Report: Sparano Offered Miami Job

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Nors;1882067 said:
Hello?

Garrett has interviewed for a few head coaching jobs. We could lose both.

Bowles also is gone after season. Our scouting department and staff is decimated going into playoffs and our QB is off in Mexico doing National Inquirer shoots.

Just a little bit of drama there? How does the scouting dept getting raided have anything to do with the playoffs? It sucks, but shouldn't affect any run made by Dallas this year.......ASST coaches interviewing is a concern, especially the two in charge of the offense.......I'll be suprised if Garrett leaves, but agree Sporano is a goner.......I just hope he focuses on the task at hand............and I'm really starting to hate this new rule allowing assistants to interview in the bye week.
 

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Now we can promote Garrett to Asst. Head Coach the title Sporano has and give him more money to stay.
 

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Murph80;1882104 said:
Now we can promote Garrett to Asst. Head Coach the title Sporano has and give him more money to stay.
I was just about to type this. Giving Garrett an Asst. Head Coach job and giving him a raise all but gives him the HC job once Phillips leaves in a couple or a few more years. Similar to the guarantee the Commanders gave WIlliams or Saunders.
 

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theogt;1882012 said:
Not so fast on Sparano
9:58 PM Sat, Jan 05, 2008 | Permalink
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The New Haven Register, citing an unidentified source, is reporting Tony Sparano was offered and accepted the Dolphins' heading coaching job after interviewing with new general manager Jeff Ireland today.

Two problems:

1 - If Sparano accepted the position, why did he get on a plane and fly to Baltimore to interview with the Ravens later Saturday?

2 - Ireland and Bill Parcells know the rules. If they offered the job to Sparano, they would be in violation of the Rooney Rule, which states teams must interview at least one minority candidate. Sparano was the first to interview. Minnesota's Leslie Frazier, who is African American, is scheduled to interview on Monday.

Now, do I think the job eventually will be Sparano's? Yes. But Parcells went through the process of wording his contract in such a way that he could pry Ireland away from the Cowboys immediately and without compensation, so why would he blatantly violate the Rooney Rule? He wouldn't. Neither would Ireland.

I do not like the "Rooney Rule", I think the best person should be hired regardless of race. If I was Leslie Frazier I would not interview for the job seing as Tony Sparano already has the job and they would be using him (Leslie) as a token interview.

Just my 2 cents!
 

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Let them go....

They deserve it.....

I wasnt a big Sparano or Bowles fan anyways....

I trust Wade will find some good coaches......he has been in the league awhile and knows the network of good coaches.

Our secondary wasnt lighting it up in coverage anyways with Bowles as their coach and IMHO...our running game wasnt that great when it was needed.....we set up the run with the pass....

I know the Players loved Sparano......and I wish him the best....but these guys are replaceable IMHO
 

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Haha The Patriots lost more coaches and got back to the playoffs. Jerry just needs to make sure he hires good people to replace what we lost or promote from within from hopefully qualified candidates.

This happens all the time and teams some how survive
 

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joshjwc9;1882142 said:
I was just about to type this. Giving Garrett an Asst. Head Coach job and giving him a raise all but gives him the HC job once Phillips leaves in a couple or a few more years. Similar to the guarantee the Commanders gave WIlliams or Saunders.

Guarantees are not smart at all. Let's say Garrett turns in two crap seasons then Wade retires? Do you really want to stick with him then?

You can make Garrett the Assistant HC -- but I don't think the title matters. You can give him more money. But I don't think that is the issue.

All we can do is let him know how highly the organization thinks of him, discuss possible long term scenarios, make sure compensation is not an issue, and, most importantly, continue to show him day after day that he is a great fit with the team, its players, and that he can accomplish a great deal in Dallas.
 

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DaBoyz73;1882197 said:
I do not like the "Rooney Rule", I think the best person should be hired regardless of race. If I was Leslie Frazier I would not interview for the job seing as Tony Sparano already has the job and they would be using him (Leslie) as a token interview.

Just my 2 cents!

Before the Rooney Rule African American coaches weren't getting any jobs. It was clear that hiring was not occurring "regardless of race."
 

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abersonc;1882261 said:
Before the Rooney Rule African American coaches weren't getting any jobs. It was clear that hiring was not occurring "regardless of race."

But the point is Tony would be named the Phins coach right now if it was not for the Rooney Rule. While I understand that black coaches and or other coaches for different ethnic backgrounds were not getting a fair deal, I still do not believe that GMs and owners take the Rooney Rule seriously. I would not want to be used as a token piece just to fulfill a requirement, i.e., (Rooney Rule).
 

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DaBoyz73;1882326 said:
But the point is Tony would be named the Phins coach right now if it was not for the Rooney Rule. While I understand that black coaches and or other coaches for different ethnic backgrounds were not getting a fair deal, I still do not believe that GMs and owners take the Rooney Rule seriously. I would not want to be used as a token piece just to fulfill a requirement, i.e., (Rooney Rule).

if they didn't take it seriously then guys like Mike Tomlin wouldn't have HC jobs.

the "token" angle is overplayed and silly. the interviewee learns a great deal from the interview process and will interview better in the future because of it. that is an important experience and one that provides essential training. there is a huge benefit to the "token" interview.
 

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Nors;1882068 said:
Bill Parcells is making $4M a year overseeing football operations in Miami. If you have not noticed he moves real fast......

I thought the GM is suppossed to have final say in football matters?

So what exactly is Tuna overseeing?

This is so transparent it is not even funny.:rolleyes:
 

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No one has been able to show that the Rooney rule has ensured more minority hires. Who is to say that the minority coaches who have been hired would NOT have been hired without the rule?
 

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speaking of...


Rooney Rule helping minority coaching candidates
By Scott Brown
TRIBUNE-REVIEW
Thursday, January 11, 2007


How much the Steelers were aware of Mike Tomlin, who Wednesday became the fourth person to interview for their head coaching job, a month ago isn't known.
But in a Dec. 19 meeting that took place at the NFL's main office in New York, the names of 10 or 11 minorities identified as viable candidates for head coaching jobs were submitted to a group that included Steelers chairman Dan Rooney.

That Tomlin's name was on the list may have been a mild surprise, considering he's only 34 and was still in his first year as a defensive coordinator with the Minnesota Vikings.

That Rooney was in the meeting with the Fritz Pollard Alliance, which promotes minority hiring for NFL head coaching jobs, is about as much of a surprise as a Steelers sellout at Heinz Field.


Rooney, the chairman of the NFL Committee on Workplace Diversity, has been at the forefront of the movement to provide more opportunities for minorities -- so much so that the league requirement stating teams with head coaching vacancies interview at least one minority candidate is called the Rooney Rule.
That stipulation has changed the dynamic of head coaching searches. It also has been hailed as a success in diversifying NFL sidelines, particularly by officials in the alliance named after Pollard, the first black head football coach in the NFL.

There were two minority head coaches in the NFL when the Rooney Rule was enacted in December 2002. That number jumped to seven this season, though two of those coaches -- Dennis Green in Arizona and Art Shell in Oakland -- have since been fired.

"It's been excellent," Fritz Pollard Alliance chairman John Wooten said of the Rooney Rule. "The most important part of this process is the interview. Get him in the door, and it works."

The rule that bears Rooney's name got an early test when the Detroit Lions hired Steve Mariucci in 2003 without interviewing any other candidates for their head coaching job. The NFL responded by slapping the Lions with a $200,000 fine. The league, however, is powerless to prevent teams from circumventing the spirit of the Rooney Rule.

"We can't say that every team (has) applied it with the same vigor," said Cyrus Mehri, counsel for the Fritz Pollard Alliance. "We know that it was effective in many instances."

That appears to be the case with Marvin Lewis, who interviewed with the Cincinnati Bengals after the 2002 season. To some, it seemed like the Bengals interviewed Lewis just to satisfy the Rooney Rule.

"And guess what? Marvin Lewis knocked their socks off," Mehri said of the former Steelers assistant who just completed his fourth season as the Bengals head coach. "If not for the Rooney Rule, there would not be as many (minority) head coaches as there are today."

Another reason why there are more minority head coaches today, according to Baltimore Ravens general manager Ozzie Newsome, is because there are a lot more minority assistant coaches than in the past.

Kansas City coach Herm Edwards agreed.

"There were probably only 15 (minority) coaches back when I was playing, and you're talking maybe about one minority coach on each team. And some teams even had zero," said Edwards, who played in the NFL from 1977-86. "I think that now, with what has happened around the league, first off, the staffs are bigger, and a lot of the young college coaches are advancing through the proper stages of becoming coordinators. If you become a coordinator, you have the possibility of becoming a head coach."

Two of the four candidates the Steelers have interviewed to replace Bill Cowher are minorities.

In addition to Tomlin, who's black, the Steelers have talked to Chicago Bears defensive coordinator Ron Rivera, who's Hispanic.

"The one thing that has changed over the years is the number of quality minority candidates that are in the pool to be considered has grown," said Steelers president Art Rooney II, who is leading the Steelers' three-man search team. "From that standpoint, I think that's a positive and not difficult to find people who are coordinators and have the kind of experience that you want in (head coaching) positions."

The Rooney Rule also has had what might be termed as the reverse of a trickle-down effect. In helping to create more awareness of the importance of diversity, the Rooney Rule, or the spirit of it, has led to more opportunities for minorities in NFL front offices.

In addition to Newsome, there are four minorities that are either NFL general managers or hold a title that makes them a de facto general manager.

Fred Nance, a minority, also was among the five finalists that the NFL considered to succeed Paul Tagliabue as commissioner last year.

"The Rooney Rule has been one of the most important rules in professional sports in terms of racial hiring practices," said Dr. Richard Lapchick, who heads the sports business management program at Central Florida and champions racial equality in sports. "It's definitely had the effect of going beyond the head coaching position."

Lapchick said the Rooney Rule had been such a success, he's pushed the NCAA to adopt something similar for its member schools, especially in regard to the hiring of head football coaches.

When asked if the Rooney Rule has had the desired effect, Newsome said, "Are we satisfied? Yes. Can (minority hiring) be better? Sure."

The advocates of the rule point out that the biggest thing it has done is that it's given minority coaching candidates something they may not have gotten in the past: a chance.

"You don't have to hire the guy. You just ask him to interview," Edwards said, "and I think that's the right thing to do."



Scott Brown can be reached at sbrown@tribweb.com or 412-481-5432.

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/sports/steelers/s_488048.html
 

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burmafrd;1882427 said:
No one has been able to show that the Rooney rule has ensured more minority hires. Who is to say that the minority coaches who have been hired would NOT have been hired without the rule?

There you go again, asking for proof of something that you know cannot be proven to your satisfaction.
 

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abersonc;1882387 said:
if they didn't take it seriously then guys like Mike Tomlin wouldn't have HC jobs.

the "token" angle is overplayed and silly. the interviewee learns a great deal from the interview process and will interview better in the future because of it. that is an important experience and one that provides essential training. there is a huge benefit to the "token" interview.

I don't think the token angle is overplayed. Regardless of how it is sugarcoated I still believe that the process is unfair. IMO
 

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Really balanced article. Did not have any arguement against it. Typical of so called journalism today.
 

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burmafrd;1882481 said:
Really balanced article. Did not have any arguement against it. Typical of so called journalism today.

it's a news article, not a debate.
 
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