Receiving Group

[Cebrin]

Scheme and QB’s get WR’s open in my opinion. WR is 1 of the most overvalued positions on the field. There are plenty of teams around the league scoring and putting up plenty of passing yards with WR groups the same/if not worse than ours.

Dak has limitations, but they can be overcome imo. The real problem is the scheme/coaching. 0 creativity to get guys open quickly and in space. Bubble screens, bunch formations, rub/pick routes, and where the heck is switzer??? Between Dez, T Will, Beasley, and Switzer we should be able to move the ball down the field with a lot of YAC. Get the ball out of Dak’s hands quickly and let the WR’s make plays. And with our running game and the added threat of Dak keeping the ball spacing shouldn’t be a problem at all.

A very frustrating problem for what seems like a very easy fix on paper.

There's truth in this as well. However, you have to play the cards your dealt. This has been a dissapointing year offensively, and a lot of variables go in to it. You draft players to fit your scheme. I'm not sure they anticipated Prescott being a year one starter. Looks like they're shuffling the deck, trying to figure out how he fits in this. This year should give them more to look at.

 

[SDCowboy]

We flat out need some new WR's, period. And that includes a #1 WR prospect.

 

[Redball Express]

I've complained a lot about Dez, but the receiving group as a unit is a problem.

They had Beasley and Witten run some deep routes in the Raiders game which indicates a problem because that's obviously not their strong-suit.

I think any 1 of the group would be better if surrounded by players that make up for their limitations.

Witten - Great possession receiver but lacks speed and is surrounded by WRs that lack any elite speed/elusiveness.

Beasley - Quick but lacks deep speed or run after catch elusiveness.

TWill - Can run all the routes but struggles to catch the ball on short routes because he does not react fast enough. He's not really good at catching deep balls either. He is decent in the intermediate area but is not good on contested/jump-balls.

Dez - Limited route tree and speed but still has some quickness and jumping ability. Lack of speed needs to be offset by more speed at #2/3 WR or TE. He might be much better if they had a legit alpha-dog #1 WR and Dez was the #2 or even if they had a #2 with Tyreek Hill type of speed/elusiveness.

Basically the combo of a slow #1 TE and a slowish #1 WR is difficult to overcome, but even moreso when the #2/3 WRs are limited.

Add to the above that the RBs Morris and Smith are not speed guys and you end up with a slowish offense when Zeke is out. It's too bad Dunbar didn't develop due to injuries because he is the type of backup RB that could add legit speed to the offense either as a RB or slot WR.

Bottom line: They must add some talent at WR and/or TE and an uber speed backup RB with receiving skills could also help.

And what happened to Brice Butler?

He was supposed to be having this revenge return to Oakland.

Never saw him.

The WRs have withdrawn from helping DAK.

They seem to be more interested in blocking than pass catching.

Don't know if that is real or imagined or if they are more injured.

But the YPC is way way down.

 

[Pessimist_cowboy]

Considered a very solid WR group before this year. We have a QB with limited passing abilities.

 

[Sydla]

I refuse to throw the entire WR corps under the bus under this coaching staff.

Romo made up for a lot of the staff's shortcomings. I think Prescott's regression isn't helping either.

 

[SDCowboy]

And what happened to Brice Butler?

He was supposed to be having this revenge return to Oakland.

Never saw him.

The WRs have withdrawn from helping DAK.

They seem to be more interested in blocking than pass catching.

Don't know if that is real or imagined or if they are more injured.

But the YPC is way way down.

He was out yesterday.

 

[Sydla]

And what happened to Brice Butler?

He was supposed to be having this revenge return to Oakland.

He was too busy tweeting about how the Eagles D got beat up by the Giants.

 

[Redball Express]

He was out yesterday.

Haha..

No wonder.

Back at the jacuzzi at the Star.

 

[SDCowboy]

I refuse to throw the entire WR corps under the bus under this coaching staff.

Romo made up for a lot of the staff's shortcomings. I think Prescott's regression isn't helping either.

As bad as the coaching staff and scheme can be, that doesn't answer for the now regular drops and balls going right through receiver's hands.

 

[JeffInDC]

Beasley's quickness is negated by his predictable routes. Defenders are running the routes before he does. This is a problem.

I mean, does he NOT run a 5 yard in/out on 99% of his routes? That's scheme.

 

[Praxit]

..Bease like Dez have good hands for short yardage stuff. Dez really excels with his physical ability to break away. Williams has nice speed to accommodate slants and wideouts but at times has butter hands. Witten love the guy, but he is really limited, because lack of speed. He works well for that 8 yd gain. Butler could be the deep ball threat, but lacks the talent to hall them in. Gets lucky on occasion.

..Put it all together, it works when Dak has time to throw or running game is clicking. LB's are biting hard. When he doesnt have time, he has to force things to happen.

 

[Praxit]

Speed kills. We don’t have enough now.

..I'd rather have someone with sure hands and descent speed. Have the talent to make difficult catches.

 

[Sydla]

As bad as the coaching staff and scheme can be, that doesn't answer for the now regular drops and balls going right through receiver's hands.

The drops are a problem but its not like this has been a long term issue. Bryant, for example, has never been this bad.

I will say I'd like to see us add a nice speed guy. If we had a guy like Will Fuller, someone like that.

 

[Fla Cowpoke]

The receivers and scheme are some of the problem, but Dak is just as much if not more. He missed a lot of wide open receivers and is holding the ball a long time. He is a very limited passer right now.

 

[jobberone]

We need three receivers although one maybe even two are already here.

1. TE.....Witten needs less snaps and to be used as a possession receiver 5-7 yards at most. Maybe Hanna and/or /Rico can help as the TE1-2. I'd add a hybrid TE in the draft or possibly FA to the mix and NOT take his speed away trying to make him a complete TE. We have those already.

2. WR1.....Dez is a WR2 IMO. At least a WR1b. We need a true WR1 with speed who can run the routes and catch the ball.

3. Depth......Bees is not who I thought he was although he does take resources away from the D to cover him; a CB and a trailing LBer or S. Switzer needs another year or even two. We need a SL and/or WR3. We need to work on depth at WR4-5 but most teams do. Williams is an inconsistent WR2-3. Butler is inconsistent as well.

4. QB.....Dak needs to trust his receivers and throw into tighter windows.

5. OL.....we look pretty good here......just need to keep them together.

 

[erod]

If Dallas had Deandre Hopkins, Antonio Brown, and Odell Beckham, would it even matter?

You have to be willing to throw it.

 

[CATCH17]

We just need a speedy WR to stretch the field when needed, as well, run by defenses for those long TD's or attempts. It opens up much more possibilities.

Most likely Butler will be gone in FA. So that opens a spot for a big play fast WR.

Hanna needs more playing time. And if Rico improves even more next TC, they may have something there. They can then take a chance on drafting a TE later instead of early in the draft. I think they like what they see in Blake Jarwin as well. Use them draft picks on defense or maybe even OL.

That would help but some route combinations that aren't a 100 years old would be nice too.

Dez Bryant just needs the ball in his hands. We are terrible at just getting a WR the ball and letting them work.

 

[CATCH17]

If Dallas had Deandre Hopkins, Antonio Brown, and Odell Beckham, would it even matter?

You have to be willing to throw it.

Nope.

 

[Bleu Star]

I've complained a lot about Dez, but the receiving group as a unit is a problem.

They had Beasley and Witten run some deep routes in the Raiders game which indicates a problem because that's obviously not their strong-suit.

I think any 1 of the group would be better if surrounded by players that make up for their limitations.

Witten - Great possession receiver but lacks speed and is surrounded by WRs that lack any elite speed/elusiveness.

Beasley - Quick but lacks deep speed or run after catch elusiveness.

TWill - Can run all the routes but struggles to catch the ball on short routes because he does not react fast enough. He's not really good at catching deep balls either. He is decent in the intermediate area but is not good on contested/jump-balls.

Dez - Limited route tree and speed but still has some quickness and jumping ability. Lack of speed needs to be offset by more speed at #2/3 WR or TE. He might be much better if they had a legit alpha-dog #1 WR and Dez was the #2 or even if they had a #2 with Tyreek Hill type of speed/elusiveness.

Basically the combo of a slow #1 TE and a slowish #1 WR is difficult to overcome, but even moreso when the #2/3 WRs are limited.

Add to the above that the RBs Morris and Smith are not speed guys and you end up with a slowish offense when Zeke is out. It's too bad Dunbar didn't develop due to injuries because he is the type of backup RB that could add legit speed to the offense either as a RB or slot WR.

Bottom line: They must add some talent at WR and/or TE and an uber speed backup RB with receiving skills could also help.

I'd personally like to see more of Noah Brown #85 who actually looks like he has a clue out there.

 

[ghst187]

We were poised to win it all in 2007 until Terry Glenn got injured. With him, no way NYG beat us