RECAP: Dan Shonka (Ourlads Draft Guide) with Norm on The Ticket...

[NorthDalal]

The problem with your argument Al is that Vince Young didnt go 15 TDs and 13 picks last season like Mike Vick did. Any comparison with Vick is merely self indulgence. Vick is a small QB who wouldn't have been drafted at all if he couldn't run. He runs a 4.3 40. VY is a 6'5" guy who weighs 230 plus and runs a 4.5. Young ran at UT because they didnt have Wrs. He passed a ton to his TE because that was his best WR. His next best WR was a converted running back that had been playing the position for a part of the season.

VY went 26 TDs and 10 picks, a 65% completion percentage over 3000 yards passing with the highest QB rating in college football and that doesn't factor in his feet AT ALL.

He PASSED for 270 yards versus Ohio State's tough defense and 267 yards against USC. Those were both top 5 teams. At OSU he was forced to pass and he found a way to win.

You tell me what throw Vince can not make?

Can he make CBs come up and respect his legs?

You are old school and I can appreciate that but football has continued to evolve. VY is the next step in the evolution of the NFL QB.

He's got a strong arm and an incredible feel for the pass rush.His big passing gains have often come on balls thrown after the 4 second drop has expired.
Will he have the same advantage against NFL defenses?

VY is a tremendous athlete but has adjustments that go beyond those faced by Eli Manning and even Donovan McNabb--a player I watched extensively in college(as 'Cuse grad).

My point is VY has a pretty strong style transition to make to be sucessful in the NFL--and there's nothing "old school" about it. Quick release, throwing the "out"pattern and accuracy to lead the receiver downfield on the slant are all essential aspects to successfully beating a defense not populated by Big 12 DBs. So I think Vince is a bit of a risk as a top 10 choice--and I've got scores of hot NCAA QBs who didn't adapt to buttress the argument with.
Akili Smith, Woody Danzler, and anyone remember the Andre Ware should have been drafted in the 1st like Troy Aikman arguement? I do.

 

[dbair1967]

You are old school and I can appreciate that but football has continued to evolve. VY is the next step in the evolution of the NFL QB.

yeah...they said the same thing about David Klingler, Andre Ware, Michael Vick etc etc

as much as you want to homer for Young, you cant erase the fact that he did play in a very simplistic, school yard type spread option offense...he took virtually no snaps from directly under center...he is not experienced in making NFL reads, his passing mechanics and his footwork are poor

he is a major project and is definitely no sure thing...the odds are he will bust

David

 

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Why do many here think VY looks to run before pass? That is the real difference in VY and Vick, Young looks to pass first!

I must be wrong because many here say different, but I don't think he's as much as a "major project" as some would have us believe. Is he ready to step in day 1? I doubt it, most are not, but I don't think it will take him any longer than most and being stamped a "major project" is just poor judgment IMHO.