RKG - A Point of View

[skinsscalper]

There's another quote in this very thread where Jason talking specifically about Irvin in comparing his passion to Witten.

Yet another interesting omission.

 

[TwoDeep3]

That early 90's team didn't have to deal with the salary cap.

Knocking the snot out of people has nothing to do with the salary cap.

 

[waving monkey]

I thought for the most part the "90's" team were RKG guyd

 

[Doomsay]

There's another quote in this very thread where Jason talking specifically about Irvin in comparing his passion to Witten.

Being compelled to say something nice about Michael in the context of Jason breaking his team record isn't the same as being omitted from the pantheon of RKGdom in the 90's era.

 

[casmith07]

Being compelled to say something nice about Michael in the context of Jason breaking his team record isn't the same as being omitted from the pantheon of RKGdom in the 90's era.

"Compelled?" Proof?

 

[Doomsay]

"Compelled?" Proof?

Probably the right thing to do right? When a player who you currently coach breaks your former teammate's record and somebody sticks a mike in your face, you got to come up with something. In this case, they were both "passionate" but you know, in a different kind of way.

 

[joseephuss]

Knocking the snot out of people has nothing to do with the salary cap.

Being able to keep an abundance of talent on one team has everything to do with the salary cap.

 

[casmith07]

Probably the right thing to do right? When a player who you currently coach breaks your former teammate's record and somebody sticks a mike in your face, you got to come up with something. In this case, they were both "passionate" but you know, in a different kind of way.

That is your opinion. I want proof that he was compelled, i.e. forced to say anything about Michael.

 

[Doomsay]

That is your opinion. I want proof that he was compelled, i.e. forced to say anything about Michael.

LOL, you look for proof where none is required, it's self evident, just reason it out for yourself.

 

[Beast_from_East]

I'm with you on the Clyde Simmons not being dead part. I guess I don't get where you're getting the boy scout thing, which I've never heard from anyone in the organization.

Maybe the RKGs are not boy scouts, maybe they just suck?

Maybe it doesn't matter how much you love the game if you are just not as good as the guy across from you.

 

[Ratmatt]

This team isn't good enough at talent acquisition!

 

[Jarv]

So that is what RKG means...lol.

 

[casmith07]

LOL, you look for proof where none is required, it's self evident, just reason it out for yourself.

Translation: I pulled that out of my buttocks.

 

[joseephuss]

Translation: I pulled that out of my buttocks.

That's why it smells.

 

[Idgit]

Maybe the RKGs are not boy scouts, maybe they just suck?

Maybe it doesn't matter how much you love the game if you are just not as good as the guy across from you.

Well, that's definitely the case. The guys we fielded on defense were out of their league along the DL most of last season. We can probably debate whether or not that group was a good measure of what we were looking for as NFL DL starters when we set about building that position group. I'm going to go with 'they weren't.'

 

[Doomsay]

Translation: I pulled that out of my buttocks.

Yeah, I don't know what your obsession is with not understanding what a coach's normal reaction to that record breaking scenario should have been, but there is no reason to be skatilogical about it.

There was an obligatory response there on his ESPN interview, but nothing tantamount to a extemporaneous embrace of Michael as Jason's RKG paradigm player, which is the point you fail to recognize.

 

[SilverStarCowboy]

Not unlike the Secret Sauce and the Process, RKGs are a Fantasy.

 

[Idgit]

Not unlike the Secret Sauce and the Process, RKGs are a Fantasy.

What do any of those things even mean? And how do you rationalize calling the process and the idea of looking for the right kinds of people for your program to be 'fantasies?' Of course they have a process they're trying to follow, and of course they have a character makeup they're looking for. I know you're frustrated, but, man. At least try to make the criticism reasonable. Say you don't like the process or don't like the types of players they're adding, if that's how you feel, but let's not pretend these things don't exist just because you're not happy with the results.

 

[casmith07]

Yeah, I don't know what your obsession is with not understanding what a coach's normal reaction to that record breaking scenario should have been, but there is no reason to be skatilogical about it.

There was an obligatory response there on his ESPN interview, but nothing tantamount to a extemporaneous embrace of Michael as Jason's RKG paradigm player, which is the point you fail to recognize.

Using a handful of multisyllabic words does not change the fact that you still have yet to state anything concrete relating to him being compelled to make any kind of statement about Michael Irvin as a "RKG."

I will continue to wait with not-so-baited breath to see if you're able to produce some sort of hard evidence that suggests that Jason Garrett was forced to compare Irvin's passion to Witten's passion (more of a compare and contrast rather than a simple comparison), or where he was forced to discuss Irvin's passion as his teammate on the Dallas Cowboys in the early to mid 1990's.

Jason could have compared Witten's passion to anyone's passion on that team -- Darren Woodson. Troy Aikman. Emmitt Smith. Daryl Johnston. Mark Stepnoski. Larry Allen. Erik Williams. Jay Novacek. The list goes on and on.

"But why, casmith07? Why?"

Hold on, I'll tell you why Doomsay.

Because those teams were composed of multiple individuals who possessed the requisite passion, talent, and sense of team over self in order to be successful in the NFL and on the Dallas Cowboys.

Just because Jason Garrett decided to use the most vocal or most overtly passionate player does not mean he was COMPELLED to make that comparison, nor to use Michael Irvin as an example of the mold of the "RKG" for a football team.

But I shouldn't expect you to understand that -- your blind hatred of everything Jason Garrett has already preempted any ability for you to grasp simple logic and reasoning.

This discussion is henceforth over.