***Rip Garrett Thread***

[rcaldw]

You know what I love about you? The fact that you don't need a picture of Garrett with a heart around it to know how objective you are

Kendo's definition of objectivity = bash Garrett and you are objective

 

[Stautner]

Just because you can doesn't mean you always should. Jimmy Johnson had Aikman and Irvin but chose to use Smith to close out games when having a lead. Yes we don't have a player like Smith but we also don't have players like Aikman and Irvin. Even when the run game was working today, JG choose to pass on 3rd and 2. His play calling was as stupid as the passes Romo was chucking.

The Cowboys had been making 1st downs by passing on 3rd and short all game long - why weren't you screaming about it all those other times? I woujld bet dollars to donuts you weren't even screaming about it the time the INT occurred. That was an after the fact reaction.

HAd Garrett abandoned the run I would agree with you, but the reality is his play calling was very balanced when we got the lead. Poor decisions by Romo does not make the play call bad. We needed first downs, and Garrett called what had been working all game long.

 

[Zman5]

The Cowboys had been making 1st downs by passing on 3rd and short all game long - why weren't you screaming about it all those other times? I woujld bet dollars to donuts you weren't even screaming about it the time the INT occurred. That was an after the fact reaction.

HAd Garrett abandoned the run I would agree with you, but the reality is his play calling was very balanced when we got the lead. Poor decisions by Romo does not make the play call bad. We needed first downs, and Garrett called what had been working all game long.

Why? Because we weren't up 27-10 and Romo didn't just throw a picksix at the time.

Passing from a shotgun on 3rd and 2 when your RBs were getting 7,6,4,7,1 yards on previous 5 plays is abandoning the run.

 

[Ren]

Romo is a coach killer, Garrett looked like a genius last season pulling wins out his *** with Kitna and McGee

 

[Chocolate Lab]

How we doin', guys?

 

[CowboyMcCoy]

With proper coaching, this team could easily be 4-0 and definitely looking at 11 wins overall. I can't believe we're sitting at 2-2 and people on here still vehemently defending Garrett. It's so clear how he's costing us wins. He can take his ginger tecmo bowl playbook and shove it.

:laugh2:

In a sense, I'm mad too. But you have to give him a little slack. He's still in his rookie year as a coach, really, in terms of games coached. He hasn't even coached 16 games.

 

[Zman5]

:laugh2:

In a sense, I'm mad too. But you have to give him a little slack. He's still in his rookie year as a coach, really, in terms of games coached. He hasn't even coached 16 games.

He's been the OC here for past 4 years though.

 

[Kendo]

Kendo's definition of objectivity = bash Garrett and you are objective

Objectivity = Defend Garrett at all costs.....

Defend him all you want, I actually think he's gonna be ok once he finally settles in but there is no denying he is going through some growing pains right now. It's funny to me how some people are absolved of any blame because of blatant homerism, but the fact remains that when a team wins or loses there are reasons why. In the event of a win, players/coaches get credited for reasons why, and in the event of a loss it should be the same. Sometimes there is a fine line but nonetheless the blame for todays loss can and should be directed at Romo and Garrett.

I happen to love both, and think we can win with them but they definitely need to be coddled a bit. Both have flaws that I feel have been exposed, however I don't believe these have to be deal breakers. Romo and Garrett clearly have the talent to deliver as we have all seen from time to time (Sometimes half to half) but also the ability to shoot themselves in the foot.

Basically I think if Garrett can learn to unleash, and/or harness Romo at the right times (Through a learning process, or hiring a true OC) that this team could be unstoppable. Couple this with a heathy young team and o- line starting to gel and we have some optimism. Until then, let's call a spade a spade. This is a decent team that's gonna require the right combination of Garrett and Romo to win games.

 

[Jay]

I like Jason Garrett the head coach, I despise Jason Garrett the offensive playcaller.

 

[Beast_from_East]

He's been the OC here for past 4 years though.

You would think after 4 freaking seasons of calling plays that Garrett would learn a thing or two. It looked like Garrett was calling "run n shoot" plays out there.


When your QB has almost 50 pass attempts in a game where not only did you have a 24 point lead in the second half, but never trailed in the game until the final 2 mins................well, its just pure incompetence.


Tecmo needs to take his Playstation playbook and go find an Arean team to coach, seriously.

 

[Tabascocat]

You would think after 4 freaking seasons of calling plays that Garrett would learn a thing or two. It looked like Garrett was calling "run n shoot" plays out there.


When your QB has almost 50 pass attempts in a game where not only did you have a 24 point lead in the second half, but never trailed in the game until the final 2 mins................well, its just pure incompetence.


Tecmo needs to take his Playstation playbook and go find an Arean team to coach, seriously.

Well said, could not agree more.

 

[JBell]

Read thread title, thought Garrett died

 

[Stautner]

Why? Because we weren't up 27-10 and Romo didn't just throw a picksix at the time.

Passing from a shotgun on 3rd and 2 when your RBs were getting 7,6,4,7,1 yards on previous 5 plays is abandoning the run.

Baloney.

It's keeping balance, and fighting off predictability.

And its the knowledge that you are ignoring that running on 3rd and 2 is different than running on 1st and 10.

It's also recognizing that when you are playing a team averaging over 30 points a game you can't let yourself get overly conservative so that you lose the edge that built the lead.

It's recopgnizing there is a difference between pulling back a little, which Garrett did, and pulling back completely, which would be a huge mistake with so much time left in the game.

It's really easy to say we had some successful runs just before that play - and at the same time its funny that you can ignore an entire half of successful passes on 3rd and short. As is normal for a lot of posters, you only grab what suits you and ignore the facts that don't.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Read thread title, thought Garrett died

:laugh1:

 

[alancdc]

his play calling is messed up I would rather have Rob Ryan as HC and a good O-cord.

Understand the frustration, but it was also his play calling that had them up 27-3. Do agree though that they certainly should have run it on firsst down at that point in the game. No way was Detroit going to drive the field enoough on us to come back.

 

[Gaede]

Garrett's losing a little shine, in my eyes.

Pretty sloppy if you give up a 24 point lead. Matter of fact, why does it always seem to be the offense that is screwing games up?

Ryan's guys seem much more prepared after just one short offseason with their coach. Why can't the guy whose been here for 4 years figure out how to coach up his guys?

 

[Jimz31]

You would think after 4 freaking seasons of calling plays that Garrett would learn a thing or two. It looked like Garrett was calling "run n shoot" plays out there.


When your QB has almost 50 pass attempts in a game where not only did you have a 24 point lead in the second half, but never trailed in the game until the final 2 mins................well, its just pure incompetence.


Tecmo needs to take his Playstation playbook and go find an Arean team to coach, seriously.

Gotta agree with this.....50 pass attempts is normally a sign of a team that is trailing not of one with a lead....especially a 20+ point lead. JG still needs to learn game management and then he could become a great coach....but Romo still can't throw INTs like that.....

 

[Sifillest]

ill say this....wasnt felix getting pretty decent yardage when we ran the ball? I understand his shoulder is screwed up...but with a 24 point lead...man take time off the clock! also never give tashard choice the ball ever....EVER! that guy is a bum. id rather have julius jones than him.

 

[Stash]

Understand the frustration, but it was also his play calling that had them up 27-3. Do agree though that they certainly should have run it on firsst down at that point in the game. No way was Detroit going to drive the field enoough on us to come back.

Absolutely agree. He does deserve a lot of credit for some excellent play-calling in the game as well.

His use of screens and some misdirection early on was brilliant and really threw off and slowed Detroit's pass rush, and I thought that continued for most of the game.

But what many of us feel is that he kept slinging it even when he didn't need to.

It looks like the man lacks the patience to run the football, prefering the flash of the pass instead.

And for me, that goes back to when he first arrived and it's continued to this point.

He could use a small dose of Parcells. Not ultra-conservative, but a little bit more of playing the percentages.

 

[Gaede]

Absolutely agree. He does deserve a lot of credit for some excellent play-calling in the game as well.

His use of screens and some misdirection early on was brilliant and really threw off and slowed Detroit's pass rush, and I thought that continued for most of the game.

But what many of us feel is that he kept slinging it even when he didn't need to.

It looks like the man lacks the patience to run the football, prefering the flash of the pass instead.

And for me, that goes back to when he first arrived and it's continued to this point.

He could use a small dose of Parcells. Not ultra-conservative, but a little bit more of playing the percentages.

Agree completely. He did a great job the first half and neutralizing the Lions. Simply awesome.

But one other nasty thing resurfaced yesterday and that's Garrett inability to adjust at half time. With such a big lead going into half, the game plan should've changed to simply, run, run, playaction.