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I went over the play by play. I watched the highlights and part of the game again. the interceptions were all on romo.

after we scored and went up 27-3. we started with a pass play. take the play if its there, otherwise throw it away....I am not sure what romo saw, but he threw to a well covered bryant (all you could see was the detroit player. Carpenter had assignment to cover underneath. he didn't even sneak into the play. Romo just threw it, into double coverage, where the play had no chance. he didn't even throw it high, so that maybe bryant goes up and gets the ball, or else it goes out of bounch. it was low.... very eerily similar to the int he threw to Revis in the jets game....

why? why did he feel he should make a throw to Dez...when he is well covered. brain faart!!!


on the second one the series was run, run, run, pass, run, run, pass.

not a bad series. calling runs. making first downs. protecting the lead. chewing the clock (for 5 minutes). then he throws another bad pass to the WR. the reciver (robinson) is again well covered. he throws it where the reciever has no chance to make a play. the defender makes a great play and scores a TD. ..rare, but again, bad throw...like he didn't see the defender. same side,

and on the 3rd one.....now, we are forced to make a play. he is going backwards, witten again double covered, not at the end, but the whole way. blanketed and sandwiched between two players. romo is falling or going backward, throws, from his backfoot, 30 yards down field. why? this is a mistake a rookie makes, not a 9 year veteran. you don't throw into double coverage from your back foot.

three brain farts.......now, 4 on the season.....

I don't care about accountability. I care about making smart plays. those weren't smart plays......what's going through Romo's mind when he makes those plays. not thinking? I am not sure. but its consistent.
 
CowboysFaninDC;4159844 said:
on the second one the series was run, run, run, pass, run, run, pass.

not a bad series. calling runs. making first downs. protecting the lead. chewing the clock (for 5 minutes). then he throws another bad pass to the WR. the reciver (robinson) is again well covered. he throws it where the reciever has no chance to make a play. the defender makes a great play and scores a TD. ..rare, but again, bad throw...like he didn't see the defender. same side,
.

So calling a pass play from shotgun on 3rd and 2 is not JG's fault? Last time I checked, JG is the OC. JG called that play. Not Romo.

When your running backs just ran for 7,6,4,7,1 yards, why not try to run again on 3rd and 2? At least don't run a pass play from the shotgun and let the whole world know it's a pass play.
 
Zman5;4159872 said:
So calling a pass play from shotgun on 3rd and 2 is not JG's fault? Last time I checked, JG is the OC. JG called that play. Not Romo.

When your running backs just ran for 7,6,4,7,1 yards, why not try to run again on 3rd and 2? At least don't run a pass play from the shotgun and let the whole world know it's a pass play.

Usually there two plays called into the huddle. The play and a kill play. Up to Romo to look at the coverage and see what will work. I doubt both plays were passing plays, but, they may have been. Maybe Romo saw something and then it was taken away by a hidden coverage on defense.

It's still on Romo.
 
Zman5;4159872 said:
So calling a pass play from shotgun on 3rd and 2 is not JG's fault? Last time I checked, JG is the OC. JG called that play. Not Romo.

When your running backs just ran for 7,6,4,7,1 yards, why not try to run again on 3rd and 2? At least don't run a pass play from the shotgun and let the whole world know it's a pass play.

nothing wrong with that play. you mix it up. punt it if you don't make it. perhaps JG should have called a run play. perhaps detroit was ready for a run play and Romo changed the play at the line. JG allows romo to do that based on the defensive front. detroit had 8 in the box.

but the throws were awful, awful, awful. rookie type throws. you don't expect those throws from a 9 year vet. if he puts the ball, where WR has a chance to make a play, we don't talk about this game. he put it where the defender could make a play and he did.

patriots made same calls yesterday. Houston made same calls yesterday. Commanders made the same calls yesterday.


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Hook'em#11;4159883 said:
Usually there two plays called into the huddle. The play and a kill play. Up to Romo to look at the coverage and see what will work. I doubt both plays were passing plays, but, they may have been. Maybe Romo saw something and then it was taken away by a hidden coverage on defense.
That's stupid, though. Remember the Skins game in 2008 when we did nothing, threw the ball 55 times or whatever it was, and it came out after the game that they were basically dictating to us whether we ran or passed?

After that game, Wade (speaking for Garrett of course) said we would change that so in certain situations so that we could have two run plays to choose from.

That's what we needed to do. We win that game if we just keep the clock moving and don't turn the ball over. We barely even needed to make a first down as little as the Lions' O was doing.
 
maybe garret is showing how he tanked wade phillips? Too much passing again! Maybe Romo is just this kind of QB so we can like him or not. No need to try to force your point on the forums and be right all the time!
 
CowboysFaninDC;4159844 said:
I went over the play by play. I watched the highlights and part of the game again. the interceptions were all on romo.

after we scored and went up 27-3. we started with a pass play. take the play if its there, otherwise throw it away....I am not sure what romo saw, but he threw to a well covered bryant (all you could see was the detroit player. Carpenter had assignment to cover underneath. he didn't even sneak into the play. Romo just threw it, into double coverage, where the play had no chance. he didn't even throw it high, so that maybe bryant goes up and gets the ball, or else it goes out of bounch. it was low.... very eerily similar to the int he threw to Revis in the jets game....

why? why did he feel he should make a throw to Dez...when he is well covered. brain faart!!!


on the second one the series was run, run, run, pass, run, run, pass.

not a bad series. calling runs. making first downs. protecting the lead. chewing the clock (for 5 minutes). then he throws another bad pass to the WR. the reciver (robinson) is again well covered. he throws it where the reciever has no chance to make a play. the defender makes a great play and scores a TD. ..rare, but again, bad throw...like he didn't see the defender. same side,

and on the 3rd one.....now, we are forced to make a play. he is going backwards, witten again double covered, not at the end, but the whole way. blanketed and sandwiched between two players. romo is falling or going backward, throws, from his backfoot, 30 yards down field. why? this is a mistake a rookie makes, not a 9 year veteran. you don't throw into double coverage from your back foot.

three brain farts.......now, 4 on the season.....

I don't care about accountability. I care about making smart plays. those weren't smart plays......what's going through Romo's mind when he makes those plays. not thinking? I am not sure. but its consistent.
you are wrong about the last 2 picks. WR has to get there. Robinson cannot let that happen. At the very least he has to get a offensive PI. That was just inexperience. That is a throw the QB has to make before the WR comes out of his break. The second...Witten had cleared the LBers...no safety back there. A little more on the throw and we win that game.
 
I think I have found the solution to the Cowboys problems. The Cowboys need a closer. Let Romo play the first couple of quarters, build a lead or whatever than put Kitna in there to get the save. :D
 
bbailey423;4159913 said:
you are wrong about the last 2 picks. WR has to get there. Robinson cannot let that happen. At the very least he has to get a offensive PI. That was just inexperience. That is a throw the QB has to make before the WR comes out of his break. The second...Witten had cleared the LBers...no safety back there. A little more on the throw and we win that game.

true, but you don't lead the wr, since the CB is covering him on the outside shoulder and is playing 3 yards off the line. your throw should be to his inside shoulder, away from the defenders hand on the right side. NFL QBs do this all the time. if the WR catches it, he is falling forward and makes the 1st down. don't give the defender a cahnce to get his hand in there to break a pass, even if Robinson is in position.
 
GIFTS;4159906 said:
maybe garret is showing how he tanked wade phillips? Too much passing again! Maybe Romo is just this kind of QB so we can like him or not. No need to try to force your point on the forums and be right all the time!

up until the end of the game.....were we passed 10 straight times...37 passes. 27 runs...that's a 58/42 pass run ration.....about average in the league.
 
Chocolate Lab;4159895 said:
That's what we needed to do. We win that game if we just keep the clock moving and don't turn the ball over. We barely even needed to make a first down as little as the Lions' O was doing.

This is what burns me more than anything. Could be wrong, but without giving the Lions momentum, i find it hard to believe that they score 24 points on our defense on long drives in 1.5 quarters. Not saying you have to "go into a shell" but if the game is managed as it should at that point we likely coast to victory.
 
Why even bother to run the ball, wouldnt you be risking a fumble there? I say just take a knee, punt and hope your defense doesnt get worn out. Obviously I am being funny, but the point is the same. You have to throw some passes, and he has to be able to rely on his QB to throw the ball away if nothing is there. Romo seems incapable of doing that.
 
Romo will be our qb for another 2-5 years. We just have to stick by him, and sooner or later he'll come up big for us. This year at least well be in the hunt all season.this loss hurts, but if we beat thr pats it wont matter as much.
 
people blaming Garrett are imbeciles.....if Garrett were to purposely call for Tony to throw a pick.....he still should be smart enough to NOT do it
 
The 1st pick was nice play by Barbie and a bad decision by Romo. This one bothered me the most.

The second pick was just a great defensive play and the WR got beat by the DB. Robinson played well yesterday but he blew that route and got beat.

The third pick could have been a TD if Romo had thrown the ball far enough. The receiver had gotten behind the coverage and Romo underthrew him. Not a bad decsion, but a bad throw.
 
DFWJC;4160118 said:
The 1st pick was nice play by Barbie and a bad decision by Romo. This one bothered me the most.

The second pick was just a great defensive play and the WR got beat by the DB. Robinson played well yesterday but he blew that route and got beat.

The third pick could have been a TD if Romo had thrown the ball far enough. The receiver had gotten behind the coverage and Romo underthrew him. Not a bad decsion, but a bad throw.

I agree with you assessment. I know some are saying Witten was doubled on that play but that is not quite true Witten had cleared both guys only reason it was picked was it was under thrown. If the ball is out front it is a big play.
 
Kill Kill Kill!

I haven't watched the game again, but I remember Romo audibling to PASS when there were 8 in the box.

Romo is responsible for throwing into well covered WRs and not managing the game appropriately.

But also, WHY was he audibling? Why not run the ball anyway with the big lead? It takes time off the clock, our defense was playing great, we have one of the best punters in history, let's not beat ourselves with a risky pass play.

I suspect Romo has been COACHED to audible when there are 8 in the box. I also suspect he has not been COACHED to run the ball anyway when he is playing with the above factors present.

In other words, Romo has a virus in his thinking - he has been programmed incorrectly.

The SCHEME is faulty. It doesn't have game managing situations programmed in. It needs an upgrade to Scheme 1.1 which tells the QB to run the ball anyway when there is 8 in the box when you are up big like this. To hell with the pass play.

Kill Kill Kill the earlier scheme version and download an upgrade!
 
Nirvana;4160135 said:
Kill Kill Kill!

I haven't watched the game again, but I remember Romo audibling to PASS when there were 8 in the box.

Romo is responsible for throwing into well covered WRs and not managing the game appropriately.

But also, WHY was he audibling? Why not run the ball anyway with the big lead? It takes time off the clock, our defense was playing great, we have one of the best punters in history, let's not beat ourselves with a risky pass play.

I suspect Romo has been COACHED to audible when there are 8 in the box. I also suspect he has not been COACHED to run the ball anyway when he is playing with the above factors present.

In other words, Romo has a virus in his thinking - he has been programmed incorrectly.

The SCHEME is faulty. It doesn't have game managing situations programmed in. It needs an upgrade to Scheme 1.1 which tells the QB to run the ball anyway when there is 8 in the box when you are up big like this. To hell with the pass play.

Kill Kill Kill the earlier scheme version and download an upgrade!
Some truth here.
He did also audible into some really fabulous plays for much of the game.

Two of the three TDs passes would not have occurred with most other QBs.

Of course, most good QBs would not have made that 1st pick to Barbie--though all have done it more than once in their careers.
 
DFWJC;4160155 said:
Some truth here.
He did also audible into some really fabulous plays for much of the game.

Two of the three TDs passes would not have occurred with most other QBs.

Of course, most good QBs would not have made that 1st pick to Barbie--though all have done it more than once in their careers.

Oh yes, I agree. I'll tell you what I think about Romo - he is one of the best at seeing and predicting what the defense is going to do. He is clearly a film study guy, and this guy knows how to get the ball down the field.

Problem is, he doesn't know when to tap the brakes. You hear them talking about playing for 60 minutes, the dirty little factoid with their assessment is that running the ball over and over up 27-3 would have caused that clock to tick down quite a bit - we were running the ball pretty well. Heck we had a fully gassed Tanner ready to go. Punting the ball and making them move down the field in our zone preventing big plays would have got that clock down even more. They WOULD have run out of time with this strategy.

Why wasn't it done though? I suspect there has been too much OUT with the OLD and IN with the NEW. Some of that Parcells style football, the Landry type of football, the Jimmy Johnson type of football, is what was missing yesterday. In other words, run the dang ball and don't turn the ball over.
 

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