Romo not our guy

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superpunk;1082855 said:
I do understand it. It's why the NFL is so great. Because every game is sooooo important, so we care soooo much. And with a losing record, I think it would be justified. We've spent almost the whole month on the road. I wonder how many of these people will be pessimists when we're rolling our home schedule late in the year.

I agree. 1 game is not a season and while Philly may have been a big game we have other big games down the road. I think too many put to much emphasis’s on this 1 game before the season even started and once we lost evidently to some that is the end of the season.
 

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2much2soon;1082851 said:
I think many were ready for this if Bledsoe reverted to the player he was that got him sent packing in NE and Buffalo.
We all had hopes that he would turn things around but it doesn't look like it is going to happen.
"Forfeiting every game" is a bit hyperbolic, isn't it?
There is no guarantee that Dallas will lose every game with Romo, but there is, in my mind, a guarantee that this team will go nowhere worth going with Bledsoe on his current path.
Couple that with Bledsoe's age and lack of upside for the future and moving to Romo now is the smartest choice.

Well I said forfeiting every game because the guy is talking about getting a good draft position. How else is that supposed to happen?? We have too much talent to have a top 10 pick, even with Romo IMO.

You guys need to get a grip. this isn't college football. We're not out of the BCS just yet.
 

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dannyz;1082627 said:
I am ready for change as much as the next fan is. Bledsoe will win us some games and I still think we go 10-6 this year. We will get into the playoffs, but will be hard pressed to win a game. That's my outlook on the season. However, when I think about putting in Romo, it looks even worse. I seriously do not think Romo is our guy. I think he is there and will play backup and we can use him if Bledsoe goes down, but I don't think Bill sees him as our guy for the future. Who is our future? Who knows, but probably another vet -- we have the team that is capable of making a solid run, but if Bledsoe can't do it this year, someone else will try, and Romo ain't that guy.

JMO

You don't think Bill sees him as our future? Are you serious?

Bill has gone to bat for Romo from day one. He's had a constant battle with Jerry Jones about Romo - Jones always preferred Henson.

Bill practically made it a mission to prove Romo could play this preseason, and he made it clear the reason was that he felt Romo could be a very good NFL QB, but he needed more opportunities to prove it and to gain experience.

Romo has performed well EVERY time he has played in the last 2 preseasons. While that is obviously not the same as playing in the regular season, logic dictates that an average or poor quality QB would have had poor showings in some of those games. The consistency over 2 preseasons is a huge plus. And he has started and played against opposing first units in many of those games - he hasn't just played in the 2nd half against 2nd and 3rd teamers the way most backups do.

And the final reason that Parcells sees Romo as the future ....... he has said so. He has said on a number of occassions that he believes Romo will be a quality NFL QB.
 

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peplaw06;1082868 said:
You guys need to get a grip. this isn't college football. We're not out of the BCS just yet.

Where's the sense with playing a guy that may get the team to 9-7 or 10-6, and if everything lines up perfectly, get into the playoffs and get smoked in the first round?
There aren't a lot of sure things in the NFL but I think that scenario is pretty close to one.
 

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2much2soon;1082889 said:
Where's the sense with playing a guy that may get the team to 9-7 or 10-6, and if everything lines up perfectly, get into the playoffs and get smoked in the first round?
There aren't a lot of sure things in the NFL but I think that scenario is pretty close to one.

Because last i checked, anything can happen in the playoffs. Correct me if i'm wrong, but I believe Pittsburgh was a 6 seed last year. And they won the Super Bowl with shoddy QB play.

Also... our late season schedule is set up very well to get on a hot streak going into the playoffs. Much like PIT last season. If we got hot, I wouldn't put anything out of our reach.
 

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peplaw06;1082919 said:
Because last i checked, anything can happen in the playoffs. Correct me if i'm wrong, but I believe Pittsburgh was a 6 seed last year. And they won the Super Bowl with shoddy QB play.

Also... our late season schedule is set up very well to get on a hot streak going into the playoffs. Much like PIT last season. If we got hot, I wouldn't put anything out of our reach.

I may be wrong, but Rothlisberger(sp?) even at his shoddiest never looked as bad as Bledsoe when the heat is on.
Heck, even as I was watching Pitt vs SD I was thinking about how relatively mobile and aware Rothlisberger looked in the pocket compared to Drew. And he is coming off a couple of major injuries.
 

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2much2soon;1082944 said:
I may be wrong, but Rothlisberger(sp?) even at his shoddiest never looked as bad as Bledsoe when the heat is on.
Heck, even as I was watching Pitt vs SD I was thinking about how relatively mobile and aware Rothlisberger looked in the pocket compared to Drew. And he is coming off a couple of major injuries.

Drew's rating last week @ Philly... 33.1

Ben's in SB XL... 22.6

Before you say Ben did it with his legs, they both had rushing TDs in those games.
 

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If Bledsoe throws for 400 yds and 5 td's vs Houston everyone here will be crowning him king again until the next loss.
 

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peplaw06;1082976 said:
Drew's rating last week @ Philly... 33.1

Ben's in SB XL... 22.6

Before you say Ben did it with his legs, they both had rushing TDs in those games.

So who would you rather have at this point?

And I wasn't going to say Ben did it with his legs, but what he did with his legs depends on your definition of that term.
Neither will rush for 80 yards a game and force teams to game plan for their running abilities. But I saw Ben sidestep rushers the other night and give himself more time. He didn't look like a stationary target like Drew does pracitically every time he drops back to pass.
 

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Yeagermeister;1083021 said:
If Bledsoe throws for 400 yds and 5 td's vs Houston everyone here will be crowning him king again until the next loss.


Not everyone. Like they say, you can forgive but never forget.
 

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Yeagermeister;1083021 said:
If Bledsoe throws for 400 yds and 5 td's vs Houston everyone here will be crowning him king again until the next loss.

And what if he holds the ball too long, gets sacked 5 times, with 3 interceptions and two fumbles?

2 Questions:

Can you live with Drew's sacks, interceptions and fumbles the rest of the season?

Can you live with Romo making the same mistakes?
 

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2much2soon;1083030 said:
So who would you rather have at this point?

And I wasn't going to say Ben did it with his legs, but what he did with his legs depends on your definition of that term.
Neither will rush for 80 yards a game and force teams to game plan for their running abilities. But I saw Ben sidestep rushers the other night and give himself more time. He didn't look like a stationary target like Drew does pracitically every time he drops back to pass.

My point was that anything can happen in the playoffs, and the Steelers won the SB despite the bad play of their QB. That's all. You're taking it into tangents.

Of course I'd rather have Ben, that's a no brainer... he's young and he's won the super bowl. Doesn't change the fact that he didn't play well in the super bowl though. Good teams with good defenses and running games can win super bowl's despite bad QB play... and can definitely do it with mediocre QB play. We've seen it time and again. Brad Johnson and Trent Dilfer have super bowl rings.

The ultimate point is that giving up on this season right now because of two bad games from our QB is ********. Especially seeing as we have the easiest part of our schedule the last 6 games. Any team can get hot, all you have to do is survive the tough stretches in the schedule.
 

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Yeagermeister;1083021 said:
If Bledsoe throws for 400 yds and 5 td's vs Houston everyone here will be crowning him king again until the next loss.

No they won't. Memories are longer than that. It has happened before -- with future bad results.
 

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Mr Cowboy;1083060 said:
And what if he holds the ball too long, gets sacked 5 times, with 3 interceptions and two fumbles?

2 Questions:

Can you live with Drew's sacks, interceptions and fumbles the rest of the season?

Can you live with Romo making the same mistakes?

If he plays that badly then he deserves to be benched.
 

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The idea of going for high draft pick is insane. The point of my post was that while I think we can get into the playoffs this year and that all things considered going 2-2 early on is not the end of the season by any stretch considering we have been on the road 3 of those games, I am worried that after putting everything on the line this year with Bledsoe and the big signings in the off-season we had, if we fall short of #6, we will be at square 1 next year. But maybe I'm wrong about Romo. Maybe Bill does believe he is the one for the future, or at least he has a lot of potential. But the past few quarterbacks we've had will Bill has been here sure have left a bad taste in my mouth. I just don't know if Bill has what it takes when selecting QB's -- espescially when he is it for the now, and not the future.

Here is my revamped season prediction

9/10 @ Jacksonville L 24-17
9/17 Washington W 27-10
10/1 @ Tennessee W 45-14
10/8 @ Philadelphia L 38-24
10/15 Houston WIN
10/23 NY Giants WIN
10/29 @ Carolina WIN
11/5 @ Washington LOSS
11/12 @ Arizona WIN
11/19 Indianapolis LOSS
11/23 Tampa Bay WIN
12/3 @ NY Giants LOSS
12/10 New Orleans WIN
12/16 @ Atlanta LOSS
12/25 Philadelphia WIN
12/31 Detroit WIN

Result: 10-6 and the @ATL and @WAS games are "can wins" though I marked them as losses, whereas NYG and PHI @home are "must wins".

Obviously I have only seen 4 games, just like everyone else, but after seeing what I saw at philly Sunday, I just can't feel good about our chances in the playoffs.
 
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