RECAP: Czarkecki on GAC *Merge*

[Chocolate Lab]

The racism accusation has to be pretty well sourced for that word to get out. Czarnecki heard it was being whispered from Howie Long (whose son of course was the #2 overall pick there last year and who is close to the Rams situation) and then he checked it out some more. Czar thinks the locker room seems to be Garrett, Romo, and Witten vs. the rest. (Of course, no one on the radio show thinks Garrett is racist, and the accusation is absurd. But the rumors were out there.)

Czar thinks Devaney wanted to hire Garrett but president (part-owner?) John Shaw decided on Spagnuolo. Thinks the public perception we read about and the part above influenced the decision.

Some owners have told Czarnecki that Garrett came off in interviews as almost too smart, too polished, too self-confident.

Not sure if the Cowboys will cut TO, but the pattern emerging seems to be just like that in Philly. Wonders if the possible damaging of Garrett's reputation will sway Jerry to make a move.

The Cowboys have to be doubting Romo somewhat, only because he played so poorly down the stretch.

Galloway now reads from somewhere that Pioli is rumored to be close to a deal with Mike Shanahan at KC. Czar says Shanny told him that he was going to sit out this year unless he found a great situation, so Czar is doubtful about that story. (KC of course is awful and has no QB.)

 

[tyke1doe]

I said a while back on this board that on teams with both blacks and whites, there's going to be a racial component. That goes without saying. Blacks feel more comfortable with blacks just as whites feel more comfortable with whites.

That's not racism. That's homogeneity.

However, that can blossom into racism or negative racial overtones if players/teams aren't careful.

It is not out of the ordinary, and perfectly within the realms of human nature, for black players to perceive that white players are being treated better or are getting the benefit of the doubt because they are white.

I've seen it happen time and time again on sports team (those I've been associated with) and in group dynamics, whether work, school etc.

Some people who believe race and racism is all but gone refuse to acknowledge this dynamic at work. But black players know it exists.

Again, this is not to suggest that Garrett is a racist. But perceptions equal reality and sometimes people are blind to their biases.

You have to be careful reporting stuff such as this because it can ruin Garrett's reputation. But having said that, I don't doubt there is a perception of racial favoritism by T.O. and some other black players on the squad.

 

[Maikeru-sama]

I missed the Czarkecki interview but I did catch the segment just before Czarkecki came on.

When talking about the "racism rumor" Randy Galloway was trying to demonstrate how Terrell Owens not only effects what happens in the Cowboys Organization but other Organization as well.

Randy Galloway also stated that once the "racism rumor" got out, several hundred people called the Rams Ticket Office and voiced their dissatisfaction with the Organization interviewing Jason Garrett.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

You have to be careful reporting stuff such as this because it can ruin Garrett's reputation. But having said that, I don't doubt there is a perception of racial favoritism by T.O. and some other black players on the squad.

You're right about what you said in your post. And the part I quoted is why it's so horrible for anyone to say this about someone without concrete proof.

I'm not the biggest RJ fan, but I feel very sorry for him if this is what happened to him.

 

[ddh33]

***shaking head***

This is just awful, and it's not going to get any better as long as the same cast is in place.

 

[Rampage]

The racism accusation has to be pretty well sourced for that word to get out. Czarnecki heard it was being whispered from Howie Long (whose son of course was the #2 overall pick there last year and who is close to the Rams situation) and then he checked it out some more. Czar thinks the locker room seems to be Garrett, Romo, and Witten vs. the rest. (Of course, no one on the radio show thinks Garrett is racist, and the accusation is absurd. But the rumors were out there.)

Czar thinks Devaney wanted to hire Garrett but president (part-owner?) John Shaw decided on Spagnuolo. Thinks the public perception we read about and the part above influenced the decision.

Some owners have told Czarnecki that Garrett came off in interviews as almost too smart, too polished, too self-confident.

Not sure if the Cowboys will cut TO, but the pattern emerging seems to be just like that in Philly. Wonders if the possible damaging of Garrett's reputation will sway Jerry to make a move.

The Cowboys have to be doubting Romo somewhat, only because he played so poorly down the stretch.

Galloway now reads from somewhere that Pioli is rumored to be close to a deal with Mike Shanahan at KC. Czar says Shanny told him that he was going to sit out this year unless he found a great situation, so Czar is doubtful about that story. (KC of course is awful and has no QB.)

I agree with that. he comes off as pretty cocky to me.

 

[Tusan_Homichi]

***shaking head***

This is just awful, and it's not going to get any better as long as the same cast is in place.

It's pretty disappointing to say the least. I'm not sure what I was hoping for this off-season, but I knew I didn't want us to just stay the course.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

I agree with that. he comes off as pretty cocky to me.

He does to me, too.

Like I've said before, I much prefer the gritty guys who come up the hard way... Old-school guys like Sparano who take years to work their way up from the bottom.

 

[Rampage]

He does to me, too.

Like I've said before, I much prefer the gritty guys who come up the hard way... Old-school guys like Sparano who take years to work their way up from the bottom.

I mean if he had that same attitude and accomplished something that's one thing. but he hasn't even earned the right to be cocky.

 

[Maikeru-sama]

I mean if he had that same attitude and accomplished something that's one thing. but he hasn't even earned the right to be cocky.

Yep.

Which leaves me to wonder, what exactly has Jason Garrett accomplished?

 

[Duane]

Just wanted to say thanks for all the recaps lately CL.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Galloway now reads from somewhere that Pioli is rumored to be close to a deal with Mike Shanahan at KC. Czar says Shanny told him that he was going to sit out this year unless he found a great situation, so Czar is doubtful about that story. (KC of course is awful and has no QB.)

Oops. I guess he got that one wrong.

 

[theogt]

What racism accusation?

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Oops. I guess he got that one wrong.

I dunno, apparently Mortensen just reported that he has some very trusted sources in KC and they assure him no deal is even close with Shanny. (I have to run, but it's probably on the website by now.)

And the racism thing was reported in a column Czarnecki did a couple of days ago regarding RJ. As flimsy as it was, it was still out there apparently. Pretty sure the story is in the Daily Zone.

 

[28 Joker]

The racism accusation has to be pretty well sourced for that word to get out. Czarnecki heard it was being whispered from Howie Long (whose son of course was the #2 overall pick there last year and who is close to the Rams situation) and then he checked it out some more. Czar thinks the locker room seems to be Garrett, Romo, and Witten vs. the rest. (Of course, no one on the radio show thinks Garrett is racist, and the accusation is absurd. But the rumors were out there.)

Czar thinks Devaney wanted to hire Garrett but president (part-owner?) John Shaw decided on Spagnuolo. Thinks the public perception we read about and the part above influenced the decision.

Some owners have told Czarnecki that Garrett came off in interviews as almost too smart, too polished, too self-confident.

Not sure if the Cowboys will cut TO, but the pattern emerging seems to be just like that in Philly. Wonders if the possible damaging of Garrett's reputation will sway Jerry to make a move.

The Cowboys have to be doubting Romo somewhat, only because he played so poorly down the stretch.

Galloway now reads from somewhere that Pioli is rumored to be close to a deal with Mike Shanahan at KC. Czar says Shanny told him that he was going to sit out this year unless he found a great situation, so Czar is doubtful about that story. (KC of course is awful and has no QB.)

In my opinion, that is the what I think, too. Romo sure doesn't have many friends right now, and Owens pointed the finger at Witten during his paranoid "snitch" attack. "Drawing up secret plays..." Owens has his little minions all in place, in single file. It's the Eagles 2.0.

If Jerry Jones doesn't cut this guy, Jerry World is going to be on the back page. Oh, well. At least, I can expect to miss the playoffs this year. It's not too late to save the ship, but one more year like this, and it's search and rescue time.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I said a while back on this board that on teams with both blacks and whites, there's going to be a racial component. That goes without saying. Blacks feel more comfortable with blacks just as whites feel more comfortable with whites.

That's not racism. That's homogeneity.

However, that can blossom into racism or negative racial overtones if players/teams aren't careful.

It is not out of the ordinary, and perfectly within the realms of human nature, for black players to perceive that white players are being treated better or are getting the benefit of the doubt because they are white.

I've seen it happen time and time again on sports team (those I've been associated with) and in group dynamics, whether work, school etc.

Some people who believe race and racism is all but gone refuse to acknowledge this dynamic at work. But black players know it exists.

Again, this is not to suggest that Garrett is a racist. But perceptions equal reality and sometimes people are blind to their biases.

You have to be careful reporting stuff such as this because it can ruin Garrett's reputation. But having said that, I don't doubt there is a perception of racial favoritism by T.O. and some other black players on the squad.

Sorry but determining who you like better (or more comfortable with if you prefer) based on the color of ones skin is racism.

 

[peplaw06]

Some owners have told Czarnecki that Garrett came off in interviews as almost too smart, too polished, too self-confident.

Maybe it's just me, but that's exactly what I want.

 

[Idgit]

Sorry but determining who you like better (or more comfortable with if you prefer) based on the color of ones skin is racism.

You can feel more comfortable with someone who shares your socio-economic background, or who's a byproduct of the same kinds of social pressures you are without having it be racism. If that level of comfort correlates with skin color, so be it. If people refer to that correlation on a message board to make a point, you still know more or less what they're getting at

I happen to have a lot of doughy, white, middle-class, educated, snarky friends of European descent. It's just coincidence that most of them are white.

 

[MrMom]

What racism accusation?

+1

I've missed that.

 

[theebs]

What racism accusation?

the hard line and specifically corby davidson said that is what they were told from their sources, and yes they do have legit sources....

They said the locker room had serious racial issues.

inman roshi posted exactly what they said so you can probably find it somewhere.