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Reverend Conehead

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Many of us have wondered why the refs failed to review Dez's catch. I've wondered the same thing myself. It makes me think that maybe they should do away with booth reviews altogether (except for the automatic ones on scoring and turnovers). Instead, what if a coach retained his right to throw the challenge flag into the final two minutes of the half or the game? In the final two minutes, he retains any unused challenges, plus he gets that additional one. In other words, if he has used up his two challenges, he has 1 for the final two minutes. If he hasn't used either of his two challenges, he keeps those, plus gets the extra one and thus has three. If he's used up both his challenges and has gotten them right, thus being awarded an extra challenge, he retains that one plus gets the extra final 2-minute challenge, meaning he has 2.

Do you think this would work? I've seen it in more than one game, and not just games involving the Cowboys, in which it's, "Whadda heyah, why's the ref not reviewing this?"
 

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Many of us have wondered why the refs failed to review Dez's catch. I've wondered the same thing myself. It makes me think that maybe they should do away with booth reviews altogether (except for the automatic ones on scoring and turnovers). Instead, what if a coach retained his right to throw the challenge flag into the final two minutes of the half or the game? In the final two minutes, he retains any unused challenges, plus he gets that additional one. In other words, if he has used up his two challenges, he has 1 for the final two minutes. If he hasn't used either of his two challenges, he keeps those, plus gets the extra one and thus has three. If he's used up both his challenges and has gotten them right, thus being awarded an extra challenge, he retains that one plus gets the extra final 2-minute challenge, meaning he has 2.

Do you think this would work? I've seen it in more than one game, and not just games involving the Cowboys, in which it's, "Whadda heyah, why's the ref not reviewing this?"

Yes I think that would be a good idea. At the very least I think if there are any challenges remaining that coach should have every right to use it then. We have been burnt by this rule at least twice this year already. Dez' sideline catch in Philly and then yesterday on Dez's catch at the 6. It's absurd that they take away a coaches ability to challenge a bad call in the most crucial part of the game and then refuse to have the booth challenge it. Sure helps with the NFL;s agenda of helping to determine outcomes of games though. I hate what the NFL has become.
 

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I would like to see them do away with the 2 min booth review. Keep scoring and TO reviews and just give the coach 2 per half like normal. Keeps it simple.
 

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They said garrett asked for the challenge but in last 2 min it goes upstairs but think coach should have the right to challenge regardless if he has the timeout.

One thing I did not like was coughlin throwing the challenge flag just to argue a call that could not be reviewed I think Giants should have got a delay of game.

Last thing still trying to figure out how you have penalty but no yards for the foul. The fair catch and bobble by Brown on the kickoff is flagged for interferance but no yards? I know it is the correct call by the refs but still found it stupid.
 
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Actually, people will want to keep the booth review. What if your in the last 2 minutes of a close game and you have used up your challenges? You get a bad call against you but you can't do anything about it. Your hooped.

Keep the booth review in the last 2 minutes. Then you don't run that risk.

That being said, I can't for the life of me figure out why the Dez catch easn't at least reviewed. There many been many plays not nearly as close that have been reviewed.
 

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Actually, people will want to keep the booth review. What if your in the last 2 minutes of a close game and you have used up your challenges? You get a bad call against you but you can't do anything about it. Your hooped.

Keep the booth review in the last 2 minutes. Then you don't run that risk.

That being said, I can't for the life of me figure out why the Dez catch easn't at least reviewed. There many been many plays not nearly as close that have been reviewed.

That's why I want to add a challenge to the final two minutes. I heard another person suggest a long time ago that a coach should be able to challenge even after he's out of challenges, but if he doesn't win the challenge when he's out of them it's a 15-yard penalty.
 

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Actually, people will want to keep the booth review. What if your in the last 2 minutes of a close game and you have used up your challenges? You get a bad call against you but you can't do anything about it. Your hooped.

Keep the booth review in the last 2 minutes. Then you don't run that risk.

That being said, I can't for the life of me figure out why the Dez catch easn't at least reviewed. There many been many plays not nearly as close that have been reviewed.

Don't have any stats to back me up, but I am guessing that coaches using both their reviews does not happen very often.
 

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Last thing still trying to figure out how you have penalty but no yards for the foul. The fair catch and bobble by Brown on the kickoff is flagged for interferance but no yards? I know it is the correct call by the refs but still found it stupid.
Yes, that is a bizarre rule. The benefit of the penalty comes when the "muff" results in a turnover. The penalty would give the ball back to the receiving team.
 

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Yes, that is a bizarre rule. The benefit of the penalty comes when the "muff" results in a turnover. The penalty would give the ball back to the receiving team.

Yeah I gathered that. It still seemed strange that because of the muff by Brown for all practical purpose was open game for a big hit if he fumbled we get the ball back but no yards? I watch a lot of games and just can't recall that being called. Oh well never to old to learn something new. lol

The coughlin deal though made me PO. they need to tell a coach you throw the challenge flag and they have to stop so you can argue then you are hit with a loss of TO or delay of game. That is BS that he could throw the flag knowing he could not challenge but just to argue with the ref
 

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Yeah I gathered that. It still seemed strange that because of the muff by Brown for all practical purpose was open game for a big hit if he fumbled we get the ball back but no yards? I watch a lot of games and just can't recall that being called. Oh well never to old to learn something new. lol

The coughlin deal though made me PO. they need to tell a coach you throw the challenge flag and they have to stop so you can argue then you are hit with a loss of TO or delay of game. That is BS that he could throw the flag knowing he could not challenge but just to argue with the ref

I know. I was surprised that no penalty flag was thrown. I've seen it happen to coaches before.
 

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I know. I was surprised that no penalty flag was thrown. I've seen it happen to coaches before.

It just seems like common sense what Coughlin was doing, he chunks it out there and spends the next few minuets arguing a call. Either that should be a loss of a TO or delay of game. Hell if all a coach has to do is throw the challenge flag out to argue with a ref to and by time for his team why not do it?
 

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I know. I was surprised that no penalty flag was thrown. I've seen it happen to coaches before.

It happened to Garret for Pete's sake! He got a 15 yard penalty for challenging a turnover or score (can't remember) which are automatically reviewed. I was livid that Caughlin didn't get a penalty for that. Garret should have been all over the refs on that one.

I was also pissed that the Dez "non-catch" was not even reviewed. How many times have we seen coaches use a timeout in order to hopefully get a review in the last two minutes of a half? It's bogus that they have to do this. In our case, that didn't even work.

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Actually, people will want to keep the booth review. What if your in the last 2 minutes of a close game and you have used up your challenges? You get a bad call against you but you can't do anything about it. Your hooped.

This is exactly what happened yesterday and in the Eagles game before the half. What good is it to have a booth review if they choose not to review it? I'd rather take my chances with the challenges I do have left at least. Garrett blew a time out and still got no review.
 

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It happened to Garret for Pete's sake! He got a 15 yard penalty for challenging a turnover or score (can't remember) which are automatically reviewed. I was livid that Caughlin didn't get a penalty for that. Garret should have been all over the refs on that one.

I was also pissed that the Dez "non-catch" was not even reviewed. How many times have we seen coaches use a timeout in order to hopefully get a review in the last two minutes of a half? It's bogus that they have to do this. In our case, that didn't even work.

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That is why Garrett kept telling the officials, "he threw the flag" before play resumed. He knew it should have been a penalty because he has been penalized for it. Has anybody heard an official explanation for this non-call?
 
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