Realistically we are 2 games back of NY Giants

[jackrussell]

Pretty sad that the division is going to be decided by them getting an extra home game.

Oh please. Like Jock Ewing told Bobby, "Noone gives you power, you take it!"

From experience(not quite as much as CB, but who does?) you've already lost when:

-You hinge your Super Bowl hopes on how good of a kicker you have.
-You start listing 101 scenarios of how you can make the playoffs.(if Philly does this and Seattle does that and Wash beats NY and the Rams beat Atl......we're in!)
-You blame the schedule makers on anything, including another team getting an extra 'home' game.
-You blame officials for anything

Dallas has had all the opportunities in the world to put a stranglehold on this division, (Seattle, Wash, NYG, Oak games) and let it slip away. To blame it on an extra home game, against the Saints for that matter, is a loser excuse.

 

[CoCo]

I tend to agree with the author of this thread. We are indeed 2 games back and will have a very difficult time winning the division.

Running the table will be difficult enough for us. Two key road games against quality competition - Skins & Carolina. No, it won't be easy.

Then we have to expect NY to lose to either Skins or Oakland while assuming a KC loss.

I think we'll have our hands full getting a wild card.

 

[CoCo]

Oh please. Like Jock Ewing told Bobby, "Noone gives you power, you take it!"


Dallas has had all the opportunities in the world to put a stranglehold on this division, (Seattle, Wash, NYG, Oak games) and let it slip away. To blame it on an extra home game, against the Saints for that matter, is a loser excuse.

Can't argue much with this. My goodness we've had opportunity's we have let slip away.

There is a lot of wisdom in Parcells credo "you are what your record says you are." There aren't many times when that is wrong.

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

Pretty sad that the division is going to be decided by them getting an extra home game.

That was my fear all along, that extra home game would be the difference.

 

[TheHustler]

You worry about the Commanders.

We've got the Giants covered.

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

Can't argue much with this. My goodness we've had opportunity's we have let slip away.

There is a lot of wisdom in Parcells credo "you are what your record says you are." There aren't many times when that is wrong.

While you have a point, I know I would prefer to play the Panthers at home, than in Charlotte.

They could easily go 1-2 in their next three games against teams we have played, we could easily go 2-0 in our common opponents.

The difference right now is they have played eight home games to our seven and beat Denver whereas we lost to them. The rest evens out.

We aren't out of it by far.

 

[AmericasTeam31]

That was my fear all along, that extra home game would be the difference.

This is the most ridiculous statement I've heard. If you don't think that NY would have stomped N.O. regardless of where they were playing. I mean if it was a close game, then I could see the arguement, but 27-10? Come on!

Bottom line, no matter what happens is that we let 3 games get away that we should have won, (Wash., Sea., and Oak.). We'd have the best record in the NFC if we win those games. We had our chances and didn't come through. Damn, we even had a chance to take the division lead in N.Y. and didn't do it. Was that because the team was thinking "this is BS, they had an extra home game...."?

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

First of all, the Saints were coming off a win in Carolina so they were not bad at the beginning of the season, and probably would have played decently in their home opener. Second, Manning had never won a game outside Giants' Stadium when he played the Saints. Third, he has only beaten the 49ers and demoralized Eagles' team on the road. Fourth, the Giants have blown games too, Minnesota at home, Seattle so it is not like we are the only team to do it. Last, my view is not more ridiculous than your's.

 

[Galian Beast]

We really just need to concentrate on winning the rest of our games. New York will likely win the division now. Unless they collapse and lose two of the next three, and we sweep.

 

[AmericasTeam31]

First of all, the Saints were coming off a win in Carolina so they were not bad at the beginning of the season, and probably would have played decently in their home opener. Second, Manning had never won a game outside Giants' Stadium when he played the Saints. Third, he has only beaten the 49ers and demoralized Eagles' team on the road. Fourth, the Giants have blown games too, Minnesota at home, Seattle so it is not like we are the only team to do it. Last, my view is not more ridiculous than your's.

But my view is that if we are blowing games, then we can't blame us not winning the division on where the Giants played a game in week 2. I don't think that it's ridiculous to say that we had 11 games since then to take control of the division and didn't. That's why we aren't gonna win without a Giants' collapse. Not an "extra home game".

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

So say for instance they go 2-5 away from Giants' Stadium and say 8-1 there (which they will be if they win on Saturday), do you not think that extra game at home was a benefit to them? The numbers say it will be huge.

Yeah sure we shot ourselves in the foot, but both teams have done that so that offsets. In the end, the difference might very well be an extra home game, a definite advantage to the Giants.

 

[AmericasTeam31]

IMO it doesn't matter... we had our chances and if we're good enough to go anywhere in the playoffs it's not gonna matter how we get there. IF we are good enough...

 

[jackrussell]

So say for instance they go 2-5 away from Giants' Stadium and say 8-1 there (which they will be if they win on Saturday), do you not think that extra game at home was a benefit to them? The numbers say it will be huge.

Yeah sure we shot ourselves in the foot, but both teams have done that so that offsets. In the end, the difference might very well be an extra home game, a definite advantage to the Giants.

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Sorry, you're thinking too much 'outside' the box. It's what's 'inside' that box that matters, the things you control. If you're a good team, let alone a great team, you handle your own business, regardless of ANY outside circumstances. If you're dependent on things beyond your control, you've already lost.

Who cares they had an extra home game, it's no worse than the times that the Giants play the Jets. Never a hubbub there.

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

The difference when the play the Jets is that the Jets still have the home crowd for the most part, and it is a pre-determined thing. This time the NFL gave the Giants an extra home game with a home crowd.

 

[StanleySpadowski]

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Sorry, you're thinking too much 'outside' the box. It's what's 'inside' that box that matters, the things you control. If you're a good team, let alone a great team, you handle your own business, regardless of ANY outside circumstances. If you're dependent on things beyond your control, you've already lost.

Who cares they had an extra home game, it's no worse than the times that the Giants play the Jets. Never a hubbub there.

The reason that there's no "hubbub" when the Giants play at the Jets or vice versa is that there isn't a hugely partisian crowd for the "away" team under those circumstances.

They may have 40%-50% of the fans at that "away" game under the best case scenario, a far cry from the 95% pro-Giants crowd against NO.


I do agree with you that Dallas could have solved this by taking care of business.

 

[jackrussell]

More fans.

Irrelevent. Quit worrying about things beyond Dallas' control. Gawd, I didn't want to use this, but here goes, "take the bull by the horns folks."

Plain and simple- If NY wins the division, it's because they siezed the opportunity, and Dallas did not. Period. Everything else is an excuse.

And we know what excuses are for, don't we?

 

[vicjagger]

The following, very possible scenario, would give Dallas the NFC East:
1) KC beats NYG
2) Dallas beats Wash
3) Wash beats NYG
4) Dallas beats STL

Nos 2, 3 & 4 are imperative. Dallas could also win the NFC East if the Giants loose to Oak instead of KC, but they would then need help in the form of wins from teams like DET, SD & KC (wins) to improve their Strength of Victory, plus losses from DEN, NO, & OAK to keep the Giants from improving their SOV.

 

[billknows]

You worry about the Commanders.

We've got the Giants covered.

Just this once,..Please

 

[playit12]

Truly, Manning is horrible. It amazes me that people fall over themselves to point out how inaccurate Michael Vick is with his 55% completion rating, but fail to notice that Manning completes 50% of his passes. This is a 50% completion rating with a 6'5" possession WR, a terrific safety valve TE and probably the best pass receiving RB in the NFL to dump it off to. And at least Vick badly misses his throws with something that resembles a spiral. But he's a drop-back QB with "Manning" in his last name, so people just think he's a surgeon back there. People think stats are misleading, but they're nowhere near as misleading as perception.

Luckily for the Giants, and unlike the Cowboys, they can get by with a running game and defense.

Came to the party late, but I thought I would throw this part out. First Vick plays in a west coast offense where QB's should be completeting 65% of their passes. Second Eli Manning has the best 4th Quarter QB rating in the league right now.

Lets not compare Vick (with 70 less yards per game and 1000 less total yards) to Eli just yet.