Romo, points scored...

[Gameover]

Here is what concerns me about Tony Romo. Even his suppoters have to be a little concerned about these facts:

In 2009, the Cowboys scored 22.1ppg.

In 2011, the Cowboys scored 23.1ppg.

In 2010, the first seven games of the Jason Garrett era, with John Kitna at QB, the Cowboys scored 31.8ppg.More than a TD difference!Jason Witten, Romo's so called security blanket, scored 6 of his career best 9 td's during this stretch.The Most he's scored over any seven game stretch in his career.

What has happened to Romo's ability to put points on the board?

The Offensive Line?Wasn't the line even worse when Kitna took over in 2010? He still found a way to put up 30+ ppg.

Was the first seven games of the JG era a fluke?

Does Tony Romo have trouble making reads down the field?The one thing I remember when Kitna took over was the big plays he made down the field.

I like Tony Romo. I root for Tony Romo. I would be more happy for Tony and his family if we won than I would be for myself as a Cowboy fan!I would love for Romo to shut up Gary Myers and the rest of the Eli lovin' New York media!


Tony has to put up at least 25ppg, if the Cowboys are to be any type a threat in 2012.

 

[Dodger]

Every year this comes up, and every year someone conveniently forgets the following:

Jaguars 35
Cowboys 17

Packers 45
Cowboys 7

 

[Gameover]

Every year this comes up, and every year someone conveniently forgets the following:

Jaguars 35
Cowboys 17

Packers 45
Cowboys 7

First seven games of the Jason Garrett era.Garrett wasn't the head coach in those games.

 

[Dodger]

First seven games of the Jason Garrett era.Garrett wasn't the coach in those games.

Doesn't matter. Kitna started those games. Why pretend like they didn't happen?

 

[Gameover]

Doesn't matter. Kitna started those games. Why pretend like they didn't happen?

I'm not.

It didn't matter who was at QB during those games, the team had rolled over like dogs.

I didn't count Romo's 7 point game(or any game in 2010) against him either.

 

[Galian Beast]

Here is what concerns me about Tony Romo. Even his suppoters have to be a little concerned about these facts:

In 2009, the Cowboys scored 22.1ppg.

In 2011, the Cowboys scored 23.1ppg.

In 2010, the first seven games of the Jason Garrett era, with John Kitna at QB, the Cowboys scored 31.8ppg.More than a TD difference!Jason Witten, Romo's so called security blanket, scored 6 of his career best 9 td's during this stretch.The Most he's scored over any seven game stretch in his career.

What has happened to Romo's ability to put points on the board?

The Offensive Line?Wasn't the line even worse when Kitna took over in 2010? He still found a way to put up 30+ ppg.

Was the first seven games of the JG era a fluke?

Does Tony Romo have trouble making reads down the field?The one thing I remember when Kitna took over was the big plays he made down the field.

I like Tony Romo. I root for Tony Romo. I would be more happy for Tony and his family if we won than I would be for myself as a Cowboy fan!I would love for Romo to shut up Gary Myers and the rest of the Eli lovin' New York media!


Tony has to put up at least 25ppg, if the Cowboys are to be any type a threat in 2012.

Texas Cherrypicker.

Tony Romo had 26 touchdowns in 2009, and he had 31 touchdowns in 2011... the reduction in points per game was a result of less rushing touchdowns.

Jon Kitna's touchdown percentage was 5.0 in 2010, but his interception percentage was 3.8.

Tony Romo's touchdown percentage in 2011 was 5.9, and his interception percentage was 1.9

 

[Dodger]

I'm not.

It didn't matter who was at QB during those games, the team had rolled over like dogs.

I didn't count Romo's 7 point game(or any game in 2010) against him either.

This is cherry picking stats. You're basically saying that in games where Kitna started, his "ability" to put points on the board was better than Romo's. Well, what happened to that ability in those two blowouts? After all, he still found a way, even with a worse OL.

Those are your words.

 

[Gameover]

Texas Cherrypicker.

Tony Romo had 26 touchdowns in 2009, and he had 31 touchdowns in 2011... the reduction in points per game was a result of less rushing touchdowns.

Jon Kitna's touchdown percentage was 5.0 in 2010, but his interception percentage was 3.8.

Tony Romo's touchdown percentage in 2011 was 5.9, and his interception percentage was 1.9

31.8 > 22.1, 23.1

This thread is not intended to be a bash on Romo.

 

[Gameover]

This is cherry picking stats. You're basically saying that in games where Kitna started, his "ability" to put points on the board was better than Romo's. Well, what happened to that ability in those two blowouts? After all, he still found a way, even with a worse OL.

Those are your words.

No cherry pick... The Cowboys still averaged 27ppg during 9 Kitna starts in 2010.A Romo offense hasn't got to that high an average since 2007.Happy now!

 

[Picksix]

Here is what concerns me about Tony Romo. Even his suppoters have to be a little concerned about these facts:

In 2009, the Cowboys scored 22.1ppg.

In 2011, the Cowboys scored 23.1ppg.

In 2010, the first seven games of the Jason Garrett era, with John Kitna at QB, the Cowboys scored 31.8ppg.More than a TD difference!Jason Witten, Romo's so called security blanket, scored 6 of his career best 9 td's during this stretch.The Most he's scored over any seven game stretch in his career.

What has happened to Romo's ability to put points on the board?

The Offensive Line?Wasn't the line even worse when Kitna took over in 2010? He still found a way to put up 30+ ppg.

Was the first seven games of the JG era a fluke?

Does Tony Romo have trouble making reads down the field?The one thing I remember when Kitna took over was the big plays he made down the field.

I like Tony Romo. I root for Tony Romo. I would be more happy for Tony and his family if we won than I would be for myself as a Cowboy fan!I would love for Romo to shut up Gary Myers and the rest of the Eli lovin' New York media!


Tony has to put up at least 25ppg, if the Cowboys are to be any type a threat in 2012.

I think this may be one of those situations where the stats don't tell the whole story.

Are those numbers purely offensive scores, or total points? I think one thing you have to remember about the Garrett/Kitna "era" was that our defense under Pasqualoni, although still very porous, created a lot more turnovers than the Wade/Ryan defenses. The assistance that gives the offense can't be understated. Plus, McCann had 2 TD's himself (one picksix, one PR). How often has Romo befefitted from that?

Also, how many deep plays down the field did Kitna really have? I remember reading KC Joyner (who develops a lot of metrics for ESPN) writing about how Kitna actually had a pretty low rate of deep plays during that stretch, which was against his nature. You do make a good point about Witten scoring more while he was QB, though, which I find interesting, given how some have accused Romo of throwing to Witten too much.

I wonder if defenses put more players in the box when Kitna was QB, thinking we would run the ball more. That's purely specualtion on my part.

 

[Dodger]

No cherry pick... I didn't count either QB's production during the time it was obvious the team had a dead coach walking(Phillips) on the sidelines.

I just don't see what difference that makes. I think it was pretty obvious that Phillips was on his way out after the loss at home against Tennessee after the bye. I think it's also pretty obvious that with a new coach, one who expected accountability from players on this team for the first time since Parcells left the building, came immediate improved play and that you are discounting that effect and giving all the credit to Kitna. Why, I don't know because if you look at both QB's stats for that season, Kitna's are inferior to Romo's across the board.

 

[Galian Beast]

31.8 > 22.1, 23.1

This thread is not intended to be a bash on Romo.

And again, the difference comes from points that are not related to passing...

 

[Dodger]

And again, the difference comes from points that are not related to passing...

That's an excellent point. Let's look at QB production in 2010.

Romo threw 11 TDs in 5 and a half games.
Kitna threw 16 TDs in 9 and a half games.

Romo's production was clearly superior, 2 TDs a game compared to Kitna's 1.6.


This thread is done.

 

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

 

[Questfor6]

You do realize Romo was injured in week 2 last yr & really wasn't healthy for about a month & a half after that? Do you remember Kitna in the San Fran game I think he had more picks than completions. Like a few others stated our running game has sucked, especially in the redzone. Hopefully with Callahan running the line now maybe these guys will get it squared away.

 

[DallasDW00ds0n]

Are you taking into consideration the cowboys had 5 rushing TDs on the season and 1 of them is Tony? Lol

 

[big dog cowboy]

Tony has to put up at least 25ppg, if the Cowboys are to be any type a threat in 2012.

The type threat we are this year will be completely dependent on the level of success our defense experiences.

 

[SDCowboy]

You realize Romo had the 5th most TD's in the league...right? Points scored isn't just a QB thing. It's amazing the amount of people that don't understand football at all yet post on football forums...

 

[SDCowboy]

Are you taking into consideration the cowboys had 5 rushing TDs on the season and 1 of them is Tony? Lol

Amazing isn't it?

 

[Lodeus]

So the idea for this thread was to try prove Kitna > Romo?