ROFL- Marcus Vick dumber than VY?

[DLCassidy]

http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft06/insider/columns/story?columnist=mcshay_todd&id=2373838&action=login&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fnfl%2fdraft06%2finsider%2fcolumns%2fstory%3fcolumnist%3dmcshay_todd%26id%3d2373838

In case you can't access the link MV score an 11 on the Wonderlic. VY had a 15.

 

[DizzG]

Whats dumb is anyone that actually believe that test proves how smart someone is

not to mention Countless NFL people have said its only a small part of a large package of things they look at

 

[BlueStar22]

Whats dumb is anyone that actually believe that test proves how smart someone is

Tell me about it. I'm a college graduate with an accounting degree and I'm not confident I would do well on the test. Sure, if I prepared for it like most of the players at the combine I'd do okay. However, they said VY didn't even prepare for it.

 

[joseephuss]

Whats dumb is anyone that actually believe that test proves how smart someone is

not to mention Countless NFL people have said its only a small part of a large package of things they look at

Marcus Vick is doing poorly in many of the small parts of the large package teams use to evaluate players.

 

[joseephuss]

Tell me about it. I'm a college graduate with an accounting degree and I'm not confident I would do well on the test. Sure, if I prepared for it like most of the players at the combine I'd do okay. However, they said VY didn't even prepare for it.

Young's mistake was not hiring a top agent and management group. I know he trusts his family, but football is a business and needs to be handled by people that know the business. If I were a QB, I would hire Leigh Steinberg. He is one of the best.

 

[Cajuncowboy]

It doesn't make much of a difference if you are a Defensive lineman. But when you are a QB it makes a big difference. What's dumb is anyone thinking you can have a bowl of pudding for a brain and still be able to break down a defence in 2 seconds.

 

[DLCassidy]

Whats dumb is anyone that actually believe that test proves how smart someone is

not to mention Countless NFL people have said its only a small part of a large package of things they look at

I've got a fern in my office that could score 7 or 8 on that test. If scoring 11 for a QB doesn't ring any alarm bells for you, all I can say is lucky for the world you aren't making decisions for an NFL team. If it was for a DE or RB it wouldn't matter one bit. But I doubt there's ever been a starting QB in NFL history that scored 11. Vick was already off a # of NFL teams boards. he'll be off more after this.

 

[burmafrd]

Actually when you think about it having these inexperienced people doing the negotiations would make a club more willing to go after him- they would figure they could get a better deal then normal.

 

[joseephuss]

I've got a fern in my office that could score 7 or 8 on that test. If scoring 11 for a QB doesn't ring any alarm bells for you, all I can say is lucky for the world you aren't making decisions for an NFL team. If it was for a DE or RB it wouldn't matter one bit. But I doubt there's ever been a starting QB in NFL history that scored 11. Vick was already off a # of NFL teams boards. he'll be off more after this.

Terry Bradshaw? According to Hollywood, "He couldn't spell 'cat' if you spotted him the 'c' and the 'a'."

 

[joseephuss]

Actually when you think about it having these inexperienced people doing the negotiations would make a club more willing to go after him- they would figure they could get a better deal then normal.

That is a good point. I foresee Young holding out because of his management group.

 

[theogt]

Whats dumb is anyone that actually believe that test proves how smart someone is

not to mention Countless NFL people have said its only a small part of a large package of things they look at

That's just ridiculous. The test isn't perfectly accurate but it is a relatively accurate gauge of intelligence.

 

[Doomsday]

http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft06/insider/columns/story?columnist=mcshay_todd&id=2373838&action=login&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fnfl%2fdraft06%2finsider%2fcolumns%2fstory%3fcolumnist%3dmcshay_todd%26id%3d2373838

In case you can't access the link MV score an 11 on the Wonderlic. VY had a 15.

Did you really need a wonderlic test to figure out that Marcus Vick isnt too bright?

 

[DLCassidy]

Terry Bradshaw? According to Hollywood, "He couldn't spell 'cat' if you spotted him the 'c' and the 'a'."

Terry was not THAT dumb. He played the country bumpkin act up in Pitt because it served his purpose. And today's NFL is not the NFL of the 60's and 70's. QB is one position I want a bright guy at. Something tells me based on everything we read about MV that he wasn't exactly a scholar.

 

[DLCassidy]

Did you really need a wonderlic test to figure out that Marcus Vick isnt too bright?

:laugh1:

 

[joseephuss]

Terry was not THAT dumb. He played the country bumpkin act up in Pitt because it served his purpose. And today's NFL is not the NFL of the 60's and 70's. QB is one position I want a bright guy at. Something tells me based on everything we read about MV that he wasn't exactly a scholar.

I was just kidding. I love that quote from Hollywood. I agree with your assessment. A QB needs some smarts to be good in the NFL. The wonderlic test isn't a perfect testing mechanism for football intelligence, but there are some trends to go along with the scores. Most QBs who score low don't fair too well in the NFL. Dan Marino was an exception. I don't see Marcus Vick as a guy who will be an exception and he has a few other issues.

Scoring very high on the test also doesn't guarantee success either. As was pointed out already, the test is just one part of the evaluation process. I will tend to pick QBs who score higher on the test when all other things are close to equal.

 

[DLCassidy]

I was just kidding. I love that quote from Hollywood. I agree with your assessment. A QB needs some smarts to be good in the NFL. The wonderlic test isn't a perfect testing mechanism for football intelligence, but there are some trends to go along with the scores. Most QBs who score low don't fair too well in the NFL. Dan Marino was an exception. I don't see Marcus Vick as a guy who will be an exception and he has a few other issues.

Scoring very high on the test also doesn't guarantee success either. As was pointed out already, the test is just one part of the evaluation process. I will tend to pick QBs who score higher on the test when all other things are close to equal.

No question it's just a small piece of the puzzle. But a really low score is hard to ignore for a QB.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Did you really need a wonderlic test to figure out that Marcus Vick isnt too bright?

 

[DizzG]

but it is a relatively accurate gauge of intelligence.

Says who? Can you point a study that shows these results? I've taken a version of this test for job interview. No way does it prove someones overall intelligence. I've read several reports over the past few weeks how most teams do far more testing with other methods than this test to look at intelligence. The wonderlic isnt the be all and end all of anything

 

[Derinyar]

I was just kidding. I love that quote from Hollywood. I agree with your assessment. A QB needs some smarts to be good in the NFL. The wonderlic test isn't a perfect testing mechanism for football intelligence, but there are some trends to go along with the scores. Most QBs who score low don't fair too well in the NFL. Dan Marino was an exception. I don't see Marcus Vick as a guy who will be an exception and he has a few other issues.

Scoring very high on the test also doesn't guarantee success either. As was pointed out already, the test is just one part of the evaluation process. I will tend to pick QBs who score higher on the test when all other things are close to equal.

The one thing to remember on Marino is that is, supposedly, before the agents started having their players prep for it.

 

[joseephuss]

Says who? Can you point a study that shows these results? I've taken a version of this test for job interview. No way does it prove someones overall intelligence. I've read several reports over the past few weeks how most teams do far more testing with other methods than this test to look at intelligence. The wonderlic isnt the be all and end all of anything

It does not have to be the ultimate test. For the most part, it provides sufficient information for NFL teams. Sure good franchises probably do perform more extensive testing. The wonderlic probably provides a decent basis to start from and may even weed out some players.