Red zone problems seem to continue.

[burmafrd]

When the D knows they have nothing to fear from the run game they sell out to stop the pass. In the red zone passing is so much harder due to the confined space. So with our pathetic run game none of this should be a surprise to anyone.

 

[dallasdave]

How many years you looking for?

Yeah, we picked up where we left off last year.

 

[links18]

While I tend to believe these stats are reflective for decreased runs being predictive for decreased RZ sucess you have to consider that not being able to run makes u pass. I've seen them try to run the ball three straight times and fail enough to understand the predicament Garrett is in.

I tend to think we have a high pass rate and low RZ% because we can't run not because we don't run.

Been saying this for years.

Yeah, correlation not causation, etc. But that only begs the question of why we cannot run and why we cannot fix that year after year.

 

[dallasdave]

We can't fix the offense year after year.

 

[KJJ]

We discussed the redzone issues during the offseason and the penalties are one of the biggest issues I see besides the inability to run the ball. On opening day vs the Giants the Cowboys first drive started in the redzone after picking off Eli. After a 3 yard gain by Murray on first down Smith gets called for a false start. Instead of a 2nd and 7 the Cowboys were looking at a second and 12 which forced Romo to put the ball up the next 2 plays which led to a FG.

It seems like every time the Cowboys are in the redzone they commit some stupid pre snap penalty or have a holding call. The play calling gets more conservative in the redzone fearing a turnover. The team has more trust in Bailey than anyone on the offense. They continue trying to position themselves for FG attempts.

 

[links18]

We can't fix the offense year after year.

And yet the guy in charge of it got promoted.

 

[17yearsandcounting]

I dont want to hear about sample size. Use your eyes people. What has changed with this offense? NOTHING. NADA. Same awful plays, some pathetic execution, same stupid penalties and field goals? We love field goals. Good thing we have Callahan to sacrifice this offseason for another one of Jethro and Sons good ole boys.

 

[Vintage]

That's because our running game is a joke. For all the upgrades we supposedly made I haven't seen any improvement yet in our ability to move people up front.

When that changes we'll be a better red zone team.

Blame the scouts that recommended us spending 1st round picks on Tyron and Travis. And the GM for keeping Free, trusting Leary, and signing Bernie Mac and Waters

 

[Rockport]

Blame the scouts that recommended us spending 1st round picks on Tyron and Travis. And the GM for keeping Free, trusting Leary, and signing Bernie Mac and Waters

Of all those players you listed only Bernadeau is not worth a flip.

 

[dallasdave]

"Bernadeau is not worth a flip" now that is an understatement.

 

[Hoofbite]

Those 2 points would have been nice to have against KC. It's also gives teams a steady source of confidence to hold Dallas to fg's all the time something that can't be measured in numbers.

Provided everything else played out the same.

I was just asking even if Dallas were to dramatically improve is the team really going to be putting up a lot more points? I don't think they will. Partly because they only get 3 chances per game. Now that's not necessarily bad by itself because a home run team will have fewer Redzone trips simply because they are scoring from outside of the Redzone. Dallas however, is not a big hitter though. They have the ability to to but don't get the most out of it, IMO.

I think the Redzone problems are simply a reflection of the offense as a whole. No running threat at all and the offense bunches itself up quite often. Only real difference is that teams don't have to be too concerned with someone getting behind them so they can shut down the short-to-intermediate passing game which pretty much leaves the team with nothing.

 

[OhSnap]

I dont want to hear about sample size. Use your eyes people. What has changed with this offense? NOTHING. NADA. Same awful plays, some pathetic execution, same stupid penalties and field goals? We love field goals. Good thing we have Callahan to sacrifice this offseason for another one of Jethro and Sons good ole boys.

Actually they scored more points in the first game than they did in the first 2 games last year so proclaiming nothing has changed is short sighted at best.

 

[17yearsandcounting]

Actually they scored more points in the first game than they did in the first 2 games last year so proclaiming nothing has changed is short sighted at best.

Yeah, you must have missed the defense scoring the same amount of touchdowns as the offense.

And the 6 turnovers.


Thanks for playing.

 

[OhSnap]

Provided everything else played out the same.

I was just asking even if Dallas were to dramatically improve is the team really going to be putting up a lot more points? I don't think they will. Partly because they only get 3 chances per game. Now that's not necessarily bad by itself because a home run team will have fewer Redzone trips simply because they are scoring from outside of the Redzone. Dallas however, is not a big hitter though. They have the ability to to but don't get the most out of it, IMO.

I think the Redzone problems are simply a reflection of the offense as a whole. No running threat at all and the offense bunches itself up quite often. Only real difference is that teams don't have to be too concerned with someone getting behind them so they can shut down the short-to-intermediate passing game which pretty much leaves the team with nothing.

They already have put up allot more points than the first 2 games last year. It might not fell like it yet but the O is better, I'd just like to see this RZ thing get better.

 

[OhSnap]

Yeah, you must have missed the defense scoring the same amount of touchdowns as the offense.

And the 6 turnovers.


Thanks for playing.

It's in the rules that the team that scores the points get's to keep them even when people try to minimize a win.

 

[17yearsandcounting]

It's in the rules that the team that scores the points get's to keep them even when people try to minimize a win.

Defensive points are NOT offensive points Cheech.

 

[OhSnap]

Defensive points are NOT offensive points Cheech.

And proclaiming that nothings changed doesn't make so.

 

[CATCH17]

You guys are comical..

You think every position on the team has to be perfect for something to work.

Maybe in a Garrett offense that is true because of the lack of creativity.

As far as the run game goes I have an idea.. How about Demarco Murray makes someone miss or breaks a tackle. Or do we have to have perfect blocking as well?

 

[Dodger12]

It's gonna take a larger sample size.

So you haven't posted an opinion of how a player, team or coach will end up after 2 games? Highly doubt it and the small sample size certainly didn't keep you from commenting. But, of course, a two game sample size is enough when we're talking about another team but not when we discuss the failings of this one. I like how that works......

 

[OhSnap]

You guys are comical..

You think every position on the team has to be perfect for something to work.

Maybe in a Garrett offense that is true because of the lack of creativity.

As far as the run game goes I have an idea.. How about Demarco Murray makes someone miss or breaks a tackle. Or do we have to have perfect blocking as well?

I agree. The complete picture of Murray is becoming clear and it looks like if defenses can keep him from bouncing outside he's not that special. A one trick pony but so was Barber so they should still find a way to make it work. I just wonder if linebackers have become so fast that the running game isn't as effective in the RZ as it once was and that means the passing game has to get better inside the 20.