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Vinnie2u said:
I know that we help on the O-line. That's why the offense is so Vanila. I said the whole offense will be getting a makeover . WR, FB, TE and O-line. I think that this is Dan Campbell's contract is up too.

If you think the Boys will let Campbell get away, you're out of your mind...

It's also unlikely that Parcells will focus on adding a FB, inasmuch as his offense doesn't really call for a FB... which is not to say I'd be unhappy if the Boys added Matt Bernstein of Wisconsin or Shawn Willis of Oklahoma State, sometime on the second day, say the 5th or 6th round...
 

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Hiero said:
Would love him or Jon Scott or a few other guys. Some reason people have Winston falling a lot, but I still see him as 1st rd pick. Let him slide to us, i'd love to take him. There is going to be a lot of good tackles, so even if we dont address it 1st rd, we can still get a talent 2nd rd. Personally I'd probably draft an OT 1st rd next year.

While the Boys could use a stud OT for the future, right now they have bigger problems at C and OG... the problem is, in this draft, the tackles are the cream of the crop, so if you wanna go OL early, you really need to look at that group of blockers... the sole exceptions would be OGs Max Jean-Gilles of Georgia and Davin Joseph of Oklahoma... at C, the cream of the crop would be Mike DeGory (there are one or two rated higher, but they are Al Johnson-sized, and Parcells wants to get bigger) from Florida, who would be a second round pick, maybe a third rounder...
 

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silverbear said:
OK... Marcus McNeil, OT, Auburn...

Oooops, that didn't come out quite right, did it?? Lemme try again:

Max Jean-Gilles, OG, Georgia...

Oh dear, that's still not what you were looking for... one more time:

Mike DeGory, C, Florida...

Aw heck, I give up... :D

LOL

Like I stated elsewhere...it might be prudent to forego OT on the first day and grab LB's, Centers, OG's or CB's...I think with the depth of OT's in the draft a solid one can be grabbed on day 2
 

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Hiero said:
Add Bernstein from Wisconsin in the 5th!

A good call, but if the Boys are drafting as low in the draft order as they currently project, Bernstein will probably be off the board by the late 5th round... but who knows, perhaps a trade or two along the way could get the Boys the 4th or early 5th round pick they'd need to add Matt...
 

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Hostile said:
The guy I'd love is D'Brickashaw Ferguson but he's a top 10 pick.

Ferguson needs to add 20 pounds to be successful in the NFL... I can't understand why he'd go that high in the draft (though that is indeed where most projections have him going), when he's that small by NFL standards...

I'd LOVE Jon Scott from Texas, but he'll likely be off the board by then too...

Like I've already said, Marcus McNeil fascinates me, he's a 340 pounder who can really move for a player that big...
 

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Wolverine said:
If we get 2 top Offensive line men with are 1st and 2nd round picks it will be a great draft. Hopefully a top guard so we can dump Rivera and then a good Center.

Dump Rivera?? You're kidding, right?? Maybe the guy hasn't played up to Pro Bowl standards, but especially once he got fully recovered from his preseason injury, he has been quite good, actually... we ought to remember that he often has to give Rob Petitti help, which makes his job much tougher...

Comments like this make me think that you should replace Zimmer's picture with your own on that "Village Idiot" sig pic... but they you go and redeem yourself by saying stuff like:

We really need a Center. Gurode is extremely stupid. And Al Johnson can be manhandled by anyone just a few pounds heavier then a free safety.

That is, I think, the biggest problem we have on the OL right now (for the future)... I've already talked about how I like Mike DeGory from Florida, a 315 pounder with decent quickness, and considerable experience pass blocking in a pro-style offense... he has proven to be fairly durable (had 38 consecutive starts going into this season), and is very intelligent (which helps if you're gonna count on him to make the OL calls)...

And sometime on the second day (5th round range), I really like Ryan Cook from New Mexico... he's another durable lineman, with 47 consecutive starts listed in his bio on the Lobos' website, and he has good to excellent weight room numbers... at 6-7, he's on the tall side for a center, but he's 325 pounds plus, and ought to prove hard to move out of the middle... he has also flashed some ability to play out at RT... he's averaged 10.6 knockdown blocks per game thus far this season...
 

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Hollywood Henderson said:
Yep, T.O. would be a MUCH better signing then MEion was...

you are kidding right?

you do realize that when we signed Deion he was like 6yrs YOUNGER than TO right?

David
 

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Hostile said:
49ers signed Deion and it virtually guaranteed them a Super Bowl.

We signed him away from them, same guarantee.

TO hasn't got that kind of impact.


Uh, no. They had to cheat the cap, and get spotted 21 pts by us in the 1st 5 minutes of that NFC Championship game to get to the SB. Deion didn't guarantee them squat. They cheated some, and got lucky a lot. Cause we whipped their butts the rest of that game. :banghead:
 

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I think Ferguson shows up looking great at hte combine.
If we get a center, its got to be one unlike Al that is already strong. Degory looks like he can add a lot of size, Joseph would be a decent pick if he can add a little strength. Either way it needs to be addressed next year and we need to put al to the bench.
Rivera i dont think needs to be replaced, but we definitely need a young guy for depth behind him, and I dont mean Gurode.
Tackle still needs to be as well, so I wouldnt mind two young picks, maybe one OT one C/G guy like Degory or Joseph.
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Ferguson needs to add 20 pounds to be successful in the NFL... I can't understand why he'd go that high in the draft (though that is indeed where most projections have him going), when he's that small by NFL standards...

I'd LOVE Jon Scott from Texas, but he'll likely be off the board by then too...

Like I've already said, Marcus McNeil fascinates me, he's a 340 pounder who can really move for a player that big...
 

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Vinnie2u said:
I know everybody is sick of TO in Dallas threads but Who wouldn't like this trio lining up every game. Then you can throw in a Copper and a draft pick.
The defense got a exteme makeover this year. I think it will be the offense's
turn next year. The O-line and receivers will be where the changes will take place.

No T.O. end of story the guy is a major league punk and is a team killer. He killed the 9ers and the eagles no way do I want the same **** taking place in Dallas. To hell with his talent the punk is not worth the trouble he can cause. No one man is worth that!!!!
 

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Wolverine said:
I get pissed with how boring our offense is but then I try to remember how our OL might be one of the worse in the NFL and that is why we can not do any more then we are right now.

Now you're putting us on the same level as the Texans? :stop:

We already have a lot of money invested in the OL and we don't seem to be getting our money's worth for whatever reason. With all of the money spent we are using a backup and a rookie at the tackle positions. OT was probably the one position on the team (outside of QB) where we could least afford a season ending injury. Bad luck!

Lots of folks are thinking OL for FA and the draft. I stated elsewhere it will be a real change in philosophy for the Cowboys to use a 1st round choice on the OL. Last year only 4 teams selected OL in the 1st round.

I'm hoping Tucker and Petitti can come along and do better. Frankly, they must if we are going anywhere this year. Based upon Petitti's performance/potential, the cowboys are either going to have to make a move to upgrade the team at RT or they must try to add additional depth. I see Adams returnnig and Tucker going back to a backup status.

This is a frustrating problem and not always easy to solve. If you don't believe that, take a look at the Texans!
 

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This year's OL class is much stronger than last year's. This could be the deepest tackle draft of a really long time.
we need some help on the OL, lets hope parcells gets it.
lspain1 said:
Now you're putting us on the same level as the Texans? :stop:

We already have a lot of money invested in the OL and we don't seem to be getting our money's worth for whatever reason. With all of the money spent we are using a backup and a rookie at the tackle positions. OT was probably the one position on the team (outside of QB) where we could least afford a season ending injury. Bad luck!

Lots of folks are thinking OL for FA and the draft. I stated elsewhere it will be a real change in philosophy for the Cowboys to use a 1st round choice on the OL. Last year only 4 teams selected OL in the 1st round.

I'm hoping Tucker and Petitti can come along and do better. Frankly, they must if we are going anywhere this year. Based upon Petitti's performance/potential, the cowboys are either going to have to make a move to upgrade the team at RT or they must try to add additional depth. I see Adams returnnig and Tucker going back to a backup status.

This is a frustrating problem and not always easy to solve. If you don't believe that, take a look at the Texans!
 

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I just cant help but thinking Reggie Wayne is a product of the passing system in Indy and a product of Peyton manning.

Andre Johnson needs to realize that he will never do anything with that "NFL" franchise in Spewston and needs to come to a real football team.
 

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HeavyHitta31 said:
I just cant help but thinking Reggie Wayne is a product of the passing system in Indy and a product of Peyton manning.

Andre Johnson needs to realize that he will never do anything with that "NFL" franchise in Spewston and needs to come to a real football team.

Houston is not going to let Johnson get away from them. As for Reggie Wayne I think the guy is a very good WR and will be so no matter where he goes. He runs very good routs and has great hands
 

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Houston is not going to let Johnson get away from them. As for Reggie Wayne I think the guy is a very good WR and will be so no matter where he goes. He runs very good routs and has great hands

Wayne is going to have himself a huge payday as he is about the only marquee WR who will be available on the open market.

I would stay very very far away from him. Without Manning throwing him the football and Harrison on the opposite side, he could easily turn out to be another Alvin Harper type signing for someone.
 

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Alexander said:
Wayne is going to have himself a huge payday as he is about the only marquee WR who will be available on the open market.

I would stay very very far away from him. Without Manning throwing him the football and Harrison on the opposite side, he could easily turn out to be another Alvin Harper type signing for someone.

Harper did not have the hands of Wayne, Harper could make the difficult catch and drop easy ones. The most catches he had in 1 season 49 was with Dallas and that was Aikman throwing the ball and playing opposite of Irvin, Wayne in no way is a Alvin Harper. When watching Wayne a see a good rout running and a WR with good hands and I just think he will be a good one no matter where he goes. I will say I would not sell the farm to get him but if the price tag is within reason I would make a move to get him.
 

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I will say I would not sell the farm to get him but if the price tag is within reason I would make a move to get him.

It probably won't be. Either way you would end up overpaying.

BTW, I was not comparing the two players' skill sets. I was referring to the fact that if a team puts him as the primary receiver they are likely to be very disappointed.
 

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Alexander said:
It probably won't be. Either way you would end up overpaying.

BTW, I was not comparing the two players' skill sets. I was referring to the fact that if a team puts him as the primary receiver they are likely to be very disappointed.

As I said my personal feeling is Wayne is a very good WR and will help the WR core of the team who signes him. As for overpaying we will just have to see what the market will be.
 
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