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jterrell;2670787 said:
rw11 simply did nothing here last year so its hard to assign him a #1 Wr spot in my mind. austin is a speed threat but he runs only a couple of routes and hasn't been able to run them very often.

That's not entirely fair. Roy came here in the middle of the season when the team was already having problems. TO was demanding the ball and the team was struggling with Romo being injured. No chemistry; not knowing the playbook that well; offense being strangled by conflicts.

Surely you can see that a whole off-season with Romo will allow chemistry to develop with Roy. Surely you can see that in the past Roy has show himself MORE THAN capable to be a #1 WR. Surely you can accept that what we got out of Roy last year is in no way likely to be what we will get out of him this year.

As for Austin, he made significant improvement last year. I assume we are willing to accept that he may improve this off-season as well.

Roy Willaims
Crayton
Austin
Hurd
Witten
Bennett
Felix---people are forgetting about his pass catching ability and how dynamic he is

That's a pretty taltent pass-catching squad.

Now, I think we should look to maybe bring in someone like Galloway to be a stabilizing veteran. I think Galloway has enough left in the tank that he could be a nice deep threat #2 with Roy and Witten.

Or what about a guy like Mike Furrey? He is just one seaon removed from a 100 catch season. He could be a nice role player.

At the end of the day, I think we are fine. If we can add in someone who can help out, then great. But we have enough to be a winning team as is.
 

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jterrell;2670787 said:
in 2007 when to/crayton were enough to had perhaps the best season ever by a cowboys wr.

rw11 simply did nothing here last year so its hard to assign him a #1 Wr spot in my mind. austin is a speed threat but he runs only a couple of routes and hasn't been able to run them very often.

ideally we'll move to a more run oriented scheme and use felix like westbrook.

I agree with you except I think Austin has more ability than that. And while I don't think cutting TO had much to do with falling abilities as it did lockerroom stuff etc, I do think the emergence of Austin along with Crayton and RW made them believe they could still win a SB without TO.

Felix should be employed downfield long at times as well as in the short and intermediate game. I don't see him being a Westbrook in his running type but I agree he can do something with the ball in the open field. Certainly. So basically the same role with different skills sets. TC deserves a look in this role as well.

This team should be able to control the ball on offense without a frequent vertical downfield game and get the other offense off the field enough to win. We don't need to score 35+ points a game for Garrett to look like an offensive genius. Hopefully he understands winning is more important.
 

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DaBoys4Life;2670552 said:
IF that's all he does I'd be disappointed.

10 tds and 1k yards is nice, but with how i have Felix being utilized i see 4-6 rushing tds and another 7-9 receiving with easily 1500 yards
 

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jobberone;2670859 said:
Cutting TO makes no sense unless he's creating problems in the locker room which obviously happened. It had nothing to do with failing abilities although I admit he's not the player he was 3 years ago. But then at that age nearly no one is. He's still a #1 WR in the league who draws enemy resources his way.

The problem jobber is that he struggled with physical cb's and double coverage moreso in the last 2 years then he ever did. It is all not on him, I actually liked the dude but got irked when he kept demanding the ball despite the drops or not finishing or running precise routes.

He is still a talent, but clearly a diminishing one. This all works if Roy Williams can step up, our youngsters emerge more fully or we make a heady wr acquistion. One thing for certain Romo should become more passing versatile providing the Oline holds up.
 

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cobra;2670926 said:
That's not entirely fair. Roy came here in the middle of the season when the team was already having problems. TO was demanding the ball and the team was struggling with Romo being injured. No chemistry; not knowing the playbook that well; offense being strangled by conflicts.

Surely you can see that a whole off-season with Romo will allow chemistry to develop with Roy. Surely you can see that in the past Roy has show himself MORE THAN capable to be a #1 WR. Surely you can accept that what we got out of Roy last year is in no way likely to be what we will get out of him this year.

As for Austin, he made significant improvement last year. I assume we are willing to accept that he may improve this off-season as well.

Roy Willaims
Crayton
Austin
Hurd
Witten
Bennett
Felix---people are forgetting about his pass catching ability and how dynamic he is

That's a pretty taltent pass-catching squad.

Now, I think we should look to maybe bring in someone like Galloway to be a stabilizing veteran. I think Galloway has enough left in the tank that he could be a nice deep threat #2 with Roy and Witten.

Or what about a guy like Mike Furrey? He is just one seaon removed from a 100 catch season. He could be a nice role player.

At the end of the day, I think we are fine. If we can add in someone who can help out, then great. But we have enough to be a winning team as is.
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Very good post. Especially the first 2 paragraphs.
 

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cobra;2670926 said:
That's not entirely fair. Roy came here in the middle of the season when the team was already having problems. TO was demanding the ball and the team was struggling with Romo being injured. No chemistry; not knowing the playbook that well; offense being strangled by conflicts.

Surely you can see that a whole off-season with Romo will allow chemistry to develop with Roy. Surely you can see that in the past Roy has show himself MORE THAN capable to be a #1 WR. Surely you can accept that what we got out of Roy last year is in no way likely to be what we will get out of him this year.

As for Austin, he made significant improvement last year. I assume we are willing to accept that he may improve this off-season as well.

Roy Willaims
Crayton
Austin
Hurd
Witten
Bennett
Felix---people are forgetting about his pass catching ability and how dynamic he is

That's a pretty taltent pass-catching squad.

Now, I think we should look to maybe bring in someone like Galloway to be a stabilizing veteran. I think Galloway has enough left in the tank that he could be a nice deep threat #2 with Roy and Witten.

Or what about a guy like Mike Furrey? He is just one seaon removed from a 100 catch season. He could be a nice role player.

At the end of the day, I think we are fine. If we can add in someone who can help out, then great. But we have enough to be a winning team as is.
surely you can see that everything you suggest is just theory not proven.

we do not have a single proven #1WR.

roy williams has only had 1 season over 850 receiving yards and he has never reached double digit TDs. so no, I surely do not think he has proven he can be a #1 wr.

again austin has 18 career catches. u r telling me to accept he can replace the guy with a top 5 of all time WR career???

rofl.

we will not duplicate our passing success so we will need to run more and get the ball into felix's hands as our game breaker.
 

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I still think our primary focus now is on finding a starting SS. I don't think that guy is on our team. I think we'll find a guy in FA or in the draft. We're set at FS with Hamlin and Watkins.

We will probably draft or sign a DE, but I won't be at all surprised if Bowen wins the starting job and really does a nice job.

We will probably draft another CB, but we have 4 guys right now who can play the game and play it pretty well...3 of them will only get better.

We will probably draft or sign a NT, but I still think that's primarily Ratliff's position...we're looking for a backup imo.

We will probably draft or sign a WR, but I am actually excited to see Roy and Miles Austin as the starters.

We will draft a couple of OLmen.

TO was not nearly the bad cancer that many of us thought he'd be when we was signed 3 years ago. At first, he was a little unstable, but he was a good teammate and a productive receiver. This past year, he was not productive at 4.5 catches and about 65 yards a game. This year he seemed to get more frustrated when things weren't going well...and like it or not, the guy does divide a locker room. He didn't mean to do it, and it wasn't like the disasters in SF or Philly, but he's such a strong personality that he's always going to be divisive by nature and because the media won't leave it alone.

I don't find fault with TO as a Dallas Cowboy...we would have been a worse team without him. But now it is definitely time to move on without him...we'll be just fine without him, imo, and in another year we'll be a better team without him. We may not have a WR who puts up the numbers he has in the past, but I'm going to go out on a limb and predict that our offense will put up better numbers as a unit than we did with all the focus on TO.

That's my opinion.
 

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it comes down to this:

w/ TO gone, there's no, "we have to get the ball to him if we want to win", or, "throwing the ball to TO is our best chance to score points", and Romo will recognize, and see that there are other players uncovered

for instance, Roy Will in the endzone
 

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ummmmmmmm.....this thread makes WAY too much sense to be on here...nicely done. Can Roy Williams be a #1 though? Dunno........
 

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My only significant disagreement with the original post is I have less confidence in RW's ability to produce at a high level as a number one receiver. I liked him as a complement, but I'm not sold on him being "the guy."

I could see Dallas trying to pick up a possession receiver somewhere in the draft or FA, but I haven't taken the time to see who's out there.
 

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jterrell;2670507 said:
A few things.

I generally agree with your overall body of work there but certainly not all of it.

Crabtree is definitely not overrated but it would be insane to trade up for him. Crabtree was also never covered as a collegian period. No one could handle him period. He played this season hurt and still won the Biletnikoff. I do not encourage drafting Wrs high but there a few exceptions and Crabtree is as close to Fitz as it gets. He is big, super strong for his size and can jump. The guy single-handedly cost Texas the national championship.

Cutting T.O. works if we do see better team chemistry and we can replace his production even if that replacement is Felix Jones and Tashard Choice. I just know we can't see what we have seen the 3 years T.O. was here and was out... i.e. the offense wilting like a flower on sun-baked concrete.

RW11 is a good player but he has never had 1000 yards and 10 TDS in a season. T.O. did that all 3 years he was here. And Romo to T.O. was the most prolific QB/WR combo over the course of his 3 years here in the entire NFL. So Romo will be asked to do more now, not less. Not sure this really makes the game more Romo-friendly. UNLESS, it means a lot more running plays.

yet ealy in detriot before Millen made the Team worse and his injury year

In his 1st 2 years he had 8 tds's and his 3rd year 7tds His 4th year he only played 12 games and still put up 5 tds

He only played 5 games his 5th year and he was lost for the year 1td
Last year was a lost year spiting time he still put up 2tds

So his 1st 3 years where real good then it is has slowed down a combination of injury and the teams he played on.

Take it for what it is
 
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