsey, Jack and trade back were all top possibilities, DeForest Buckner and many other more impactful long-term players were on the board, and even in 2016 it was well known that you don't take a RB that high... plenty to be had in the mid rounds to replace Murray and McFadden

Round 2, pick No. 34:
Jaylon Smith, OLB, Notre Dame - my grade was an F----- or 1% out of 100% because you don't waste such a high pick on a player who will for sure miss one season, maybe more, maybe never come back, and if he does he will likely have a short and low-impact career due to the severe injury suffered

Round 3, pick No. 67: Maliek Collins, DT, Nebraska - my grade was a D+ or 68% out of 100% because though it was a position of need, there were better players on the board at the time and Collins hadn't shown that he was better than a JAG in college at Nebraska. The comments about him were not good... best case scenario he will be "clay" for Coach Rod Marinelli to "work with" at the time

Round 4, pick No. 101: Charles Tapper, DE, Oklahoma - my grade was an F--- or 30% out of 100% because despite the production in college and athletic traits, he had a known spine condition that would shorten his career. Though he might have been one of the better immediate pass rushers available so late in the draft, he was another guy like Smith who was going to be certain to miss his rookie year. You have to draft for the now in today's NFL, especially with the higher draft choices

Round 4, pick No. 135: Dak Prescott, QB, Mississippi State - my grade was a C- or a 70% out of 100% because though obviously the Cowboys needed more competition at quarterback due to the Romo injury risk, Prescott was looking like a low-rent Teddy Bridgewater or Tyrod Taylor and at best could be a bus driver who had a lot to learn before becoming a capable NFL quarterback. Not an accurate pocket passer or much pocket presence, but also not a dynamic athlete like Michael Vick or RGIII coming out of college. A developmental project QB after missing out on the top choices.

Round 6, pick No. 189: Anthony Brown, CB, Purdue - my grade was a C- or a 72% out of 100% because while he did get burnt a lot in college, his speed for his position was rare to be had in the late rounds, and I figured he could become a solid player on special teams in due time. Never would I have guessed he would actually have to be relied on at some point to start at cornerback, though Brandon Carr and Morris Claiborne as the starters weren't exactly an impressive combination either

Round 6, pick No. 212: Kavon Frazier, S, Central Michigan - my grade was a D- or a 62% out of 100% because other, more gifted players were on the board even so late in the draft. I couldn't fathom he would even be able to make an impact on special teams. Obviously, he was drafted to learn from and potentially back up Barry Church, a similar low-athleticism UDFA from the past, but the sentiment at the time was we needed an actual athlete to play that position, not another slow plodding box safety who can't cover

Round 6, pick No. 216: Darius Jackson, RB, Eastern Michigan - my grade was a B or an 84% out of because although drafting a back in the late rounds is smart, there were a few other backs with somewhat more upside than Jackson to be had in the 6th round. Still, drafting a back here is smart, but you had much better options in earlier rounds without squandering the #4 overall you had suffered so greatly all 2015 to acquire on a .....running back

Round 6, pick No. 217: Rico Gathers, TE, Baylor - my grade was a solid F----- or a 5% out of 100%. He's a basketball player who didn't make it in the NCAA and never had played football except flag and touch football for fun. He was never a football player. He was a big plodding body with size and weak hands and zero blocking ability. Terrible project. Yes, lots of wasted picks this late in the draft, but at least please draft someone who has a halfway decent chance to make the NFL.

Spring 2016 Final grade: F- or 49.7%. (Weighted: 43.9%.)


As of today, December 12th, 2021, roughly two and a half years later. I, (millennial_messiah of DC . com ex-forum) stand by these draft grades. I wouldn't mind it if none of them remained on the team, or a small handful of them at cheap salaries.

Definitely not the Ramsey-Henry-and so on draft I had in mind that spring.

What say y'all?
You think anybody here believes you?

Do I need to pull up the thread where you said we should trade Lamb?
 

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If you get a franchise quarterback, 3 time league rushing champ and a solid cornerback that is an A draft.
1. You got a 4th round talent at QB who you artificially made to be a franchise quarterback by thrusting him into the spotlight and paying him the big bucks because you couldn't figure out a better solution.

2. You got a league rushing champ because any halfway decent running back running behind the mid-2010s GWOD would have been a multi-time rushing champ. DeMarco Murray looked like prime Jim Brown for a couple years. Darren McFadden, a career failure and retread, rushed for over 1k even though he didn't even start the first half of the season over Joseph Randle. Derrick Henry? For sure. Cook? Absolutely. Kamara? Indubitably. These guys you take in the 2nd and 3rd rounds, folks. Unfortunately, the GWOD era is long over.

3. Anthony Brown is a solid cornerback? You must be joking, right? He gets cooked every single damn game. Drops easy gimme INTs. He makes Brandon Used Carr look good sometimes.
 
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You think anybody here believes you?

Do I need to pull up the thread where you said we should trade Lamb?
Lamb has been a disappointment. Granted, I wouldn't have taken the BPA there who was Justin Jefferson; I can't deny that one. I wouldn't have taken Chaisson, either. I would have either traded down and/or selected Xavier McKinney, who I believe is a stud strong safety. McKinney/Diggs would have been an awesome first two picks. Granted, I wanted someone like Kinlaw in the first, but he didn't fall to us.

I also definitely would have taken Juan Thornhill over Trysten Hill in 2019. Thornhill has come on strong recently for KC.
 

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Lamb has been a disappointment. Granted, I wouldn't have taken the BPA there who was Justin Jefferson; I can't deny that one. I wouldn't have taken Chaisson, either. I would have either traded down and/or selected Xavier McKinney, who I believe is a stud strong safety. McKinney/Diggs would have been an awesome first two picks. Granted, I wanted someone like Kinlaw in the first, but he didn't fall to us.

I also definitely would have taken Juan Thornhill over Trysten Hill in 2019. Thornhill has come on strong recently for KC.
You are FOS.
 

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That was 5 years ago



move on
It takes 5 years to fully evaluate a draft class. Any NFL expert will tell you this.

While I like 2021's for instance, Micah Parsons is looking like an A+ pick and I had graded the Cowboys an "A" because he was really the only option on defense with the corners off the board and we also had the added bonus in trading back. But I can't hand out final report cards on them because they're simply too young and unproven and the proper time interval hasn't elapsed. Kelvin Joseph has talent but he's looking like a bust because he can't crack the rotation on defense, at least yet, over inferiors like Anthony Brown. Nahshon Wright looks to be a core special teamer for life. Golston looks like an okay backup edge/DE hybrid prospect... sort of like Armstrong. Odighizuwa looks good, but we'll see. Cox looked excellent before the injury, we'll see how that affects him going forward. None of the other players have stood out from the later rounds.

But you never know? In 2022 Parsons could come down with a career ending injury, leaving Odighizuwa and a bunch of scrubs and the 2021 class could be a near complete bust. You just never know this early.
 

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Just because you don't like what you've seen in recent weeks doesn't erase everything the players have accomplished.

Geez man, by any criteria Dak was an absolute steal as a 4th round pick. No need to even discuss the other grades, because that one is alarming.
 

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On the old DallasCowboys . com forum, I made a thread that reached over 180 pages in the Spring of 2016 giving the Cowboys a grade of F- for their 2016 NFL Draft performance.

I was chastised for the grade at the time by some, and applauded and commended by others. But by the end of the ensuing regular season, I was crucified for it and practically every single user on those forums made me out to be some sort of idiot by making that thread. My thread "Solid F- draft" became the brunt of jokes on the DC .com forum for a nice long while.

But, as the tried-and-true saying always goes... You have to wait 5 full years in order to fully judge a draft class. You can't judge it one way or the other after one, two, or even three years.

https://www.espn.com/blog/dallas-co...boys-draft-picks-analysis-for-every-selection

Round 1, pick No. 4: Ezekiel Elliott, RB, Ohio State - my grade was a solid F or 55% out of 100% because Ramsey, Jack and trade back were all top possibilities, DeForest Buckner and many other more impactful long-term players were on the board, and even in 2016 it was well known that you don't take a RB that high... plenty to be had in the mid rounds to replace Murray and McFadden

Round 2, pick No. 34:
Jaylon Smith, OLB, Notre Dame - my grade was an F----- or 1% out of 100% because you don't waste such a high pick on a player who will for sure miss one season, maybe more, maybe never come back, and if he does he will likely have a short and low-impact career due to the severe injury suffered

Round 3, pick No. 67: Maliek Collins, DT, Nebraska - my grade was a D+ or 68% out of 100% because though it was a position of need, there were better players on the board at the time and Collins hadn't shown that he was better than a JAG in college at Nebraska. The comments about him were not good... best case scenario he will be "clay" for Coach Rod Marinelli to "work with" at the time

Round 4, pick No. 101: Charles Tapper, DE, Oklahoma - my grade was an F--- or 30% out of 100% because despite the production in college and athletic traits, he had a known spine condition that would shorten his career. Though he might have been one of the better immediate pass rushers available so late in the draft, he was another guy like Smith who was going to be certain to miss his rookie year. You have to draft for the now in today's NFL, especially with the higher draft choices

Round 4, pick No. 135: Dak Prescott, QB, Mississippi State - my grade was a C- or a 70% out of 100% because though obviously the Cowboys needed more competition at quarterback due to the Romo injury risk, Prescott was looking like a low-rent Teddy Bridgewater or Tyrod Taylor and at best could be a bus driver who had a lot to learn before becoming a capable NFL quarterback. Not an accurate pocket passer or much pocket presence, but also not a dynamic athlete like Michael Vick or RGIII coming out of college. A developmental project QB after missing out on the top choices.

Round 6, pick No. 189: Anthony Brown, CB, Purdue - my grade was a C- or a 72% out of 100% because while he did get burnt a lot in college, his speed for his position was rare to be had in the late rounds, and I figured he could become a solid player on special teams in due time. Never would I have guessed he would actually have to be relied on at some point to start at cornerback, though Brandon Carr and Morris Claiborne as the starters weren't exactly an impressive combination either

Round 6, pick No. 212: Kavon Frazier, S, Central Michigan - my grade was a D- or a 62% out of 100% because other, more gifted players were on the board even so late in the draft. I couldn't fathom he would even be able to make an impact on special teams. Obviously, he was drafted to learn from and potentially back up Barry Church, a similar low-athleticism UDFA from the past, but the sentiment at the time was we needed an actual athlete to play that position, not another slow plodding box safety who can't cover

Round 6, pick No. 216: Darius Jackson, RB, Eastern Michigan - my grade was a B or an 84% out of because although drafting a back in the late rounds is smart, there were a few other backs with somewhat more upside than Jackson to be had in the 6th round. Still, drafting a back here is smart, but you had much better options in earlier rounds without squandering the #4 overall you had suffered so greatly all 2015 to acquire on a .....running back

Round 6, pick No. 217: Rico Gathers, TE, Baylor - my grade was a solid F----- or a 5% out of 100%. He's a basketball player who didn't make it in the NCAA and never had played football except flag and touch football for fun. He was never a football player. He was a big plodding body with size and weak hands and zero blocking ability. Terrible project. Yes, lots of wasted picks this late in the draft, but at least please draft someone who has a halfway decent chance to make the NFL.

Spring 2016 Final grade: F- or 49.7%. (Weighted: 43.9%.)


As of today, December 12th, 2021, roughly two and a half years later. I, (millennial_messiah of DC . com ex-forum) stand by these draft grades. I wouldn't mind it if none of them remained on the team, or a small handful of them at cheap salaries.

Definitely not the Ramsey-Henry-and so on draft I had in mind that spring.

What say y'all?
No one respond to this idiot
 

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Just because you don't like what you've seen in recent weeks doesn't erase everything the players have accomplished.

Geez man, by any criteria Dak was an absolute steal as a 4th round pick. No need to even discuss the other grades, because that one is alarming.
In that draft class I had had him pegged as a Tyrod Taylor mold type of guy and given each guy's relative opportunities, I'd say that is a fairly accurate comparison. Tyrod Taylor has always been underrated and underappreciated wherever he's been. He's never played on great teams but he has led a couple not-so-good overall teams to winning seasons. He's a middling quarterback, similar to Prescott.
 

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Lol. u sound even more ridiculous and naive now than you did then. You get a starting NFL QB in round 4, an average starting CB and one of the top RB for several years. Its an A grade draft dude even if Zeke is about done and Dak only ends up being a top 12-15 QB, which is his floor. Stop making urself look so ridiculous. If those guys flame out it was still a B- draft worst case.
 

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I remember buddy, I was one of those calling u a meep. But i meant that with love and respect
 

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On the old DallasCowboys . com forum, I made a thread that reached over 180 pages in the Spring of 2016 giving the Cowboys a grade of F- for their 2016 NFL Draft performance.

I was chastised for the grade at the time by some, and applauded and commended by others. But by the end of the ensuing regular season, I was crucified for it and practically every single user on those forums made me out to be some sort of idiot by making that thread. My thread "Solid F- draft" became the brunt of jokes on the DC .com forum for a nice long while.

But, as the tried-and-true saying always goes... You have to wait 5 full years in order to fully judge a draft class. You can't judge it one way or the other after one, two, or even three years.

https://www.espn.com/blog/dallas-co...boys-draft-picks-analysis-for-every-selection

Round 1, pick No. 4: Ezekiel Elliott, RB, Ohio State - my grade was a solid F or 55% out of 100% because Ramsey, Jack and trade back were all top possibilities, DeForest Buckner and many other more impactful long-term players were on the board, and even in 2016 it was well known that you don't take a RB that high... plenty to be had in the mid rounds to replace Murray and McFadden

Round 2, pick No. 34:
Jaylon Smith, OLB, Notre Dame - my grade was an F----- or 1% out of 100% because you don't waste such a high pick on a player who will for sure miss one season, maybe more, maybe never come back, and if he does he will likely have a short and low-impact career due to the severe injury suffered

Round 3, pick No. 67: Maliek Collins, DT, Nebraska - my grade was a D+ or 68% out of 100% because though it was a position of need, there were better players on the board at the time and Collins hadn't shown that he was better than a JAG in college at Nebraska. The comments about him were not good... best case scenario he will be "clay" for Coach Rod Marinelli to "work with" at the time

Round 4, pick No. 101: Charles Tapper, DE, Oklahoma - my grade was an F--- or 30% out of 100% because despite the production in college and athletic traits, he had a known spine condition that would shorten his career. Though he might have been one of the better immediate pass rushers available so late in the draft, he was another guy like Smith who was going to be certain to miss his rookie year. You have to draft for the now in today's NFL, especially with the higher draft choices

Round 4, pick No. 135: Dak Prescott, QB, Mississippi State - my grade was a C- or a 70% out of 100% because though obviously the Cowboys needed more competition at quarterback due to the Romo injury risk, Prescott was looking like a low-rent Teddy Bridgewater or Tyrod Taylor and at best could be a bus driver who had a lot to learn before becoming a capable NFL quarterback. Not an accurate pocket passer or much pocket presence, but also not a dynamic athlete like Michael Vick or RGIII coming out of college. A developmental project QB after missing out on the top choices.

Round 6, pick No. 189: Anthony Brown, CB, Purdue - my grade was a C- or a 72% out of 100% because while he did get burnt a lot in college, his speed for his position was rare to be had in the late rounds, and I figured he could become a solid player on special teams in due time. Never would I have guessed he would actually have to be relied on at some point to start at cornerback, though Brandon Carr and Morris Claiborne as the starters weren't exactly an impressive combination either

Round 6, pick No. 212: Kavon Frazier, S, Central Michigan - my grade was a D- or a 62% out of 100% because other, more gifted players were on the board even so late in the draft. I couldn't fathom he would even be able to make an impact on special teams. Obviously, he was drafted to learn from and potentially back up Barry Church, a similar low-athleticism UDFA from the past, but the sentiment at the time was we needed an actual athlete to play that position, not another slow plodding box safety who can't cover

Round 6, pick No. 216: Darius Jackson, RB, Eastern Michigan - my grade was a B or an 84% out of because although drafting a back in the late rounds is smart, there were a few other backs with somewhat more upside than Jackson to be had in the 6th round. Still, drafting a back here is smart, but you had much better options in earlier rounds without squandering the #4 overall you had suffered so greatly all 2015 to acquire on a .....running back

Round 6, pick No. 217: Rico Gathers, TE, Baylor - my grade was a solid F----- or a 5% out of 100%. He's a basketball player who didn't make it in the NCAA and never had played football except flag and touch football for fun. He was never a football player. He was a big plodding body with size and weak hands and zero blocking ability. Terrible project. Yes, lots of wasted picks this late in the draft, but at least please draft someone who has a halfway decent chance to make the NFL.

Spring 2016 Final grade: F- or 49.7%. (Weighted: 43.9%.)


As of today, December 12th, 2021, roughly two and a half years later. I, (millennial_messiah of DC . com ex-forum) stand by these draft grades. I wouldn't mind it if none of them remained on the team, or a small handful of them at cheap salaries.

Definitely not the Ramsey-Henry-and so on draft I had in mind that spring.

What say y'all?

So.....you're looking for a cookie? I'm not sure what you're looking to accomplish aside from stroking your ego. Also, you were wrong then just as you are now. I don't know if you remember the pre-Tony days but the lack of a decent QB and RB killed this team for years. Notice how there was no such transition this time around? That alone tells me that your draft analysis wasn't very good and you should probably stick to your day job.
 

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On the old DallasCowboys . com forum, I made a thread that reached over 180 pages in the Spring of 2016 giving the Cowboys a grade of F- for their 2016 NFL Draft performance.

I was chastised for the grade at the time by some, and applauded and commended by others. But by the end of the ensuing regular season, I was crucified for it and practically every single user on those forums made me out to be some sort of idiot by making that thread. My thread "Solid F- draft" became the brunt of jokes on the DC .com forum for a nice long while.

But, as the tried-and-true saying always goes... You have to wait 5 full years in order to fully judge a draft class. You can't judge it one way or the other after one, two, or even three years.

https://www.espn.com/blog/dallas-co...boys-draft-picks-analysis-for-every-selection

Round 1, pick No. 4: Ezekiel Elliott, RB, Ohio State - my grade was a solid F or 55% out of 100% because Ramsey, Jack and trade back were all top possibilities, DeForest Buckner and many other more impactful long-term players were on the board, and even in 2016 it was well known that you don't take a RB that high... plenty to be had in the mid rounds to replace Murray and McFadden

Round 2, pick No. 34:
Jaylon Smith, OLB, Notre Dame - my grade was an F----- or 1% out of 100% because you don't waste such a high pick on a player who will for sure miss one season, maybe more, maybe never come back, and if he does he will likely have a short and low-impact career due to the severe injury suffered

Round 3, pick No. 67: Maliek Collins, DT, Nebraska - my grade was a D+ or 68% out of 100% because though it was a position of need, there were better players on the board at the time and Collins hadn't shown that he was better than a JAG in college at Nebraska. The comments about him were not good... best case scenario he will be "clay" for Coach Rod Marinelli to "work with" at the time

Round 4, pick No. 101: Charles Tapper, DE, Oklahoma - my grade was an F--- or 30% out of 100% because despite the production in college and athletic traits, he had a known spine condition that would shorten his career. Though he might have been one of the better immediate pass rushers available so late in the draft, he was another guy like Smith who was going to be certain to miss his rookie year. You have to draft for the now in today's NFL, especially with the higher draft choices

Round 4, pick No. 135: Dak Prescott, QB, Mississippi State - my grade was a C- or a 70% out of 100% because though obviously the Cowboys needed more competition at quarterback due to the Romo injury risk, Prescott was looking like a low-rent Teddy Bridgewater or Tyrod Taylor and at best could be a bus driver who had a lot to learn before becoming a capable NFL quarterback. Not an accurate pocket passer or much pocket presence, but also not a dynamic athlete like Michael Vick or RGIII coming out of college. A developmental project QB after missing out on the top choices.

Round 6, pick No. 189: Anthony Brown, CB, Purdue - my grade was a C- or a 72% out of 100% because while he did get burnt a lot in college, his speed for his position was rare to be had in the late rounds, and I figured he could become a solid player on special teams in due time. Never would I have guessed he would actually have to be relied on at some point to start at cornerback, though Brandon Carr and Morris Claiborne as the starters weren't exactly an impressive combination either

Round 6, pick No. 212: Kavon Frazier, S, Central Michigan - my grade was a D- or a 62% out of 100% because other, more gifted players were on the board even so late in the draft. I couldn't fathom he would even be able to make an impact on special teams. Obviously, he was drafted to learn from and potentially back up Barry Church, a similar low-athleticism UDFA from the past, but the sentiment at the time was we needed an actual athlete to play that position, not another slow plodding box safety who can't cover

Round 6, pick No. 216: Darius Jackson, RB, Eastern Michigan - my grade was a B or an 84% out of because although drafting a back in the late rounds is smart, there were a few other backs with somewhat more upside than Jackson to be had in the 6th round. Still, drafting a back here is smart, but you had much better options in earlier rounds without squandering the #4 overall you had suffered so greatly all 2015 to acquire on a .....running back

Round 6, pick No. 217: Rico Gathers, TE, Baylor - my grade was a solid F----- or a 5% out of 100%. He's a basketball player who didn't make it in the NCAA and never had played football except flag and touch football for fun. He was never a football player. He was a big plodding body with size and weak hands and zero blocking ability. Terrible project. Yes, lots of wasted picks this late in the draft, but at least please draft someone who has a halfway decent chance to make the NFL.

Spring 2016 Final grade: F- or 49.7%. (Weighted: 43.9%.)


As of today, December 12th, 2021, roughly two and a half years later. I, (millennial_messiah of DC . com ex-forum) stand by these draft grades. I wouldn't mind it if none of them remained on the team, or a small handful of them at cheap salaries.

Definitely not the Ramsey-Henry-and so on draft I had in mind that spring.

What say y'all?
I hope you are a man of your word if the Packers beat the Cowboys in the playoffs. :D
 

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So.....you're looking for a cookie? I'm not sure what you're looking to accomplish aside from stroking your ego. Also, you were wrong then just as you are now. I don't know if you remember the pre-Tony days but the lack of a decent QB and RB killed this team for years. Notice how there was no such transition this time around? That alone tells me that your draft analysis wasn't very good and you should probably stick to your day job.
I was a solid Spurs fan growing up and didn't follow football too ardently until about Romo's second start in the NFL. I was a Cowboys fan but I always expected them to lose and felt a bit cheated that I'd missed out on the golden era by half a generation. However, I was used to the Spurs being a consistent NBA title contender, so I had that going for me. Due to the NBA lockout in 2011 that cost the NBA about 2-3 months of the season, I became a diehard NFL fan starting in 2011, which was 11th grade for me. I stopped watching basketball after 2016 when my favorite NBA player of all time retired and things got grim and really stupid in the NBA. I hate the NBA these days and haven't watched it at all since around the 2017 playoffs. I still play for fun, though.

So yeah, I wasn't really an avid fan in the dark ages between Aikman and Romo. I was a diehard basketball loving little kid. Romo really got me into the sport.
 
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