Reality of FA, blessing in disguise for the Cowboys

[CowboysFaninHouston]

most good players, stay with their teams, because they are proven commodity so they don't hit the market. the ones that do, either one tons of money or are older or there is something wrong.

I think half the teams will regret signing FAs they will sign. Only a few good ones will be found, most towards the end of their career or they want bookoo bucks as mentioned which will handicap your cap.

its a blessing in disguise to not have money to sign FAs because it doesn't work, outside of a team that might be a player or two away and is just filling in the last missing pieces to get over the hump.

 

[DBOY3141]

most good players, stay with their teams, because they are proven commodity so they don't hit the market. the ones that do, either one tons of money or are older or there is something wrong.

I think half the teams will regret signing FAs they will sign. Only a few good ones will be found, most towards the end of their career or they want bookoo bucks as mentioned which will handicap your cap.

its a blessing in disguise to not have money to sign FAs because it doesn't work, outside of a team that might be a player or two away and is just filling in the last missing pieces to get over the hump.

In today's NFL you have to dabble in FA. Thought I read somewhere from Adam Shefter that 15 of the 44 starters in the last SB were FA pick-ups.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

most good players, stay with their teams, because they are proven commodity so they don't hit the market. the ones that do, either one tons of money or are older or there is something wrong.

I think half the teams will regret signing FAs they will sign. Only a few good ones will be found, most towards the end of their career or they want bookoo bucks as mentioned which will handicap your cap.

its a blessing in disguise to not have money to sign FAs because it doesn't work, outside of a team that might be a player or two away and is just filling in the last missing pieces to get over the hump.

I get the general gist of what you are saying but let's take the silver lining mentality to defend our position out of the equation and be honest here...

It is not a blessing in disguise when you are strapped for Cap Cash and still not a contender.

 

[Tabascocat]

It doesn't help when they try to sign their own guys either. It is never a good thing to be strapped for cash in different scenarios in life, the options are limited.

 

[Rockport]

most good players, stay with their teams, because they are proven commodity so they don't hit the market. the ones that do, either one tons of money or are older or there is something wrong.

I think half the teams will regret signing FAs they will sign. Only a few good ones will be found, most towards the end of their career or they want bookoo bucks as mentioned which will handicap your cap.

its a blessing in disguise to not have money to sign FAs because it doesn't work, outside of a team that might be a player or two away and is just filling in the last missing pieces to get over the hump.

Some good players are released because the team can't afford to resign them. I'd love to have both Spencer and Hatcher back but Jerry's made it virtually impossible.

 

[xwalker]

most good players, stay with their teams, because they are proven commodity so they don't hit the market. the ones that do, either one tons of money or are older or there is something wrong.

I think half the teams will regret signing FAs they will sign. Only a few good ones will be found, most towards the end of their career or they want bookoo bucks as mentioned which will handicap your cap.

its a blessing in disguise to not have money to sign FAs because it doesn't work, outside of a team that might be a player or two away and is just filling in the last missing pieces to get over the hump.

1. I don't think the actual results of free agency match your theory. There are many solid free agents signed every year, but the fans generally just hear about the really big contracts and the ones that did fail get 99% of the press coverage.

2. The 2014 salary cap is not a significant issue for the Cowboys. They can free up approximately 21.5M if they restructure Carr, Witten, Free and cut or restructure Ware and Orton.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

In today's NFL you have to dabble in FA. Thought I read somewhere from Adam Shefter that 15 of the 44 starters in the last SB were FA pick-ups.

I don't disagree, but both of those teams were built through the draft. Once you have a team in place, that's close, getting FA to fill the gaps, or slightly overpaying to get over the top is fine. that's what Denver did. that's what seattle did. you can't build through FA.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

I get the general gist of what you are saying but let's take the silver lining mentality to defend our position out of the equation and be honest here...

It is not a blessing in disguise when you are strapped for Cap Cash and still not a contender.

no, I am not taking the silver lining stance because we can't. when did FA really work for us and paid off? teams are built through he draft.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

1. I don't think the actual results of free agency match your theory. There are many solid free agents signed every year, but the fans generally just hear about the really big contracts and the ones that did fail get 99% of the press coverage.

2. The 2014 salary cap is not a significant issue for the Cowboys. They can free up approximately 21.5M if they restructure Carr, Witten, Free and cut or restructure Ware and Orton.

I didn't say you don't find good FAs. Peyton manning is a great example of it working out. but a lot of them don't work and the list is very long. most of the ones that workout cost a lot. in general teams tend to keep their own elite or good players and slightly over pay so they don't hit FA market. and you can't build a team through FA. you build through the draft. you compliment and fill the gaps through FA when you are close. the 32nd ranked one of the all time worst defenses and a team with a coach on the hot seat is not close.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

no, I am not taking the silver lining stance because we can't. when did FA really work for us and paid off? teams are built through he draft.

The FA and the Draft have not paid off for us in years. Not sure it is going to suddenly be different with the same front office in charge.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

The FA and the Draft have not paid off for us in years. Not sure it is going to suddenly be different with the same front office in charge.

the draft has been better lately. we totally got screwed and fell behind during the 4 years with wade. some of the worst drafts ever in our history and we have nothing to show for it. so when our players got older, we didn't have their replacements, and we didn't have depth to provide help when there were injuries.

 

[Common Sense]

the draft has been better lately. we totally got screwed and fell behind during the 4 years with wade. some of the worst drafts ever in our history and we have nothing to show for it. so when our players got older, we didn't have their replacements, and we didn't have depth to provide help when there were injuries.

It's been better than abysmal, but recent drafts have still been pretty lacking compared to more successful teams.

 

[Kevinicus]

the draft has been better lately. we totally got screwed and fell behind during the 4 years with wade. some of the worst drafts ever in our history and we have nothing to show for it. so when our players got older, we didn't have their replacements, and we didn't have depth to provide help when there were injuries.

Outside of 2009, which was a terrible draft league wide and was screwed by the stupid trade for Williams, I don't think the drafting during Wade was really any worse than it has been under Garrett...or Parcells for that matter (the differences between 2005 and 2009 is the biggest problem). And Wade never picked in the top 10.

 

[casmith07]

most good players, stay with their teams, because they are proven commodity so they don't hit the market. the ones that do, either one tons of money or are older or there is something wrong.

I think half the teams will regret signing FAs they will sign. Only a few good ones will be found, most towards the end of their career or they want bookoo bucks as mentioned which will handicap your cap.

its a blessing in disguise to not have money to sign FAs because it doesn't work, outside of a team that might be a player or two away and is just filling in the last missing pieces to get over the hump.

This free agent class is certainly not the strongest in recent memory. Other than Henry Melton, there isn't a single free agent that I would add to this team at cost that isn't already one of our own players.

I would prefer to sign Henry Melton because you get a proven commodity at DT rather than a question mark in the NFL Draft.

 

[egn22]

I get the general gist of what you are saying but let's take the silver lining mentality to defend our position out of the equation and be honest here...

It is not a blessing in disguise when you are strapped for Cap Cash and still not a contender.

Lol great point!!!

 

[OhSnap]

Free agency has turned into a lotto bonanza for players and many of em do the same thing most people do when they win the lottery. They retire. They just go through the motions a few more years. So I think your right if it keeps you from signing one of those guys tight caps are good but handing people buttloads of cash is a crap shoot if you can't properly evaluate their character.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

It's been better than abysmal, but recent drafts have still been pretty lacking compared to more successful teams.

true. no denying that.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Outside of 2009, which was a terrible draft league wide and was screwed by the stupid trade for Williams, I don't think the drafting during Wade was really any worse than it has been under Garrett...or Parcells for that matter (the differences between 2005 and 2009 is the biggest problem). And Wade never picked in the top 10.

2010- dez Bryant, sean lee but he fell to us and would have been stupid not to take him. the team fell apart after that.
2008? jones, Jenkins, Bennett? none on the team.
2007: Anthony spencer and doug free are the only remaining and neither is earth shattering picks

not good.

2011-tyron smith, murray, dwyane harris, carter was good one year and sucked last year. I don't think he fits a 4-3 defense
2012- Claiborne, Crawford, Wilbur, too early to say good or bad
2013- fredrick is looking good, too early to tell for all others.

we drafted two OL in the first round which was a first for the cowboys. the Claiborne deal seems bad now, but at the time, seemed like a good move given how highly he was ranked.



I think overall its been much better.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

This free agent class is certainly not the strongest in recent memory. Other than Henry Melton, there isn't a single free agent that I would add to this team at cost that isn't already one of our own players.

I would prefer to sign Henry Melton because you get a proven commodity at DT rather than a question mark in the NFL Draft.

that's one of the two I like, and it fits a need.

I also like byrd,but going back to my original comment, it fits a need but costs a lot

 

[casmith07]

that's one of the two I like, and it fits a need.

I also like byrd,but going back to my original comment, it fits a need but costs a lot

Byrd wants too much. Too much for a safety, IMO.