Readers Point to Race as Reason for Cowboys Fans in Commanders Land

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Readers Point to Race as Reason for Cowboys Fans in Commanders Land

By Toni Monkovic

Two readers offered an interesting theory for the number of Cowboys fans in Commanders territory, something that has puzzled us since receiving the data from DirecTV about displaced fans.

A reader named Sam wrote:

I have heard there are so many Cowboy fans in DC for racial reasons. The Commanders were one of the last teams to integrate their teams; the Cowboys were one of the first. So many African-Americans in DC rooted for the Cowboys over the Commanders b/c they are rivals and were on opposite ends of integration.

Another reader wrote:

With regards to the Dallas fans in DC, I was surprised no one mentioned the history of the Commanders. I don’t have the names and date memorized, but I believe it’s something like this. Way back when, one of the past owners of the Washington Commanders was quite a blatant racist. He refused to sign black players, even though the NFL had long since desegregated throughout the league. The Commanders may have even been the last team to have a black player signed.

Among fans, this had two effects. The Commanders became the favorite team in many less progressive Southern areas, which at that time lacked their own pro team (now covered by Carolina). Secondly, the burgeoning African-American population of the DC area didn’t take kindly to this policy. So who to root for? How about the Commanders’ greatest rival? Given the Cowboys’ success through the 70s & 90s, and especially over the Commanders since Gibbs I era ended, that loyalty had no reason to be challenged.

I’ve lived in the DC area nearly all my life (after having been born in Texas, no less) and have also been struck by this situation. As opposed to one individual who thought the numbers could be accounted for by Texans moving up along with ex-President Bush, I can assure you there have been numerous, and very visible, Cowboys fans in DC for many years before W came around.

Many thanks for hearing me out. Again, very surprised no one posted with the above before. I encourage you to verify the details.

Thanks from a Commanders fan in Raiders territory.

Update 7:55 p.m.: KC Joyner, the Football Scientist, chimes in:

George Preston Marshall was the Commanders owner who opposed segregation. There are many stories about this but the most telling one relating to integration is told in Michael MacCambridge’s book “America’s Game”. The gist of the tale is that it took the Kennedy administration threatening potential action against Marshall before he finally capitulated and agreed to integrate the team starting in 1962.

Update, 7:59 p.m.: From the Wikipedia entry on the Commanders:
Marshall continued to refuse to integrate the team, despite pressure from the Washington Post and the federal government of the United States (a typical comment by Post writer Shirley Povich was “Jim Brown, born ineligible to play for the Commanders, integrated their end zone three times yesterday”).

On March 24, 1961, Secretary of the Interior Stewart Udall warned Marshall to hire black players or face federal retribution. For the first time in history, the federal government had attempted to desegregate a professional sports team. Finally, under threat of civil rights legal action by the Kennedy administration, which would have prevented a segregated team from playing at the new District of Columbia Stadium, as it was owned by the U.S. Department of the Interior and thus federal government property, the Commanders became the final pro football franchise to integrate, in 1962, in their second season in the stadium.


http://fifthdown.blogs.nytimes.com/...s-reason-for-cowboys-fans-in-Commanders-land/
 

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Romo2Owens4six;2602885 said:
none of those reasons are why I am a cowboy fan
But you have to admit, they are compelling.

I could never like them. Even if I grew up there, lived there all my life, and my Dad was a fan. Racism is something I will not tolerate.
 

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Hostile;2602890 said:
Racism is something I will not tolerate.

The league should take that stance and make them change their name.
 

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AbeBeta;2602894 said:
The league should take that stance and make them change their name.


We should also quit saying Merry Christmas.
 

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Interesting theory for the popularity of the Commanders in the Upper South. I wonder if the team's name being a blatant ethnic slur might also have something to do with it? In all likliehood the Cowboys' popularity is due to their success in the 70s and 90s, during which they became more than just Dallas's team, but an American cultural landmark. Remember Jackie in That 70s Show saying she dreamed of being a Dallas Cowboys Cheerleader, while deep in Packers land? Seriously, there are plenty of Skins fans of all races and there are many Cowboys fans around the nation and world.
 

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This is true. I've heard this from many older black Cowboys fans in the DC area.
 

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Hostile;2602890 said:
But you have to admit, they are compelling.

I could never like them. Even if I grew up there, lived there all my life, and my Dad was a fan. Racism is something I will not tolerate.

pretty much the story of my life lol...grew up there, lived there all my life, and my dad is a diehard skins fan. I was smart enough to not fall in that trap!
 

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Hostile;2602890 said:
But you have to admit, they are compelling.

I could never like them. Even if I grew up there, lived there all my life, and my Dad was a fan. Racism is something I will not tolerate.

true to that.
 

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Not why I'm a Dallas fan, either, but it made me hate that organization even more when I learned about G.P.M years ago.
 

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Jon88;2602895 said:
We should also quit saying Merry Christmas.

Yeah. Merry Christmas is the same as your team's name being a racial slur. Hell, even the NCAA gets it.
 

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AbeBeta;2602914 said:
Yeah. Merry Christmas is the same as your team's name being a racial slur. Hell, even the NCAA gets it.


If it's that bad then let the people that it offends get it changed. This name has been around for decades. Whenever this stupid PC movement dies out (as it might be because it isn't as bad as it used to be), hopefully it will still be there. If it offends them, then fine they can protest and get it changed. Until then, I wouldn't get offended and bent out of shape for it.
 

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Yes the 'skins were practicing Jim Crow up to the early '60s.
But lets say fans in those days were at least 20 years old in 1962.
Would that not make the youngest fans now AT LEAST 66 years of age today?

I can't believe that this aging fan base still holds sway.

Anyway, thank goodness, those days are gone. Well, with the exception of jim crow today when it comes to NFL head coaches.
 

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Jon88;2602949 said:
If it's that bad then let the people that it offends get it changed. This name has been around for decades. Whenever this stupid PC movement dies out (as it might be because it isn't as bad as it used to be), hopefully it will still be there. If it offends them, then fine they can protest and get it changed. Until then, I wouldn't get offended and bent out of shape for it.

This isn't about being "PC" - it is about naming your team a racial slur. People should have to protest in order to receive some basic level of respect for their backgrounds.
 

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GimmeTheBall!;2602966 said:
Yes the 'skins were practicing Jim Crow up to the early '60s.
But lets say fans in those days were at least 20 years old in 1962.
Would that not make the youngest fans now AT LEAST 66 years of age today?

I can't believe that this aging fan base still holds sway.

Anyway, thank goodness, those days are gone. Well, with the exception of jim crow today when it comes to NFL head coaches.
The NFL is miles ahead of the NCAA on that.
 

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Hostile;2602983 said:
The NFL is miles ahead of the NCAA on that.

Very true. The shame is that the imbalance here promotes a system where the best minority coaches prefer lower level NFL jobs because they see more opportunity. So given the choice between coaching DBs in the NFL or being a DC in the NCAA, most choose the NFL. Of course, then once in the NFL, you get into pension issues and most guys don't want to leave until they can secure that. That lack of college opportunity is really putting the NCAA in a hole.
 
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