Really, you can't pump your own gas in NJ and OR?

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a_minimalist;4694536 said:
There is no law that says you can't pump your own gas in NJ. People work there and will pump it for you but you can get out and beat them to it.

It is illegal, it's called the Retail Gasoline Dispensing Safety Act. It might be a 'blue law' kind of like jay-walking, but it is on the books carrying as much as a $500.000 fine for doing it. Corzine tried to overturn it in 2006 but was shot down.
 

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TheCount;4694440 said:
I like the part where you belittle the guy for wanting to help you out and do his job, like he wrote NJ law. :rolleyes:
Wow. Lighten up.

I would have said something similar. It's "illegal" to pump your own gas? What the hell kind of law is that?

I can't even remember the last time I've seen a full-serve gas station. Honestly, I didn't think they even still existed..anywhere.
 

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Phoenix;4694540 said:
I wasn't belittling him. I was joking with him.

Well hey, if he was laughing then it's all gravy. You didn't really make it sound that way though. The way you told it, you accused him of angling for a tip, mocked his job and questioned the basic common sense of his state while he stood there quietly after he made the mistake of letting you know you were breaking state law and wanting to do his job.
 

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vta;4694558 said:
It is illegal, it's called the Retail Gasoline Dispensing Safety Act. It might be a 'blue law' kind of like jay-walking, but it is on the books carrying as much as a $500.000 fine for doing it. Corzine tried to overturn it in 2006 but was shot down.

you are correct even when i get out of the suv people come running up when they can so the station does not get fined, they take that serious. i always give them the "whoa" no need to rush, but they have to do it and i always put it back for them so they can get to the enxt customer.

but it is illegal in jersey to pump your own gas.
 

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Dodger;4694893 said:
So what's the point of this law, anyway?

Insurance premium rates, fire hazards, the inability to enforce certain safety procedures, and to keep pregnant women from inhaling fumes, among others.

There's a List

Also part of the law it's illegal to pump gas while the car is running and the fine goes to the gas station itself I think. I can tell you, not many people shut their cars when filling. There's a sign that say's 'turn off your engine', but no one does.

I prefer to do it myself and not wait, but it's not as big a problem as it appears. Like I'd said earlier, I get out and finish it off because the attendant is usually busy with other people.
 

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Dodger;4694893 said:
So what's the point of this law, anyway?


The Retail Gasoline Dispensing Safety Act (N.J.S.A. 34:3A-4 et seq.) and Regulations (N.J.A.C. 12:196) mandates that no person dispense fuel at a gasoline station, unless that person is an attendant who has received fuel dispensing instructions. The Retail Gasoline Dispensing Safety Act also ensures compliance with appropriate safety procedures, the prohibition of the self service of gasoline and other inflammable liquids, and the installation of safety signs and equipment to enhance safety at retail gasoline stations. For more information, please call (609) 292-2096 or e-mail us at osc@dol.state.nj.us.


Who knew it was so difficult? :rolleyes:
 

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Purpose

The Retail Gasoline Dispensing Safety Act, part of the New Jersey Administrative Code, states that only trained gas station attendants may pump gas. The purpose of this law is to prevent accidents associated with untrained drivers pumping their own gas, and to increase the overall safety of gas stations. Safety concerns include not exposing customers, and especially pregnant women, to harmful toxic gasoline fumes they may inhale while pumping their own gas.


Read more: State of New Jersey Gas Laws | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/list_7240441_state-new-jersey-gas-laws.html#ixzz253YMpbHZ
 

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joseephuss;4694916 said:
Purpose

The Retail Gasoline Dispensing Safety Act, part of the New Jersey Administrative Code, states that only trained gas station attendants may pump gas. The purpose of this law is to prevent accidents associated with untrained drivers pumping their own gas, and to increase the overall safety of gas stations. Safety concerns include not exposing customers, and especially pregnant women, to harmful toxic gasoline fumes they may inhale while pumping their own gas.


Read more: State of New Jersey Gas Laws | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/list_7240441_state-new-jersey-gas-laws.html#ixzz253YMpbHZ

It's kind of funny: 'trained gas station attendants'. I didn't get much training when I was pumping gas out of high school and I doubt they get any now. :laugh2:
 

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vta;4694923 said:
It's kind of funny: 'trained gas station attendants'. I didn't get much training when I was pumping gas out of high school and I doubt they get any now. :laugh2:

What? You mean there isn't a 6 week training course? :laugh1:
 

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vta;4694558 said:
It is illegal, it's called the Retail Gasoline Dispensing Safety Act. It might be a 'blue law' kind of like jay-walking, but it is on the books carrying as much as a $500.000 fine for doing it. Corzine tried to overturn it in 2006 but was shot down.

Wow, I didn't know that. It's something I see done all of the time.
 

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interesting that 49 other states do not see the need to worry about this.
 

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burmafrd;4694944 said:
interesting that 49 other states do not see the need to worry about this.

Correction, 48. It is the same in Oregon. The impression I get at this point, is that there are too many jobs that would be lost if they got rid of the law.
 

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TheCount;4694818 said:
Well hey, if he was laughing then it's all gravy. You didn't really make it sound that way though. The way you told it, you accused him of angling for a tip, mocked his job and questioned the basic common sense of his state while he stood there quietly after he made the mistake of letting you know you were breaking state law and wanting to do his job.


You really need to lighten up.
 

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joseephuss;4694927 said:
What? You mean there isn't a 6 week training course? :laugh1:

There was some grease monkey gesturing to the cars with a wrench and grunting.
 

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a_minimalist;4694943 said:
Wow, I didn't know that. It's something I see done all of the time.

I'll occasionally do it too, if they're swamped. Normally the guy seems thankful.
 

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vta;4694910 said:
Insurance premium rates, fire hazards, the inability to enforce certain safety procedures, and to keep pregnant women from inhaling fumes, among others.

There's a List

Also part of the law it's illegal to pump gas while the car is running and the fine goes to the gas station itself I think. I can tell you, not many people shut their cars when filling. There's a sign that say's 'turn off your engine', but no one does.

I prefer to do it myself and not wait, but it's not as big a problem as it appears. Like I'd said earlier, I get out and finish it off because the attendant is usually busy with other people.

Vtwin;4694911 said:
The Retail Gasoline Dispensing Safety Act (N.J.S.A. 34:3A-4 et seq.) and Regulations (N.J.A.C. 12:196) mandates that no person dispense fuel at a gasoline station, unless that person is an attendant who has received fuel dispensing instructions. The Retail Gasoline Dispensing Safety Act also ensures compliance with appropriate safety procedures, the prohibition of the self service of gasoline and other inflammable liquids, and the installation of safety signs and equipment to enhance safety at retail gasoline stations. For more information, please call (609) 292-2096 or e-mail us at osc@dol.state.nj.us.


Who knew it was so difficult? :rolleyes:
Hmm...okay. Thanks for the info, though yeah...I didn't think dispensing gas was all that "unsafe" to the point where we need laws to regulate it.
 

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Dodger;4695073 said:
Hmm...okay. Thanks for the info, though yeah...I didn't think dispensing gas was all that "unsafe" to the point where we need laws to regulate it.

I never really thought about it before since everything here is self-service. I found a few stats. Don't really know if they mean anything or not.

http://www.nfpa.org/categoryList.as...Vehicles/Service station safety&cookie_test=1

Facts & figures

An estimated 5,020 fires and explosions occurred at public service stations per year from 2004-2008. That means that, on average, one in every 13 service stations experienced a fire. These 7,400 fires caused an annual average of two civilian deaths, 48 civilian injuries and $20 million in property damage.

Of those 5,020 fires, almost two-thirds (61%) involved vehicles. Structure fires accounted for 12% of total incidents but 59% of the direct property damage.

Twelve percent of fire incidents at service stations were outside trash or rubbish fires
 
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