Regular Season Wins by QB

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I found myself wondering which QBs have won the most games since Dak came into the league and how he stacked up. Here is what I found:

https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/quarterbacks-with-most-wins-since-2016

For those of you that don't want to click on the link:

#1 Brady - 67
#2 Rodgers - 55
#3 Wilson - 55
#T-4 Prescott - 49
# T-4 Big Ben - 49
# 5 Brees - 48
# 6 Mahomes (he would probably be #2 or #1 if he had started in 2016) - 46
# 7 Cousins - 45

I actually found this really interesting. Considering that Dak missed most of last season, you can assume if he had avoided injury he likely would have picked up anywhere from 5-7 more wins and would have found himself behind no one other than Brady for most QB wins since he came into the league.

What does this mean? I personally believe that you cannot judge a QB entirely off wins, but they are an indication of their ability. You see the names up there in the top 7? Those are all good QBs. Some of them the best of their generation like Rodgers and Brady. Most of the time I do not think a player finds themselves in that position on accident. Perhaps we judge Dak too harshly. The reality is the dude has won a ton of games in his first 5 seasons and finds himself positioned among the best to do it in terms of victories.

There also seems to be a prevailing opinion among Cowboys fans that we have been in an absolute dark age, but in reality we have been one of the best regular season teams of the last 5 years and even though playoff success is the ultimate measure of a team, regular season games matter. We have done this with inept coaching until recently and a deeply flawed roster most seasons. Perhaps this is the year Dallas conquers its demons.

I just wanted to put somethings into perspective and see if anyone has any takes on this.
 
Why some feel the need to compare old QB's who've been in the league well over a decade to a kid is mind boggling. If you don't like Dak, go cheer for a team whose QB you do like. It's that simple. I love the kid. He's a great leader both on & off the field. NO ONE will ever tell/convince me otherwise.
 
What does this mean? It means he is the QB of a pretty good football team that has translated to nada post season success.
 
What does this mean? It means he is the QB of a pretty good football team that has translated to nada post season success.
It means its a team stat. Unless its post season. Then its a QB stat. Right? Am I understanding this correctly?
 
Everyone on that list above besides Dak and Cousins have post season success. That's the only thing that matters.

Also, wins are a team stats.


Wins are only a team stat if it fits a specific narrative.
If they do not fit the narrative then they don't count.

Regular season games do not count as they are team wins.
Post season wins count because of the QB.

Either they count or they don't count vs the QB. Or they count and don't count as team wins.

Odd how that plays out depending on the narrative.
 
I said "wins are a team stat".

That applies to all wins and doesn't chance the fact that posts season success is all that matters.

Yet you put this in "Everyone on that list above besides Dak and Cousins have post season success. That's the only thing that matters"
Dak played very good in those game yet you add in that everyone on the list beside Dak and Cousin have post season success or do you mean then team since teams win not QB? Just confusing, on one hand it is team yet you single out Dak on lack of post season success?
 
It means its a team stat. Unless its post season. Then its a QB stat. Right? Am I understanding this correctly?
It means what it says. 49-31 in reg season.
2 NFCE titles.
postseason - 1-2. NFC title appearances. none. Superbowl appearances. none.
 
Yet you put this in "Everyone on that list above besides Dak and Cousins have post season success. That's the only thing that matters"
Dak played very good in those game yet you add in that everyone on the list beside Dak and Cousin have post season success or do you mean then team since teams win not QB? Just confusing, on one hand it is team yet you single out Dak on lack of post season success?
Dak did play pretty good in those games and we still lost. That's why wins are a team stat and not a QB stat. Do you believe Dak should be blamed of the loss against Green Bay or LA? I don't.

It's only confusing to you because you have an agenda. Maybe I should have said "Dak and Cousins are the only ones on that list that haven't lead their TEAMS to postseason success". I didn't think I needed to clarify that, but I guess I should have for some.
 
It means what it says. 49-31 in reg season.
2 NFCE titles.
postseason - 1-2. NFC title appearances. none. Superbowl appearances. none.
You didnt answer the question. Are wins a team stat or a QB stat?
 
This. However. If QBs don't get credit for Wins. They shouldn't also then conversely get all the blame for losses lol.

Exactly, but you’ll never convince fans of this. Someone will now pop in and say, ‘But you can hang the offensive production mostly on the QB.’, but that’s BS, too. There are x offensive possessions per game. When a receiver drops a 3rd down conversion and stalls a drive, it may very will cost the team a game, no matter when it occurs.

Also, when your team leads the league in penalties, it’s going to cost the team some games. Not very often that a QB gets a penalty except for grounding.

With all that said, we’re 8-4. I think only 4 teams in the NFL have a better record, and only one team has a better record by 2 games. Not sure why any of the fan base are whining like babies.
 
Dak did play pretty good in those games and we still lost. That's why wins are a team stat and not a QB stat. Do you believe Dak should be blamed of the loss against Green Bay or LA? I don't.

It's only confusing to you because you have an agenda. Maybe I should have said "Dak and Cousins are the only ones on that list that haven't lead their TEAMS to postseason success". I didn't think I needed to clarify that, but I guess I should have for some.

I have no agenda, you are upset because Dak is paid as he is. However QB as they hit FA get paid, you don't have to like it but it is what it is. Yes Dallas could go back to the days of Chad Henning, and a host of other crap QB in hopes of one day finding a QB, we have done this. Maybe you enjoyed it, I didn't. Fact is most who cover the game know that Dak is a damn good QB and any team who hope to find a QB will eventually pay that QB just as Dallas has done. Dak no longer even the 2nd highest paid QB and soon will drop further down the list yet we have people so riled up because Dak gets paid. Get over it.

Lastly I have an agenda? You use post season as saying he did not win but then claim it is team. You can't have it both ways
 

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