Romo, Prescott and Playoff Success

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It still can be with the right offseason, player, personnel and draft moves.
unfortunately, that's not the case. We have a problem and it's been staring us in the face for a long time. It doesn't matter who the HC is. It doesn't matter who the QB is. We are getting the same result year after year with one BIG constant. That's our problem and we won't even sniff a NFC Championship in my lifetime. 1996 was my last Cowboys big win and it's the same time my wife and I started dating. I guess it won't get better than that. :p
 

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Tony Romo. Ten seasons as the starting quarterback. No championships.

Flashback to 2016. Some people (ironically a few of which who have since changed their opinion here on CowboysZone) said Romo was replaced by a "better postseason quarterback", which brings us back to:

Dak Prescott. Eight seasons as the starting quarterback. No championships.

Dallas' playoff records under each quarterback:

2-4 Romo
2-5 Prescott

Certainly, the thread will attract the same replies as any other. Insults. Attacks. Namecalling. Etc. The usual. I only ask for a few members, who made the claim back in 2016, within the midst of the euphoria of a winning season that overwhelmed Jerry Jones and some fans alike, to answer one question:

Was your assumption correct?
8 years ago I think I still believed the culture would prevent any sustained success. Now I believe the Jones cancer is so bad it will prevent any a chance of success. In 2016 Romo was nearly cooked. He could have played for another team if he was able to. He didn’t.
 

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Romo was done physically. He couldn't take three snaps without breaking a bone. Giving it to Dak at that point was the correct decision. I've never been a hug fan of either QB because quite frankly Romo would choke and Dak disappears when the stakes are too high. There was no correct answer. I guess I was wrong because I supported having a new QB who hasn't gotten it done either.
Yeah if it's a question of should Romo gotten his job back in 2016, the answer is still 'no' for me for this reason.

A healthy Romo would probably have given us a better chance, but he almost certainly would not have remained healthy. I think people forget he was basically made of glass since the end of the 2013 season.

Also, it is a certainty Dak was going to be the future anyway. Romo was 36.
 

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The QB position in Dallas is probably the most overwhelming position in sports at this point. The amount of pressure that comes from the expectations that go with the position has never been higher. The team had a look on their faces and body language that showed that pressure on full display.
 

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unfortunately, that's not the case. We have a problem and it's been staring us in the face for a long time. It doesn't matter who the HC is. It doesn't matter who the QB is. We are getting the same result year after year with one BIG constant. That's our problem and we won't even sniff a NFC Championship in my lifetime. 1996 was my last Cowboys big win and it's the same time my wife and I started dating. I guess it won't get better than that. :p
For both of our sake, I hope you're wrong brother.
 

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The QB position in Dallas is probably the most overwhelming position in sports at this point. The amount of pressure that comes from the expectations that go with the position has never been higher. The team had a look on their faces and body language that showed that pressure on full display.
Absolutely

That annoyed the crap out of me yesterday. On offense, they simply were just pressing too hard.

Ultimately, it was not the same vibe as the rest of the season. They got in their own heads.
 

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There’s a pretty big difference between a 25 year old 4 year QB with 2 playoff wins and a 30 year old 8 year starter with 2 playoff wins.

I promise you if Jalen gets to the point Dak is at, I’ll be the first one to show him the door. But that won’t happen because Howie would dump him way before then like he did Wentz so we actually have a chance. Eternal Groundhog’s Day is a far worse fate than a couple losing seasons to get a better QB
Jalen Hurts is not Eben going to survive today. lol
 

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What playoff success? There isn't any.


Dak is Romo 2.0. No better, no worse.
Great point......very similar......except the Romo lovefest is overwhelming........both ringless.
 

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I forgot to answer the actual question. Anyone can look back on my posts during the time where the team was getting into QB controversy mode back in 2016. I said it was a dumb decision. It was never about Dak vs Romo, but about whether the team could be even better under the savvier, more talented and experienced QB. Starters should never lose their jobs to injury, and believing in "voodoo" harming win streaks due to a change and platitudes such as chemistry and leadership are not how you objectively assess actual football matters. Garrett was a sycophantic politician through and through, who only kept his job for so long because of Romo keeping terrible teams at .500, his family's past relationship with the Jones family, and nostalgia from the 90s and that Thanksgiving "throw the ball up" game. Even the credit given to him by some for finally upgrading the offensive line by 2014 is just football 101 (build in the trenches). Dak is in the same mold. A guy who knows his limitations but will say the right things to keep his job. He's just not good enough.

Also, I believe in Karma, "what goes around comes around", "you reap what you sow", etc., however you phrase it. If you make wrongful decisions, persist in them, and don't change course because you refuse to learn from history, you deserve the ramifications. It's the definition of insanity given by Einstein. All of those who were willfully bashing and repeatedly (and IMO, wrongfully) calling Romo a choker were "rewarded" with an even bigger one.
 

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Is that a yes or no?

I didn't think anyone was better in 2016. Just the ride the hot hand made sense. And unfortunately Romo at that point had plenty of chances and couldn't capitalize and was broken in 16.
So, maybe this thread wasn't for me.
 

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Its clear that the decision to stick with Dak was the wrong decision and set this franchise back for years.
It's what happens when you fail to actually accurately evaluate talent. The biggest part of all this I will put on Jerry and his front office. This group makes no moves to bolster the team. There is no "win now mode" with these guys. They think that their guys are the best in the league across and just roll with the same crap with no real moves to actually make the team better. They overpay "their guys" and think that just by virtue of having a star on their helmet that they are better than everyone else. Garbage organization is what Jerry has created.
 

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Tony Romo. Ten seasons as the starting quarterback. No championships.

Flashback to 2016. Some people (ironically a few of which who have since changed their opinion here on CowboysZone) said Romo was replaced by a "better postseason quarterback", which brings us back to:

Dak Prescott. Eight seasons as the starting quarterback. No championships.

Dallas' playoff records under each quarterback:

2-4 Romo
2-5 Prescott

Certainly, the thread will attract the same replies as any other. Insults. Attacks. Namecalling. Etc. The usual. I only ask for a few members, who made the claim back in 2016, within the midst of the euphoria of a winning season that overwhelmed Jerry Jones and some fans alike, to answer one question:

Was your assumption correct?
As much as I think Dak is a choker, he wasn't back then. he's changed. Staying with him in 2016 was the right decision regardless. Do I think he should have kept the job? No, there should have been a QB competition but I get why there wasn't. Romo couldn't stay healthy even if he was a better QB. Dak's ankle injury seems to be when he developed the choke. it was the defense that torpedoed 2016, not the QB. Dak/Romo? Same result because neither would have been the downfall that year but Dak was the hot hand.
 

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Perhaps. But that doesn’t make it okay for Dallas to keep doing the same thing over and over, because Philly will eventually get it right if you don’t put up a better fight
You're not wrong

For the flaws that exist with Philly, they are at least committed to trying to win. Sometimes the moves they make are misguided or impatient, but they're trying.

As long as Jerry's wallet is fine, he's fine.
 

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The thread question had nothing to do with decision-making, which quarterback is better, etc. Some observers thought Prescott would be a postseason upgrade over Romo. In the postseason, Romo led teams to a 2-4 record. Prescott has led teams to a 2-5 record.

The current answer is no. If Prescott leads teams to an eventual higher winning percentage in the post season, the answer would then change to yes.
 
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