Remember when we thoughts Diggs was the reason we lost last year?

[blueblood70]

all act like every corner should be some big-time lockdown physical come up and play the run types that's not what Deon Sanders was asked to do, he made business decisions on a regular basis and made it to the Hall of Fame....


I know he's not Deion Sanders exactly but he does his job most of the time and we have worse things to worry about on this team than getting all over Diggs, which by the way the players need to start calling out the coaches...

I think they need to publicly say they think that the plague calls in the scheming sucks what are they going to do what is this coaching staff have they been neutered they can't do anything I would like to see them all changing the plays and really going off the deep end I'd like to see the coaches lose the team but not in a way where they play that the team just starts ignoring the coaches game plans and in the middle of the game just start playing Sandlot football and get this figured out both sides of the ball I think Prescott I mean what are you going to do Jerry says we don't want him to run what exactly are you going to do if Prescott decides he wants to run a lot in one game, you going to send him down, you benching him, are you cutting him??!!

What power does Jerry Jones and this coaching staff actually have if this team decided go full mutiny on this staff??


I mean isn't that the problem here we say that Mike McCarthy both as a head coach and more so as the offensive coordinators failing big time when you're not running the football all day long like it means something and you become one dimension on your hanging your quarterback out to dry and then you don't try to get help with your tackles or you're not locating I thought the main job is to locate the middle linebacker especially if his name is Fred Warner..

I don't get this fan base at all,


I mean which is it?!



I mean which is it you literally break these games down and you pick on the wrong players…. IMHO.



I thought that the narrative around here was that Jerry Jones and his budget basement diving for free agents, he doesn't make enough trades, he's not aggressive enough, he doesn't do enough to change the narrative on a regular basis in the offseason, then we come into that season and you act surprised when we have some attrition and a lot of injuries that there's no way to recover from it, but let's pick on the players that are just trying a little too hard because they have no choice.


How is it that you're running your fullback on 3rd and five instead of using your quarterback and the fullback in blocking some full blocking package maybe call a option play do something but that was one of the worst calls I've ever seen by a professional coach like you were going to trick somebody and then you don't even block the middle linebacker isn't that what most of the call outs are calling 54 or 55 whatever you're supposed to locate the middle linebacker especially if he's the best player on the field??

I mean you have Mike McCarthy designing high school type route trees and maybe I'm delusional saying this because it's supposed to be the West Coast offense but I've seen better stuff running by the better Texas high school teams that are competing for championships on a yearly basis… They're more creative than that, I mean when you break down the film even Troy Aikman said there's no separation, the routes are just confusing, they're too close together, they they're all in the same depth, I mean you have defenders being able to lurk around from their man and fade under and help somebody else that they weren't even supposed to help, and come underneath and get interceptions because the routes are so close together...

I mean you're going to blame Prescott for yes he was getting hit on the 1st interception he didn't get enough on it but this is because both tackles are having problems and the pressure is there almost all game, and I'm not saying it's the worst blocking I've ever seen, but on a consistent basis it's not good, and when your receivers are not getting open fast enough, or they're never open sometimes, your quarterback is just trying to give your better players an opportunity to make a play and instead you have Turpin dropping a past, Lamb never challenging the DB to avoid the INT, and when you're throwing in the tight coverage…


I know we can't blame that tight end early in the game he got his hands on it but he was double covered but the ball was thrown accurately it just wasn't caught and I'm not blaming him but I'm saying this is what the coverages look like,



anybody out here that somehow is delusional blaming Prescott and naming his $60 million contract not really looking at the fact that they have a terrible offensive play caller, terrible scheme, terrible execution by the skill players, and completely abandoning the run game is the worst run game in the NFL, and then you add in bad defense!!!



YET, somehow, we're trying to pick out certain players on the team?? when right now the main problem we have here is the coaching staff and the general manager who's unwilling to help the team.



I get it, at first, I was like yes, we do have a lot of players coming back and it is like you're bringing in new players, but it's a little late for that, you need to add on top of that a couple other players like other teams are doing, whether it works or not make an effort!!



but that's the deal somehow we're blaming the players for what everyone has said for three months that there wasn't enough done in the offseason, not enough done since the beginning of the season when these injuries started happening, and instead of going out and trying to fill those needs and right now before the trade deadline he's saying that we're OK and we're going to make a historical turn around and that might even be true we don't know there's still 10 games left..



But I can't for the life of me understand why we're picking on individual players when most of this is about the scheme or the lack of scheme the lack of adjustments and the coaches just don't have a clue on how to fix what's been broken here and some of it I don't have enough players but on offense Mike McCarthy is the most horrible play caller we've ever had!!


I didn't say it last year because I thought the first year of his offense they would have the first half of the playbook and then they would build on it and we have come into this team relatively healthy on offense we're missing Brandon cooks that's it I mean they had an opportunity to move Tyler Smith back out the left tackle and use a different left guard and then maybe put guy in that right tackle and make some moves to improve the offensive line and didn't do it they have the players on offense that they basically started with so they have no excuse on why they're so bad but when we watch the film nobody's getting open on a regular basis and when they're open the separation rates are some of the worst in football and then you have to add in what I said the scheme's horrible there's too many people close to each other I watch other teams they have guys almost at least one on every play that's almost wide open and it's up to the quarterback to get that guy the ball if he's not being pressured and running for his life..


Yes, I know that this is going to fall on deaf ears most people are not going to read it because this is my first time posting since Sunday, because I can't deal with most of the people in here and I knew I was going to go on a full rant, and I'm going to put this on every page so everyone is forced to see my rant!!


I'm forced to see them picking on players when really this starts from the top; Jerry Jones and the coaching staff first and foremost those things could have been fixed at the bye week and instead yeah Mike McCarthy lying to us the run game was working in the first half and I don't care what the score was you abandon it 56 yards by a professional team and not doing anything in the second-half it's on the coaching staff not the players it's on the coaching staff...



This has been by far the worst run game I've ever seen and it's not because the players name it's not because of Derrick Henry this is non commitment to the run game if you run the ball 25 to 30 * a game in which you need to get any kind of resemblance of a run game can wear a defense out it helps your quarterback by not having the defense be able to tee off because they know it's one dimensional.....just UGHH!!!

 

[BotchedLobotomy]

What stands out about Ferguson right now? Just curious.

I'm grading on a curve.

 

[Creeper]

I do think not having Bland is a significant issue for the defense. Whoever takes his place on the field on Sundays has been picked on repeatedly by the opposing offenses and with some success. Notice we never hear about Caelen Carson anymore? Maybe getting Bland back increases our take-aways. I don't know, but I think it is better than not having him on the field. We don't talk about it enough but it just seems like the Cowboys mishandle injuries more than any team in the league. Parsons was day to day and now he has missed 5 weeks? We still don't know if he will play this week. Bland is out longer than expected too. It always seems like injuries keep players off the field longer in Dallas than anywhere. Maybe it's the players themselves?

A problem with the Cowboys defense this year is clearly the DL. There is no pass rush, and they can't stop the run. The other night I was watching the Giants - Steelers game and I watch a guy named Armon Watts of the Giants, a 5th year 6th round DT, stand up a Steelers offensive lineman, control him and shed him to make a tackle for LOS on a run play. After the play I thought to myself, when is the last time a Cowboys DT has done that? I couldn't recall every seeing it. I think Linval Joseph has one play like that a few weeks ago, but other than that, I don't know if it has every happened. Maybe I am exaggerating but it would be an honest mistake. Our DL is as bad as it gets. QBs have too much time to throw and their throwing lanes are always open. I don't recall this either but when is the last time a defensive lineman has batted down a pass? I will give them a bit of a pass because they are missing their top 4 DEs, but still, the middle of the defense is just so pathetically weak.

This is why we are not getting turnovers. Give most QBs a lot of time and they will find an open guy for a big play.

 

[Cmac]

I'm grading on a curve.

I wish you had been my instructor/teacher/professor back in the day......We'd be talking summa cum laude.

 

[visionary]

Man how wrong we were….

How many of yall for the first time as a fan of the cowboys dispise this group of players?

Man we sat through Quincy Carter and drew henson and I’ve still never hated a team more than this group of clowns.

I think Jake Ferguson is the only player I like on this team!

Am I the only one?

Only know nothing fans thought that last year

Diggs should have been traded before his contract

 

[Proof]

I would add that by all accounts he also signed a team friendly deal.

Compare that with Martin who held the team hostage with his last minute hold out to grab more cash.

But yes, theres way to mercenary players on here rather than " team first" guys.......they emulate the owner.

i swear i don't understand how martin escapes the backlash. he's played a hand in things being where they are now, by being greedy, holding the team hostage, and underperforming. but it just gets hand waved away for some reason.

 

[Kevinicus]

Diggs is like 70th on my list of issues with the team.

 

[Cmac]

I think they need to publicly say they think that the plague calls in the scheming sucks what are they going to do what is this coaching staff have they been neutered they can't do anything I would like to see them all changing the plays and really going off the deep end I'd like to see the coaches lose the team but not in a way where they play that the team just starts ignoring the coaches game plans and in the middle of the game just start playing Sandlot football and get this figured out both sides of the ball I think Prescott I mean what are you going to do Jerry says we don't want him to run what exactly are you going to do if Prescott decides he wants to run a lot in one game, you going to send him down, you benching him, are you cutting him??!!


What power does Jerry Jones and this coaching staff actually have if this team decided go full mutiny on this staff??


I mean isn't that the problem here we say that Mike McCarthy both as a head coach and more so as the offensive coordinators failing big time when you're not running the football all day long like it means something and you become one dimension on your hanging your quarterback out to dry and then you don't try to get help with your tackles or you're not locating I thought the main job is to locate the middle linebacker especially if his name is Fred Warner..

I don't get this fan base at all,


I mean which is it?!



I mean which is it you literally break these games down and you pick on the wrong players…. IMHO.



I thought that the narrative around here was that Jerry Jones and his budget basement diving for free agents, he doesn't make enough trades, he's not aggressive enough, he doesn't do enough to change the narrative on a regular basis in the offseason, then we come into that season and you act surprised when we have some attrition and a lot of injuries that there's no way to recover from it, but let's pick on the players that are just trying a little too hard because they have no choice.


How is it that you're running your fullback on 3rd and five instead of using your quarterback and the fullback in blocking some full blocking package maybe call a option play do something but that was one of the worst calls I've ever seen by a professional coach like you were going to trick somebody and then you don't even block the middle linebacker isn't that what most of the call outs are calling 54 or 55 whatever you're supposed to locate the middle linebacker especially if he's the best player on the field??

I mean you have Mike McCarthy designing high school type route trees and maybe I'm delusional saying this because it's supposed to be the West Coast offense but I've seen better stuff running by the better Texas high school teams that are competing for championships on a yearly basis… They're more creative than that, I mean when you break down the film even Troy Aikman said there's no separation, the routes are just confusing, they're too close together, they they're all in the same depth, I mean you have defenders being able to lurk around from their man and fade under and help somebody else that they weren't even supposed to help, and come underneath and get interceptions because the routes are so close together...

I mean you're going to blame Prescott for yes he was getting hit on the 1st interception he didn't get enough on it but this is because both tackles are having problems and the pressure is there almost all game, and I'm not saying it's the worst blocking I've ever seen, but on a consistent basis it's not good, and when your receivers are not getting open fast enough, or they're never open sometimes, your quarterback is just trying to give your better players an opportunity to make a play and instead you have Turpin dropping a past, Lamb never challenging the DB to avoid the INT, and when you're throwing in the tight coverage…


I know we can't blame that tight end early in the game he got his hands on it but he was double covered but the ball was thrown accurately it just wasn't caught and I'm not blaming him but I'm saying this is what the coverages look like,



anybody out here that somehow is delusional blaming Prescott and naming his $60 million contract not really looking at the fact that they have a terrible offensive play caller, terrible scheme, terrible execution by the skill players, and completely abandoning the run game is the worst run game in the NFL, and then you add in bad defense!!!



YET, somehow, we're trying to pick out certain players on the team?? when right now the main problem we have here is the coaching staff and the general manager who's unwilling to help the team.



I get it, at first, I was like yes, we do have a lot of players coming back and it is like you're bringing in new players, but it's a little late for that, you need to add on top of that a couple other players like other teams are doing, whether it works or not make an effort!!



but that's the deal somehow we're blaming the players for what everyone has said for three months that there wasn't enough done in the offseason, not enough done since the beginning of the season when these injuries started happening, and instead of going out and trying to fill those needs and right now before the trade deadline he's saying that we're OK and we're going to make a historical turn around and that might even be true we don't know there's still 10 games left..



But I can't for the life of me understand why we're picking on individual players when most of this is about the scheme or the lack of scheme the lack of adjustments and the coaches just don't have a clue on how to fix what's been broken here and some of it I don't have enough players but on offense Mike McCarthy is the most horrible play caller we've ever had!!


I didn't say it last year because I thought the first year of his offense they would have the first half of the playbook and then they would build on it and we have come into this team relatively healthy on offense we're missing Brandon cooks that's it I mean they had an opportunity to move Tyler Smith back out the left tackle and use a different left guard and then maybe put guy in that right tackle and make some moves to improve the offensive line and didn't do it they have the players on offense that they basically started with so they have no excuse on why they're so bad but when we watch the film nobody's getting open on a regular basis and when they're open the separation rates are some of the worst in football and then you have to add in what I said the scheme's horrible there's too many people close to each other I watch other teams they have guys almost at least one on every play that's almost wide open and it's up to the quarterback to get that guy the ball if he's not being pressured and running for his life..


Yes, I know that this is going to fall on deaf ears most people are not going to read it because this is my first time posting since Sunday, because I can't deal with most of the people in here and I knew I was going to go on a full rant, and I'm going to put this on every page so everyone is forced to see my rant!!


I'm forced to see them picking on players when really this starts from the top; Jerry Jones and the coaching staff first and foremost those things could have been fixed at the bye week and instead yeah Mike McCarthy lying to us the run game was working in the first half and I don't care what the score was you abandon it 56 yards by a professional team and not doing anything in the second-half it's on the coaching staff not the players it's on the coaching staff...



This has been by far the worst run game I've ever seen and it's not because the players name it's not because of Derrick Henry this is non commitment to the run game if you run the ball 25 to 30 * a game in which you need to get any kind of resemblance of a run game can wear a defense out it helps your quarterback by not having the defense be able to tee off because they know it's one dimensional.....just UGHH!!!

Going back to Diggs and the thread.......An NFL QB enduring no pass rush will eat a CB up.....ALL DAY. I don't like Diggs tackling efforts, I don't like his actions with speedy WRs as well......but on defense.....until we can at least apply formidable pressure on a QB.........you're going to see Kirk Cousins slice & dice all game.

 

[Chasing6]

In addition to Aubrey and Ferguson, there are a handful of other players I like on this team: Bland, Osa, JLew, Tyler Smith, Martin, Bass. In a couple of years, I can see Overshown, Beebe, Liaufu, and Kneeland being added to this list. And I still like CeeDee, even though he can be a bit of a drama queen.

Martin is beyond done. GM Jethro got caught with his pants down last year.

Bass??? Does he play or is he protecting Trance on the sideline?

 

[blueblood70]

Going back to Diggs and the thread.......An NFL QB enduring no pass rush will eat a CB up.....ALL DAY. I don't like Diggs tackling efforts, I don't like his actions with speedy WRs as well......but on defense.....until we can at least apply formidable pressure on a QB.........you're going to see Kirk Cousins slice & dice all game.

Of course, that's obvious to most fans who aren't casual that the corners are being picked on because there's no pass rush very limited pass rush... That's why my rant was about the entire team there's way too many players missing on defense 4 pass rushers all four starting pass rushers a starting corner a backup corner etc

so yeah it's unfair to be picking on Trayvon diggs when he had a pretty solid game but hopefully Parsons is back I know bland looks like he's gonna be back but we need two of our pass rushers back like ASAP...

 

[blueblood70]

i swear i don't understand how martin escapes the backlash. he's played a hand in things being where they are now, by being greedy, holding the team hostage, and underperforming. but it just gets hand waved away for some reason.

I don't think he is there isn't a group on this team that can't be mentioned that's why I just might as well just say the team isn't performing well it's a team game I don't know how the quarterback keeps getting all the backlash when up front both tackles are not consistent in their getting beat a lot that's not comfortable and then you have what's supposed to be your best guard you know Hall of Fame guards not playing well and so really there's no reason to mention a single players name the team itself is underperforming some of it has to do with injuries but most of it in my opinion goes back to the coaching staff it starts with Mike McCarthy his offensive play calling and his lack of effort and commitment to the run game is historically bad and I don't know how he's lasted already Jerry Jones even mentioned it he literally said the scheming and the play calling is suspect it was a sideways remark but it was a public remark...

I mean you can blame the names on the back of the jerseys all you want for the run game I see it differently and if you take 8 minutes word for it and if you look around on games there's so many teams that there's at least one guy seems to be wide open in other people's office is the better teams the guys are just open our guys have some of the worst route trees and the worst separation I've ever seen in my life and somehow Mike McCarthy still has a job because he's also the head coach so to me he's one of the worst offensive coordinators in the league one of them is because he's not committing to the run I mean this is historically bad he's acting like he don't have enough players to do it and that's not the case he needs to stick to it I mean we've had a player Enrico play well in Pittsburgh and then Ezekiel Elliott started off that game Sunday running very well and then they just abandoned it...

To right now I'm just fed up with fans blaming this player that player picking their player they like to pick on and really if you look at it a lot of this goes back to coaching offense and defense and now special teams is lending a hand with penalties and what not and I'm just surprised that Mike McCarthy isn't fired right now..

 

[Chasing6]

Man how wrong we were….

How many of yall for the first time as a fan of the cowboys dispise this group of players?

Man we sat through Quincy Carter and drew henson and I’ve still never hated a team more than this group of clowns.

I think Jake Ferguson is the only player I like on this team!

Am I the only one?

He definitely was a reason.

 

[blueblood70]

I do think not having Bland is a significant issue for the defense. Whoever takes his place on the field on Sundays has been picked on repeatedly by the opposing offenses and with some success. Notice we never hear about Caelen Carson anymore? Maybe getting Bland back increases our take-aways. I don't know, but I think it is better than not having him on the field. We don't talk about it enough but it just seems like the Cowboys mishandle injuries more than any team in the league. Parsons was day to day and now he has missed 5 weeks? We still don't know if he will play this week. Bland is out longer than expected too. It always seems like injuries keep players off the field longer in Dallas than anywhere. Maybe it's the players themselves?

A problem with the Cowboys defense this year is clearly the DL. There is no pass rush, and they can't stop the run. The other night I was watching the Giants - Steelers game and I watch a guy named Armon Watts of the Giants, a 5th year 6th round DT, stand up a Steelers offensive lineman, control him and shed him to make a tackle for LOS on a run play. After the play I thought to myself, when is the last time a Cowboys DT has done that? I couldn't recall every seeing it. I think Linval Joseph has one play like that a few weeks ago, but other than that, I don't know if it has every happened. Maybe I am exaggerating but it would be an honest mistake. Our DL is as bad as it gets. QBs have too much time to throw and their throwing lanes are always open. I don't recall this either but when is the last time a defensive lineman has batted down a pass? I will give them a bit of a pass because they are missing their top 4 DEs, but still, the middle of the defense is just so pathetically weak.

This is why we are not getting turnovers. Give most QBs a lot of time and they will find an open guy for a big play.

because kaylene carson has not played either he's been out for like 3 weeks..LOL . I mean did you miss the fact that we're using some dude we brought off the street I can't pronounce his name yes he's been picked on but it's kinda hard to play corner when you don't have a pass rush missing for your pass rushers that you went into the season rank one through 4 on the depth chart are all not playing if you can't get regular pass rush and they can just stand back there most corners are gonna fail...

 

[MyFairLady]

You won't see much from little bro until it is time to re-up.

 

[Chasing6]

because kaylene carson has not played either he's been out for like 3 weeks..LOL . I mean did you miss the fact that we're using some dude we brought off the street I can't pronounce his name yes he's been picked on but it's kinda hard to play corner when you don't have a pass rush missing for your pass rushers that you went into the season rank one through 4 on the depth chart are all not playing if you can't get regular pass rush and they can just stand back there most corners are gonna fail...

So what your saying is it's not all Dak's fault.

 

[gtb1943]

So what your saying is it's not all Dak's fault.

he is trying to make it look like its not his fault at all

 

[Cmac]

Of course, that's obvious to most fans who aren't casual that the corners are being picked on because there's no pass rush very limited pass rush... That's why my rant was about the entire team there's way too many players missing on defense 4 pass rushers all four starting pass rushers a starting corner a backup corner etc

so yeah it's unfair to be picking on Trayvon diggs when he had a pretty solid game but hopefully Parsons is back I know bland looks like he's gonna be back but we need two of our pass rushers back like ASAP...

I'm good with that...I'm hoping something changes and I know the injury bug has stripped us of key players (Parsons/Lawrence) and we allowed defections elsewhere in the offseason. Improved trench play is the key.

 

[KJJ]

Man how wrong we were….

How many of yall for the first time as a fan of the cowboys dispise this group of players?

Man we sat through Quincy Carter and drew henson and I’ve still never hated a team more than this group of clowns.

I think Jake Ferguson is the only player I like on this team!

Am I the only one?

Don’t remember anyone thinking that. If anyone thought Diggs was going to prevent the beatdown the Packers gave us in the playoffs they were nuts.

 

[Big Country]

Aubrey for MVP..ferg comes in 2nd..the rest can go pound salt

Don’t throw away Overshown. He can be a great piece to build with.

 

[nhcowboysfan]

Martin is beyond done. GM Jethro got caught with his pants down last year.

Bass??? Does he play or is he protecting Trance on the sideline?

My point was that I like Bass even though he isn't a starter. It seems that when he plays he handles himself fairly well. I like guys that give a lot of effort even though he may not be up to the standards of a Zack Martin.