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[Manwiththeplan]

Baylor has produced three first round picks in the last two seasons and is projected to produce as many as three next year.

This is just not true. Baylor produced 2 first round picks last year and zero the year before. If you go back 3 years, then you get your thrird first rounder, but Jason Smith is a bust (Danny Watkins is definately walking down that path).

And Phil Taylor was a transfer after getting kicked out of Penn State.

 

[Aikbach]

This is just not true. Baylor produced 2 first round picks last year and zero the year before. If you go back 3 years, then you get your thrird first rounder, but Jason Smith is a bust (Danny Watkins is definately walking down that path).

And Phil Taylor was a transfer after getting kicked out of Penn State.

Opps, my bad Smith went in 2009 instead of 2010, someone cry about it, fact is three first round picks in three drafts is impressive.

Jason Smith was drafted in 2009 you bonehead so he's played two seasons and three games, it really doesn't matter how you seem to judge players that were drafted a mere year or two ago, way to not make an argument worth spit.

You really are going to ***** about a transfer? Talk about clasping at straws.
Perhaps if you spent less time being argumentative and looking at what was said you could avoid posting contrarily nonsense that edified no one.

Fact is three Baylor first rounders in the past two years, three drafts,

 

[DIAF]

I am not all that impressed either. I mean, I AM impressed, just not to OMGGETHYPE levels. Baylor's schedule from here on out is not-so-easy. I doubt very seriously Robert Griffin III is going to be near the top of the Heisman watch for much longer.

What are this guy's pro prospects?

 

[Aikbach]

I am not all that impressed either. I mean, I AM impressed, just not to OMGGETHYPE levels. Baylor's schedule from here on out is not-so-easy. I doubt very seriously Robert Griffin III is going to be near the top of the Heisman watch for much longer.

What are this guy's pro prospects?

he's likely to stay at Baylor for his last year of eligibility to pursue a law degree. He's projected as high as top 10 pick by some if he came out.

 

[UnoDallas]

he's likely to stay at Baylor for his last year of eligibility to pursue a law degree. He's projected as high as top 10 pick by some if he came out.

Robert Griffin*, III QB, Baylor
Height: 6-2. Weight: 220.
Projected 40 Time: 4.42.
Projected Round (2012): 3-4.

9/7/11: Griffin was the star of the opening week in college football, completing 21-of-29 passes for 359 yards and five touchdowns. He also ran for 38 yards and made a clutch catch for 15 yards in the fourth quarter. Griffin displayed a strong arm, with good mobility and was very accurate on passes downfield. TCU's defense was incapable of stopping him, and Griffin enjoyed a coming-out party nationally. He needs more work as a passer, but is showing some developmental talent to evaluators

 

[DIAF]

Robert Griffin*, III QB, Baylor
Height: 6-2. Weight: 220.
Projected 40 Time: 4.42.
Projected Round (2012): 3-4.

9/7/11: Griffin was the star of the opening week in college football, completing 21-of-29 passes for 359 yards and five touchdowns. He also ran for 38 yards and made a clutch catch for 15 yards in the fourth quarter. Griffin displayed a strong arm, with good mobility and was very accurate on passes downfield. TCU's defense was incapable of stopping him, and Griffin enjoyed a coming-out party nationally. He needs more work as a passer, but is showing some developmental talent to evaluators

I guess "top 10 pick" was a bit of wishful thinking at this point, lol

 

[Aikbach]

I guess "top 10 pick" was a bit of wishful thinking at this point, lol

Seeming that was week one and universally now he is rated in the top five for the Heisman race, number one in some polls and editorials, and has the unheard of numbers of 13 td passes to zero interception and 12 incompletions in 2 and half ball games, it's safe to say he's on the national radar and of NFL scouts.

Uno is the dunderhead that actually started a thread a few days back race baiting about Griffin saying he was not a good quarterback because of the pigmentation of his skin, the moderators thoughtfully removed the tripe so consider who you're agreeing with.

http://espn.go.com/blog/statsinfo/post/_/id/27294/griffin-throws-himself-into-heisman-race

 

[DIAF]

Seeming that was week one and universally now he is rated in the top five for the Heisman race, number one in some polls and editorials, and has the unheard of numbers of 13 td passes to zero interception and 12 incompletions in 2 and half ball games, it's safe to say he's on the national radar and of NFL scouts.

Uno is the dunderhead that actually started a thread a few days back race baiting about Griffin saying he was not a good quarterback because of the pigmentation of his skin, the moderators thoughtfully removed the tripe so consider who you're agreeing with.

http://espn.go.com/blog/statsinfo/post/_/id/27294/griffin-throws-himself-into-heisman-race

As I am sure you are well aware, being in the Heisman race (especially for a QB) does not signify being a great pro prospect. Being on the "radar" and being a "top 10 pick according to some" are vastly different things. Looks like this guy is a 3rd or 4th rounder according to most right now.

Im sorry, man, but no matter how much you love Baylor, it doesn't mean Robert Griffin III is going to be a 1st round grade player.

Why would I care about this uno business? Maybe you should take that up with uno in a PM or something :S

 

[Aikbach]

As I am sure you are well aware, being in the Heisman race (especially for a QB) does not signify being a great pro prospect. Being on the "radar" and being a "top 10 pick according to some" are vastly different things. Looks like this guy is a 3rd or 4th rounder according to most right now.

Im sorry, man, but no matter how much you love Baylor, it doesn't mean Robert Griffin III is going to be a 1st round grade player.

Why would I care about this uno business? Maybe you should take that up with uno in a PM or something :S

He's not coming out period next season, he's going for a JD it looks like, just because there's a prognostication in writing about someone's projected draft position that was basically written pre-season and talking heads have said this, that and the other doesn't make any prognostication more valid than the other, it's just chatter and conjecture, but increasingly more positive as now the top tier chatter has begun for him.

It's pretty clear RG3 isn't Danny Weurful or Shane Matthews or Reggie McNeil or Michael Bishop.

I was just pointing out Uno has an axe to grind of a prejudice nature unfortunately, the guy is actually racially bigoted against black quarterbacks.

 

[Aikbach]

Additional mock drafts and talking heads prognosticate him as top ten and even first round before the season on the second link:
http://www.rantsports.com/mock-draft/2011/09/06/week-1-college-football-stock-up-stock-down/

http://nflmocks.com/2011/09/02/week-1-college-football-games-of-the-week/

http://www.footballmockery.com/2011/09/sept-4-blog-update.html

A couple of mock drafts him in the top ten as well
http://www.footballmockery.com/p/2012-mock-draft.html

 

[DIAF]

Additional mock drafts and talking heads prognosticate him as top ten and even first round before the season on the second link:
http://www.rantsports.com/mock-draft/2011/09/06/week-1-college-football-stock-up-stock-down/

http://nflmocks.com/2011/09/02/week-1-college-football-games-of-the-week/

http://www.footballmockery.com/2011/09/sept-4-blog-update.html

A couple of mock drafts him in the top ten as well
http://www.footballmockery.com/p/2012-mock-draft.html

I don't mean to be too dismissive, but both of your first two links were written by the same author. And the mock in that last link looks to be some random dude's draftsite. It might as well be BleacherReport.

When some actual talent evaluators chime in, I guess I'll start listening.

 

[Aikbach]

I don't mean to be too dismissive, but both of your first two links were written by the same author. And the mock in that last link looks to be some random dude's draftsite. It might as well be BleacherReport.

When some actual talent evaluators chime in, I guess I'll start listening.

Ask and you shall receive, second question discussed down with Mel Kiper:
http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/chat/_/id/40103

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

Ask and you shall receive, second question discussed down with Mel Kiper:
http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/chat/_/id/40103

Just curious as this debate between you two has taken turns.

Is the parameter of the debate that he will be (on your end) a high end first rounder, just a first rounder or on the other posters end a 3rd or 4th rounder?

I ask this because that link you gave with the Kiper Chat does not really support either argument as a whole as he never gives a potential round...it just says he is probably the 4th best prospect. He could fall into the second round (high or low) and both of you would be wrong.

I hope he continues to do well as he has been playing lights out. But I also realize a few things about college QBs...Start of the season and come draft time a QB can greatly move up or down a draft chart.

 

[Aikbach]

Just curious as this debate between you two has taken turns.

Is the parameter of the debate that he will be (on your end) a high end first rounder, just a first rounder or on the other posters end a 3rd or 4th rounder?

I ask this because that link you gave with the Kiper Chat does not really support either argument as a whole as he never gives a potential round...it just says he is probably the 4th best prospect. He could fall into the second round (high or low) and both of you would be wrong.

I hope he continues to do well as he has been playing lights out. But I also realize a few things about college QBs...Start of the season and come draft time a QB can greatly move up or down a draft chart.

The point is the unsited 3rd or 4th round projection that was clearly made preseason and brought forth by a poster that previously made a thread about the ineptitude of said quarterback's skin pigment, has been clearly shown to not be the definitive and growing opinion by many of these professional conjecture makers we all like to talk about for fun, Kiper recently on ESPn was talking about RG3 running up his draft board with a chance to hit the top 10, Coach Jimmy Johnson tweeted the other day he was the most impressive player he's seen.

In a world of as many outlets as there are opinions I was just demonstrating it was a bit silly to say "Oh someone cut and paste a third and fourth round projection (from a poster with a skewed agenda at that), that's the end of the discussion then, he couldn't possibly be spoken of by many as a franchise quarterback."

He plays for a small private school that has struggled for the past decade so his rise is always going to be tougher, I'm simply pointing that the talk has now changed from great athlete to true NFL quarterback in the breath of Luck and Moore and that momentum is growing.

 

[kTXe]

Jason Smith was drafted in 2009 you bonehead so he's played two seasons and three games, it really doesn't matter how you seem to judge players that were drafted a mere year or two ago, way to not make an argument worth spit.

Your standards must be pretty damn low to not consider Jason Smith a bust.

The kid was supposed to be a prototype LT, but he has already been moved to RT and was even pulled for his crappy performance last game.

You've managed to take a thread that you (rightfully) started to praise Griffin and turned it into a screaming rant defending all things related to Baylor football.

I don't have a horse in any of these arguments, but I can definitely say that you come out looking ridiculous in all of them.

 

[peplaw06]

He's not coming out period next season, he's going for a JD it looks like, just because there's a prognostication in writing about someone's projected draft position that was basically written pre-season and talking heads have said this, that and the other doesn't make any prognostication more valid than the other, it's just chatter and conjecture, but increasingly more positive as now the top tier chatter has begun for him.

It's pretty clear RG3 isn't Danny Weurful or Shane Matthews or Reggie McNeil or Michael Bishop.

I was just pointing out Uno has an axe to grind of a prejudice nature unfortunately, the guy is actually racially bigoted against black quarterbacks.

I don't get this... Are you saying he's going to be a first-year law student AND play football at a BCS conference school? That would be suicide. Is he going to finish a pre-law degree or something? That would make some sense.

But he wouldn't be able to finish law school in one year. So if he has plans on going to the NFL, he probably shouldn't start his JD. The JD will always be there if that's what he wants to do.

 

[joseephuss]

I don't get this... Are you saying he's going to be a first-year law student AND play football at a BCS conference school? That would be suicide. Is he going to finish a pre-law degree or something? That would make some sense.

But he wouldn't be able to finish law school in one year. So if he has plans on going to the NFL, he probably shouldn't start his JD. The JD will always be there if that's what he wants to do.

That is kind of what I was thinking. He got his BS in political science in December 2010 and is currently working on a Masters degree(communications I think).

 

[TheFinisher]

Honestly, if we have a good year and pick anywhere from 25-32, I'd take this kid. I know now that seems like a reach, but by then it won't be. This kid is the real deal. He can sit for a few years behind Romo, by the time Romo retires he'll be ready.

If Griffin keeps it up he'll be a top 5 pick.

 

[Aikbach]

Your standards must be pretty damn low to not consider Jason Smith a bust.

The kid was supposed to be a prototype LT, but he has already been moved to RT and was even pulled for his crappy performance last game.

You've managed to take a thread that you (rightfully) started to praise Griffin and turned it into a screaming rant defending all things related to Baylor football.

I don't have a horse in any of these arguments, but I can definitely say that you come out looking ridiculous in all of them.

Whether someone flops in the pros or not is not indicative of their collegiate career or diminish the fact they were deemed first round talent, what other tangent would you like to chase? How many people from the 2009 draft that hardly played their rookie campaign due to injury are you going to hijack the thread to talk about? Frankly I think any tangent has been your own lack of reading, it was a simple rebuke of a troll that looked to demean his teammates and their accomplishments, you're the one going on a tangent with Jason Smith, it was an aside at best.

 

[Aikbach]

I don't get this... Are you saying he's going to be a first-year law student AND play football at a BCS conference school? That would be suicide. Is he going to finish a pre-law degree or something? That would make some sense.

But he wouldn't be able to finish law school in one year. So if he has plans on going to the NFL, he probably shouldn't start his JD. The JD will always be there if that's what he wants to do.

His plans are known but to him, probably will depend how the NFL sirens court him, he's an intelligent man that happens to play football, football is not the lone essence of the man so he is in a rare position to wait and see.

You can be projected a top talent and not heed the call to be drafted, doesn't diminish the fact he's deemed worthy of a high pick.