Ripple Effect

[Blitzen]

Best case scenario. Amari Cooper regains first two years form and Dak regains first year form. Dallas Cowboys win out, and then go on to win Superbowl.

Next best case scenario. Amari gets open plenty, but it's apparent that Dak cannot consistently hit targets to make the passing game work. Cowboys have a terrible 2018 and 2019 season and reload and draft a new QB high in the first round.

Worst case scenario. The trade does not truly work. More mediocre results come with middling play from Dak and Cooper and the receivers. With no real options to draft a replacement, nor need with a rabid fan base the Cowboys sign Dak to a massive deal. This means losing other impact players and not being able to add high end free agents.

The Cowboys end 2018 6-10 that would land them a top 10 pick and a major defensive upgrade on the cheap. They don't get the player, so they pay Demarcus Lawrence a ridiculous salary to save face and show the fan base they will pay for production. Lawrence's back issues reappear, but he guts it out and plays 10 games next season helping the team to another 8-8, 9-7 season and the 16-20 pick in 2020 draft. The Cowboys suck badly in 2020 season and it becomes apparent they will not go anywhere with Dak, but he has 2 more seasons with large guaranteed money. They draft a new QB, but feel it best to sit and develop him. He finally gets some reps and real opportunity to play in 2022. The aging offensive line is in shambles as the Cowboys were not able to pick quality depth as they used other high end picks on tight ends, secondary, defensive line. The running game is no longer a strength, and the new QB gets injured behind a bad offensive line. Starting over and reset takes over a decade.

 

[mmohican29]

I dont like the deal. But this ripple effect is more like a 5 year tops. Any team will turn over almost entirely in that time frame even under worst case scenarios.

I agree it is bleak from where I sit today. With the roster on hand, and a few smart moves was capable of a quick turnaround with a better head coach and a new QB. That's all on hold.

 

[Bobhaze]

A better move would have been to hire a new head coach last February. An innovative guy who can actually coach to the 25 year old developing QB still on a rookie contract along with a top tier RB and OL.

Instead, Jerry went to his old playbook again. Bring in a WR. Did in 2000 with Galloway, 2006 with TO, 2008 with Roy Williams and now 2018 with Cooper. Jerry’s answer to every coaching problem this team has had is to bring in a WR.

I’ve seen this movie before. Sequels are rarely better than the original. Especially when the original sucked.

 

[sureletsrace]

Best case scenario. Amari Cooper regains first two years form and Dak regains first year form. Dallas Cowboys win out, and then go on to win Superbowl.

Next best case scenario. Amari gets open plenty, but it's apparent that Dak cannot consistently hit targets to make the passing game work. Cowboys have a terrible 2018 and 2019 season and reload and draft a new QB high in the first round.

Worst case scenario. The trade does not truly work. More mediocre results come with middling play from Dak and Cooper and the receivers. With no real options to draft a replacement, nor need with a rabid fan base the Cowboys sign Dak to a massive deal. This means losing other impact players and not being able to add high end free agents.

The Cowboys end 2018 6-10 that would land them a top 10 pick and a major defensive upgrade on the cheap. They don't get the player, so they pay Demarcus Lawrence a ridiculous salary to save face and show the fan base they will pay for production. Lawrence's back issues reappear, but he guts it out and plays 10 games next season helping the team to another 8-8, 9-7 season and the 16-20 pick in 2020 draft. The Cowboys suck badly in 2020 season and it becomes apparent they will not go anywhere with Dak, but he has 2 more seasons with large guaranteed money. They draft a new QB, but feel it best to sit and develop him. He finally gets some reps and real opportunity to play in 2022. The aging offensive line is in shambles as the Cowboys were not able to pick quality depth as they used other high end picks on tight ends, secondary, defensive line. The running game is no longer a strength, and the new QB gets injured behind a bad offensive line. Starting over and reset takes over a decade.

Those last 2 paragraphs make my stomach churn.

 

[GenoT]

Ripple effect?

After how many bottles...?

 

[chagus]

This post is apocalyptic.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Best case scenario. Amari Cooper regains first two years form and Dak regains first year form. Dallas Cowboys win out, and then go on to win Superbowl.

Next best case scenario. Amari gets open plenty, but it's apparent that Dak cannot consistently hit targets to make the passing game work. Cowboys have a terrible 2018 and 2019 season and reload and draft a new QB high in the first round.

Worst case scenario. The trade does not truly work. More mediocre results come with middling play from Dak and Cooper and the receivers. With no real options to draft a replacement, nor need with a rabid fan base the Cowboys sign Dak to a massive deal. This means losing other impact players and not being able to add high end free agents.

The Cowboys end 2018 6-10 that would land them a top 10 pick and a major defensive upgrade on the cheap. They don't get the player, so they pay Demarcus Lawrence a ridiculous salary to save face and show the fan base they will pay for production. Lawrence's back issues reappear, but he guts it out and plays 10 games next season helping the team to another 8-8, 9-7 season and the 16-20 pick in 2020 draft. The Cowboys suck badly in 2020 season and it becomes apparent they will not go anywhere with Dak, but he has 2 more seasons with large guaranteed money. They draft a new QB, but feel it best to sit and develop him. He finally gets some reps and real opportunity to play in 2022. The aging offensive line is in shambles as the Cowboys were not able to pick quality depth as they used other high end picks on tight ends, secondary, defensive line. The running game is no longer a strength, and the new QB gets injured behind a bad offensive line. Starting over and reset takes over a decade.

Why don’t u people understand that it’s the online?

 

[ESisback]

Best case scenario. Amari Cooper regains first two years form and Dak regains first year form. Dallas Cowboys win out, and then go on to win Superbowl.

Next best case scenario. Amari gets open plenty, but it's apparent that Dak cannot consistently hit targets to make the passing game work. Cowboys have a terrible 2018 and 2019 season and reload and draft a new QB high in the first round.

Worst case scenario. The trade does not truly work. More mediocre results come with middling play from Dak and Cooper and the receivers. With no real options to draft a replacement, nor need with a rabid fan base the Cowboys sign Dak to a massive deal. This means losing other impact players and not being able to add high end free agents.

The Cowboys end 2018 6-10 that would land them a top 10 pick and a major defensive upgrade on the cheap. They don't get the player, so they pay Demarcus Lawrence a ridiculous salary to save face and show the fan base they will pay for production. Lawrence's back issues reappear, but he guts it out and plays 10 games next season helping the team to another 8-8, 9-7 season and the 16-20 pick in 2020 draft. The Cowboys suck badly in 2020 season and it becomes apparent they will not go anywhere with Dak, but he has 2 more seasons with large guaranteed money. They draft a new QB, but feel it best to sit and develop him. He finally gets some reps and real opportunity to play in 2022. The aging offensive line is in shambles as the Cowboys were not able to pick quality depth as they used other high end picks on tight ends, secondary, defensive line. The running game is no longer a strength, and the new QB gets injured behind a bad offensive line. Starting over and reset takes over a decade.

What a rosey picture you paint! You forgot—Jerry World catches fire, and hundreds of immigrant children, treated to their first taste of American football, burn to death. Then the team plane crashes, and the Black Plague sweeps the country, followed by massive earthquakes and famine.

 

[waving monkey]

Why don’t u people understand that it’s the online?

I dont know

 

[Blitzen]

What a rosey picture you paint! You forgot—Jerry World catches fire, and hundreds of immigrant children, treated to their first taste of American football, burn to death. Then the team plane crashes, and the Black Plague sweeps the country, followed by massive earthquakes and famine.

You think my worst case scenario far fetched? Just look at the fairly recent past. Follow the trade for Joey Galloway and Roy Williams. But look further at subsequent drafts (plural) to see what type of players could be drafted and what type of roster spots were filled and upgraded in those subsequent years with picks and free agents. Giving away a 1st can often lead to poor decisions regarding how to fill the roster with talent (both in free agency and the draft). It has in the past, not just with this team but many others.

Trading a first midseason should be reserved for a team that is 5-1 or better with a recent (last 5 years with same QB) history of deep postseason success unless it is for a starting QB. This is a move by a guy playing with unlimited chips. It does not really matter to them if this trade blows up in their face. If it generates great ratings, more ticket and merch sales it is a win.

 

[Blitzen]

This post is apocalyptic.

It really just revisits history. The effect is more than the first founder. How will the Cowboys approach free agency and this draft after the season if it does not work or just kinda works? And how will those decisions affect future off-season decisions? Go back to that Quincy Carter draft and see how things lead to that decision. Then the subsequent years of deciding what to do with him. Not that he had anything close to what this team gave Dak but still.

 

[CATCH17]

Why don’t u people understand that it’s the online?

Good QB's can still succeed with bad Olines.

Our Oline is mediocre. Just like everything else Garrett touches.

 

[ESisback]

You think my worst case scenario far fetched? Just look at the fairly recent past. Follow the trade for Joey Galloway and Roy Williams. But look further at subsequent drafts (plural) to see what type of players could be drafted and what type of roster spots were filled and upgraded in those subsequent years with picks and free agents. Giving away a 1st can often lead to poor decisions regarding how to fill the roster with talent (both in free agency and the draft). It has in the past, not just with this team but many others.

Trading a first midseason should be reserved for a team that is 5-1 or better with a recent (last 5 years with same QB) history of deep postseason success unless it is for a starting QB. This is a move by a guy playing with unlimited chips. It does not really matter to them if this trade blows up in their face. If it generates great ratings, more ticket and merch sales it is a win.

Not so much far fetched as just extremely detailed and far reaching misery.

In today impatient, confrontational, and ever changing world with no guarantees, there seems to be much more shortsightedness with much more important things like economics or the environment. Instead, we’re talking about ‘what ifs’ in a game, years down the road.

Of course they want ratings, ticket sales and lots of merch movement—they ALL do. But regardless of what so many people claim, they DO want to win as well.

 

[jazzcat22]

You think my worst case scenario far fetched? Just look at the fairly recent past. Follow the trade for Joey Galloway and Roy Williams. But look further at subsequent drafts (plural) to see what type of players could be drafted and what type of roster spots were filled and upgraded in those subsequent years with picks and free agents. Giving away a 1st can often lead to poor decisions regarding how to fill the roster with talent (both in free agency and the draft). It has in the past, not just with this team but many others.

Trading a first midseason should be reserved for a team that is 5-1 or better with a recent (last 5 years with same QB) history of deep postseason success unless it is for a starting QB. This is a move by a guy playing with unlimited chips. It does not really matter to them if this trade blows up in their face. If it generates great ratings, more ticket and merch sales it is a win.

Just because something did not work before, we therefore should not try to improve the team again?
Everyone looks to the past to compare, then say what is done now is won't work either is just absurd.

I get it, nothing has seemed to work, but how would have they worked out otherwise too. We do not know. So why dwell on it.
I don't like we gave up a 1st, but I do understand it.

 

[75boyz]

Those last 2 paragraphs make my stomach churn.

I agree. And the thing that bothers me most is that although these events have not yet taken place, it is as though this is exactly what will happen knowing this team's recent history.

Really disturbing.

 

[75boyz]

This post is apocalyptic.

This

 

[CCBoy]

The offensive line is still very youthful, even with Smith, as older players stick around on the offensive line.

The present quarterback is young; the stud running back is young; and now, Cooper and Gallup are young. I'd say that they project.

Who is the only starter considered old, on a projecting defense? Sean Lee...c'mon, a ton is going positive.

 

[Blitzen]

Not so much far fetched as just extremely detailed and far reaching misery.

In today impatient, confrontational, and ever changing world with no guarantees, there seems to be much more shortsightedness with much more important things like economics or the environment. Instead, we’re talking about ‘what ifs’ in a game, years down the road.

Of course they want ratings, ticket sales and lots of merch movement—they ALL do. But regardless of what so many people claim, they DO want to win as well.

I give more thought to other topics. I thought every single sentence I wrote in the span of nanoseconds after hearing the news. It just happens to be something that my brain says is not only possible but likely.

For the record, I enjoy playing what if. I don't get excited about predicting failure. I predict success for these same Cowboys much of the time. I would expect them to win for example against Tennessee and their lousy offense in two weeks.

And Jerry cares more about success at the register than he does in the win column. But who cares? Even if I am right, it does not amount to anything.

 

[nightrain]

The ripple effect I am worried will take shape is the QB won't be able to find his new star with completions and not much will change production wise.

 

[Zekeats]

A better move would have been to hire a new head coach last February. An innovative guy who can actually coach to the 25 year old developing QB still on a rookie contract along with a top tier RB and OL.

Instead, Jerry went to his old playbook again. Bring in a WR. Did in 2000 with Galloway, 2006 with TO, 2008 with Roy Williams and now 2018 with Cooper. Jerry’s answer to every coaching problem this team has had is to bring in a WR.

I’ve seen this movie before. Sequels are rarely better than the original. Especially when the original sucked.

Don't worry we got Kellen teaching Dak.