Replacing Free

If parnell shows something these next few games and the season end evaluation has him and free neck and neck or slightly behind, let free walk and find either a youngish OT to be the swing or draft one in the mid round. Sign parnell to a 3 year deal and roll with him and competition.
 
It's absolutely important to draft well. Personnel department.

But you can't draft well if your picks (talent) aren't developed well. Coaching.

That's the personnel dept. working in conjunction with coaching.
 
What do people think of sliding Martin over to RT and drafting a OG in say the 3-4th round? Personally, I'd rather he stay at OG and just dominate for 10 years, but if he has the ability to play RT on the same level as OG why not give it a shot?

Its because he doesn't have the ability to play OT nearly well as OG. I don't even think he is as good as Free as a RT in the NFL. To me its basicly spending the 16th overall pick on a downgrade from Free. Whereas he is a game changer at OG
 
I'd like to see what Free's salary demands are in the offseason. I suspect he will end up being very affordable to the point that signing him is a no brainer.
 
this injury to Free could be a blessing to this team [as already noted]. we might find our RT in Parnell.
At hte least Parnell will have good game experience going forward. I bet he plays a little better going forward.

I would like to see more consistency from Parnell but he has been a quality backup so far.
 
I don't think that has ever been the plan, except for a few posters around here.

Leave him at OG to dominate. Parnell is an adequate replacement for Free, if he doesn't come back on another big pay cut.

i agree. don't know why we would want to move a guy playing at a pro bowl level to another position. just draft a rt
i think de, dt, cb, and rt are the major needs. depending on what happens with murray rb could be on the list but you are'nt getting starter quality player at all those positions in one draft. so the plan has to be take the best player availible at one of those spots. don't reach for a de if a better cb prospect is there. and expect some of those to get done in free agency or by signing our own guys
 
Agreed. I don't understand the desire to all of a sudden create a hole at RT.

If Free, the OL and the offense were sucking, I could see it, but.......

DT is absolutely a need as we don't have a good 1T and Crawford is in his first year at 3T and a little light

We don't really have a good FS on the roster

And those are just the starters. If we want to rotate DL then we need another 3T.

LB is also a need given Lee's fragility and it is not clear if McClain will sign or even play next year

We need to resign Free and not create another hole to fill

But the question is for how much and how long? I think we can all agree that in 2 years Free will be pretty much done, and knowing that this will probably be his last chance (or close to it) at a contract he will want to get paid. We could sign him to a front loaded deal but then that really hurts our cap in the near future. Plus, some other team I'm sure will want to grab him, seeing the success of our OL this year. I agree, we should sign him, but only if it's team friendly contract, which I don't see happening. Getting plug and play tackle in the 3rd round is pretty feasible. Nobody wants to create a hole at RT, but we don't want to overpay for him either
 
Just for the sake of continuity, I think you have to try to resign Free for something reasonable. If you can't just go with Parnell, I don't think there would be much of a dropoff.
 
Just for the sake of continuity, I think you have to try to resign Free for something reasonable. If you can't just go with Parnell, I don't think there would be much of a dropoff.

Continuity should not be the issue. Jerry Jones wanted continuity with the Super Bowl teams, and they got old on him real fast.

We need to continue to get younger. Let Free move on.
 

I think it's pretty important to replace Free in next year's draft not only because his salary is unsustainable going forward, or his declining play and pass protection, but because with the success the Cowboys have had on offense due to their investment in the offensive line, teams will take note and there may be a run on offensive linemen early.
It's really difficult to say how much we should invest to replace Free.
We'll see in the next few games, but Parnell played better at RT against the Giants than many first round OTs play during their rookie year.


I think we're going to need a cornerback and a defensive end next year in addition to a right tackle. The defense needs more help right now than the offense, but imagine what another first round draft pick tackle could do on this line. It would go that much further towards helping Romo. The other problem is as I stated earlier, if we don't get a tackle (or a guard who can move to Tackle, no I don't want to move Martin), then what happens when there is a run on them early?
They're going to need to re-sign Free or Parnell. They need to win while Romo is here and shouldn't depend on a rookie OT. Also, it's a bad idea to go into the draft with a must-have positional mindset. I wouldn't rule out Weems or Hawkins as the swing OT in 2015. Don't forget they put Leary on the practice squad when he was a rookie and then he started every game in his 2nd season.

Those 3 positions are the biggest needs this team has as of right now (assuming we basically bring everyone back) (note that we need to get a punter, but that is neither here nor there).
I would say that a defensive end is obviously more valuable than a corner, so I'd probably do this.
DE, RT, CB
Obviously as it relates to who is available though.
They need to cover absolute needs by signing or re-signing free agents. BPA is the best draft strategy.

If we can improve this pass rush next year, we can ride with Scandrick, Moore, Claiborne, Patmon, 3rd round rookie CB for a year. In 2016, we can re-invest in the secondary.
Again, they finally have a decent roster. Replacing Carr with Claiborne is a questionable move. If they did cut Carr they probably need a mid-tier free agent. Free Agency comes before the draft and you can't know what you'll get in the 3rd round.

We're actually pretty well positioned in 2016; here are our free agents for 2016:
Morris Claiborne - Gone, I'd say gone in 2015, but his contract is already guaranteed. At least it will be a contract year for him next year, so we should at least get the best out of him.
Mackenzy Bernadeau - High priced backup, which is fine and good right now, but he needs to be gone. We need to home grow cheaper depth.
Jeremy Mincey - Playing great for us right now, but similarly to Bernadeau, he needs to be replaced through the draft.
Yes, maybe gone in 2016, but I see these players on the team in 2015.
 
Continuity should not be the issue. Jerry Jones wanted continuity with the Super Bowl teams, and they got old on him real fast.

We need to continue to get younger. Let Free move on.
Free is only 30. By reasonable, I mean 2-3 years. I'm not talking about signing the guy until he's 38.

And the problem with continuity then was that they instituted the cap after Troy, Aikman, Emmitt and Deion were all signed. Totally different situation.
 
But the question is for how much and how long? I think we can all agree that in 2 years Free will be pretty much done, and knowing that this will probably be his last chance (or close to it) at a contract he will want to get paid. We could sign him to a front loaded deal but then that really hurts our cap in the near future. Plus, some other team I'm sure will want to grab him, seeing the success of our OL this year. I agree, we should sign him, but only if it's team friendly contract, which I don't see happening. Getting plug and play tackle in the 3rd round is pretty feasible. Nobody wants to create a hole at RT, but we don't want to overpay for him either

I kinda disagree that Free will be "done" in two years.

I wouldn't go 4 or 5 years, but 3? Yeah, I could see that if the dollars were right.

Free is getting $3.5 mil this season and it from looking the salaries for right tackles in the NFL, I could see the Cowboys retaining him for about $4 mil per season.

http://overthecap.com/position/right-tackle/

3 years/$12 mil, with $5 mil guaranteed.
 
I think it's pretty important to replace Free in next year's draft not only because his salary is unsustainable going forward, or his declining play and pass protection, but because with the success the Cowboys have had on offense due to their investment in the offensive line, teams will take note and there may be a run on offensive linemen early.
It's really difficult to say how much we should invest to replace Free.
We'll see in the next few games, but Parnell played better at RT against the Giants than many first round OTs play during their rookie year.

I think we're going to need a cornerback and a defensive end next year in addition to a right tackle. The defense needs more help right now than the offense, but imagine what another first round draft pick tackle could do on this line. It would go that much further towards helping Romo. The other problem is as I stated earlier, if we don't get a tackle (or a guard who can move to Tackle, no I don't want to move Martin), then what happens when there is a run on them early?
They're going to need to re-sign Free or Parnell. They need to win while Romo is here and shouldn't depend on a rookie OT. Also, it's a bad idea to go into the draft with a must-have positional mindset. I wouldn't rule out Weems or Hawkins as the swing OT in 2015. Don't forget they put Leary on the practice squad when he was a rookie and then he started every game in his 2nd season.

Those 3 positions are the biggest needs this team has as of right now (assuming we basically bring everyone back) (note that we need to get a punter, but that is neither here nor there).
I would say that a defensive end is obviously more valuable than a corner, so I'd probably do this.
DE, RT, CB
Obviously as it relates to who is available though.
They need to cover absolute needs by signing or re-signing free agents. BPA is the best draft strategy.

If we can improve this pass rush next year, we can ride with Scandrick, Moore, Claiborne, Patmon, 3rd round rookie CB for a year. In 2016, we can re-invest in the secondary.
Again, they finally have a decent roster. Replacing Carr with Claiborne is a questionable move. If they did cut Carr they probably need a mid-tier free agent. Free Agency comes before the draft and you can't know what you'll get in the 3rd round.

We're actually pretty well positioned in 2016; here are our free agents for 2016:
Morris Claiborne - Gone, I'd say gone in 2015, but his contract is already guaranteed. At least it will be a contract year for him next year, so we should at least get the best out of him.
Mackenzy Bernadeau - High priced backup, which is fine and good right now, but he needs to be gone. We need to home grow cheaper depth.
Jeremy Mincey - Playing great for us right now, but similarly to Bernadeau, he needs to be replaced through the draft.
Yes, maybe gone in 2016, but I see these players on the team in 2015.

The money isn't there to sign free agents. We need to re-sign our own guys, which will be difficult enough as it is.
 
I kinda disagree that Free will be "done" in two years.

I wouldn't go 4 or 5 years, but 3? Yeah, I could see that if the dollars were right.

Free is getting $3.5 mil this season and it from looking the salaries for right tackles in the NFL, I could see the Cowboys retaining him for about $4 mil per season.

http://overthecap.com/position/right-tackle/

3 years/$12 mil, with $5 mil guaranteed.

So do we let go of Parnell then? Or sign both of them? This decision will depend heavily on Parnell's play the rest of this year. If Parnell really shows something, IMO the best bet would be to sign Parnell and let Free walk, then draft a T in maybe the 3-4th round. Keep the OL young. If Parnell shows us that he can't handle it, then resign Free for 3 years and draft a T. Either way, I'd like to see one of them signed then we draft another, but that's just me.
 
This team has luxuries in two positions this off season RT and OLB, they go after the one they really want and get if not line up the next guy. Free/Parnell and Carter/Durant I think only 2 of the aforementioned will be here next year.
 
So do we let go of Parnell then? Or sign both of them? This decision will depend heavily on Parnell's play the rest of this year. If Parnell really shows something, IMO the best bet would be to sign Parnell and let Free walk, then draft a T in maybe the 3-4th round. Keep the OL young. If Parnell shows us that he can't handle it, then resign Free for 3 years and draft a T. Either way, I'd like to see one of them signed then we draft another, but that's just me.

I don't think there's any answer that's perfect.

Yes, seeing how Parnell pans out in the next 2-3 weeks is important.

Keep Free... Let Parnell walk

Keep Parnell... Let Free walk

Let them both walk and draft an early round OT

Resign both of them

And then you have the other couple of young tackles on the roster. Do they show enough promise to be the "swing" OT next season so the Cowboys do not need feel pressured to draft an OT early?

No one has the correct answer at this point.

I would just as soon, resign Free or Parnell, hope one of the underlings can be developed into a swing OT and then draft another OT on day 3.

With the issues at DE, a potential issue at the #1 DT spot, the potential of losing Murray to FA, the potential of losing a couple of the starting LBers to FA and looking at Romo's birth certificate... I can see a lot of uses for those first 3 draft picks other than the Oline.
 
I think a lot of posters have gotten spoiled by the fact Tryon, Fred and Martin all played well as rookies. A rookie OL holding his own is the exception, not the rule even if the Cowboys have hit the winning number three times in a row. You can't count on any rookie drafted in the second half of the first round to start and play well, and you eliminate your shot at the BPA if you zero in on one position to fill.

Free isn't going to take a pay cut after a reasonably good season, and 3.5 - 4 MM per season is better spent elsewhere. Sign Parnell and see what Weems and Hawkins give next year.
 

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