Romo vs other QB's - playoffs

[DBOY3141]

I took a look at some other QB's that the media loves and that you don't hear them get on about being chokers or they need to step up. I'm a Romo fan and I realize he's not great but in time I think he can be.

Peyton Manning - 1 Super Bowl win, combined playoff record 7-8 with 5 1 and done. Take away his SB year and he's 3-8.

Eli Manning - 1 Super Bowl win, cominbed playoff record 4-3 with 3 1 and done. Take away his SB year and he's 0-3.

Drew Brees - no Super Bowls, comined playoff record 1-2. he's been starting since 2002 and has had 2 playoff apperances.

Carson Palmer - no Super Bowls, combined playoff record 0-1. Has only been to the playoffs once since he was drafted.

Jay Cutler - no Super Bowls, no playoff appearances. Has only started two years.

I know there are alot of successful QB's (Brady/McNabb/Rivers/Big Ben) but when you break down the numbers on what makes a successful QB, I think the media does Romo a disservice compared to other QB's.

Super Bowls in my opinion get to much attention when it comes to the success of a QB. I'd gladly take Dan Marino, Jim Kelly, Fran Tarkenton over most of these guys and they never won a SB between the 3 of them.

 

[THUMPER]

I took a look at some other QB's that the media loves and that you don't hear them get on about being chokers or they need to step up. I'm a Romo fan and I realize he's not great but in time I think he can be.

Peyton Manning - 1 Super Bowl win, combined playoff record 7-8 with 5 1 and done. Take away his SB year and he's 3-8.

Eli Manning - 1 Super Bowl win, cominbed playoff record 4-3 with 3 1 and done. Take away his SB year and he's 0-3.

Drew Brees - no Super Bowls, comined playoff record 1-2. he's been starting since 2002 and has had 2 playoff apperances.

Carson Palmer - no Super Bowls, combined playoff record 0-1. Has only been to the playoffs once since he was drafted.

Jay Cutler - no Super Bowls, no playoff appearances. Has only started two years.

I know there are alot of successful QB's (Brady/McNabb/Rivers/Big Ben) but when you break down the numbers on what makes a successful QB, I think the media does Romo a disservice compared to other QB's.

Super Bowls in my opinion get to much attention when it comes to the success of a QB. I'd gladly take Dan Marino, Jim Kelly, Fran Tarkenton over most of these guys and they never won a SB between the 3 of them.

HEY! What are you trying to do here pal? Make it look like Romo's not that bad or something? That he actually compares well with his peers? Get real man! Don't you know that Romo sucks! And he is the reason why we don't play well in December and the playoffs? Sheesh! You just don't get it do you buddy?


Thanks for the post, it helps bring some sense of reality to the agenda-driven BS tossed around these days.

 

[DallasDomination]

You can't take away Sb's to swing a debate in your favour. Bottom line, Romo is 0-2 in the playoffs and The cowboys have been terrible in december. Romo is a choker untill He proves us differently.

It's just that simple. Accept it and support Romo for the future. He has good tools, a good arm and a decent team around him. But so far He hasnt done it. poeple need to accept this.

 

[Doomsday101]

You can't take away Sb's to swing a debate in your favour. Bottom line, Romo is 0-2 in the playoffs and The cowboys have been terrible in december. Romo is a choker untill He proves us differently.

It's just that simple. Accept it and support Romo for the future. He has good tools, a good arm and a decent team around him. But so far He hasnt done, poeple need to accept this.

I accept the fact that this team has not played well late in the season and that has to change.

 

[NeonNinja]

Exactly, the team has played poorly and that does need to change.

 

[twentytwo]

It's all because he is the quarterback of the Dallas Cowboys. He's broken records. He's shown a ton of promise. Still though, people forget he's only started for 2 whole seasons. I'm not trying to make any excuses for him, just agreeing that people are a lot more critical of him than of other quarterbacks.

I'm pretty sure Peyton didn't win a playoff game until his 6th season as a starter.

 

[superpunk]

I was listening to ESPN radio and they had Merrill Hoge on and for some reason they were asking which QBs Hoge would take over Romo.

All things considered, he only bit on Roethlisberger for sure and maybe Matt Ryan.

I tend to agree. The only QB I might add is Drew Brees, and he's not exactly hailed as a playoff dynamo, through no fault of his own.

 

[THUMPER]

I accept the fact that this team has not played well late in the season and that has to change.

I totally agree. To blame those collapses on Romo is ridiculous. The WHOLE TEAM has played poorly in December and the playoffs, not just Romo, and that includes the coaching staff as well.

 

[NeonNinja]

Romo hasn't played great, but it's the team that failed not just Romo.

 

[Idgit]

I was listening to ESPN radio and they had Merrill Hoge on and for some reason they were asking which QBs Hoge would take over Romo.

All things considered, he only bit on Roethlisberger for sure and maybe Matt Ryan.

I tend to agree. The only QB I might add is Drew Brees, and he's not exactly hailed as a playoff dynamo, through no fault of his own.

Brees, no doubt. I'm not so sure about ROFLisberger, but he's a very good QB. Ryan is one playoff loss in being in Romo's choker-boat if we're judging by Cowboy QB standards.

 

[superpunk]

Brees, no doubt. I'm not so sure about ROFLisberger, but he's a very good QB. Ryan is one playoff loss in being in Romo's choker-boat if we're judging by Cowboy QB standards.

I only agreed with Ryan because I think it would be cool if our QB's nickname was "Matty Ice".

 

[TellerMorrow34]

You can't take away Sb's to swing a debate in your favour. Bottom line, Romo is 0-2 in the playoffs and The cowboys have been terrible in december. Romo is a choker untill He proves us differently.

It's just that simple. Accept it and support Romo for the future. He has good tools, a good arm and a decent team around him. But so far He hasnt done it. poeple need to accept this.

I'd admit that the entire team has played poorly down the stretch and that they all need to step up and improve their game late in the year.

This idea that we fade down the stretch entirely because of Romo is false and wrong. Romo fades, yes, partially because of himself and also because his O-Line plays piss poor down the stretch, his receivers aren't getting open like they do earlier in the year, and our defense seems to allow big drives and/or plays in clutch situations down the stretch that they might not otherwise allow.

It's a combination of all of the team playing poorly down the stretch, not just one guy.

 

[Idgit]

I only agreed with Ryan because I think it would be cool if our QB's nickname was "Matty Ice".

Love Ryan, but any QB who throws a playoff game against a lousy 9-7 squad is a choker in my book.

Atlanta should have rolled AZ as bad as the Cardinals were playing at the end of the season. The only reasonable conclusion to come to is that Ryan is pretty mediocre.

Like I said, I'm a big Ryan fan, so I'll give him one more year to see if he develops, but I'd definitely bring in someone like Leftwich or maybe Dilfer to push him a little bit.

 

[RedRaiderCowboysFan]

I took a look at some other QB's that the media loves and that you don't hear them get on about being chokers or they need to step up. I'm a Romo fan and I realize he's not great but in time I think he can be.

Peyton Manning - 1 Super Bowl win, combined playoff record 7-8 with 5 1 and done. Take away his SB year and he's 3-8.

Eli Manning - 1 Super Bowl win, cominbed playoff record 4-3 with 3 1 and done. Take away his SB year and he's 0-3.

Drew Brees - no Super Bowls, comined playoff record 1-2. he's been starting since 2002 and has had 2 playoff apperances.

Carson Palmer - no Super Bowls, combined playoff record 0-1. Has only been to the playoffs once since he was drafted.

Jay Cutler - no Super Bowls, no playoff appearances. Has only started two years.

I know there are alot of successful QB's (Brady/McNabb/Rivers/Big Ben) but when you break down the numbers on what makes a successful QB, I think the media does Romo a disservice compared to other QB's.

Super Bowls in my opinion get to much attention when it comes to the success of a QB. I'd gladly take Dan Marino, Jim Kelly, Fran Tarkenton over most of these guys and they never won a SB between the 3 of them.

More bias, one sided illogical thinking. Everyone wants to keep talking about how the entire team plays bad in December and not just romo but on this post your only talking about the qb and not their entire team situations. If you look at their situations and compare it to what romo has had, any of those qb's wouldnt probably be undefeated in the playoffs with Dallas, and their respective teams would all have losses. Did you forget Carson Palmer got his knee blown out on his first play? So tell me how that can count against him? The fact is they are just better qb's, and the only argument people on here can make for romo is nothing other then maybe stats, or because romo is a cowboy they "like" him better so therefore that makes him better then any other qb. Style points dont win SuperBowls, so what if romo has team records for passing, that must mean he is better then Aikman and Staubach huh?

So keep trying to tell yourself that if you take away from all the accomplishments these other qbs have, then that will elevate romo. Its pretty sad the lenghts people go to too elevate him, probably overcompensating for knowing deep down that he sucks. Well see this season if his ints go way up and tds go way down? Without Owens, who will be the scapegoat for romos shortcomings? The defense could give up 3 points a game and if romo throws 4 ints, most would stay its still the defenses's fault for not coming up with the big stop. The season cant get here fast enough.

 

[DBOY3141]

More bias, one sided illogical thinking. Everyone wants to keep talking about how the entire team plays bad in December and not just romo but on this post your only talking about the qb and not their entire team situations. If you look at their situations and compare it to what romo has had, any of those qb's wouldnt probably be undefeated in the playoffs with Dallas, and their respective teams would all have losses. Did you forget Carson Palmer got his knee blown out on his first play? So tell me how that can count against him? The fact is they are just better qb's, and the only argument people on here can make for romo is nothing other then maybe stats, or because romo is a cowboy they "like" him better so therefore that makes him better then any other qb. Style points dont win SuperBowls, so what if romo has team records for passing, that must mean he is better then Aikman and Staubach huh?

So keep trying to tell yourself that if you take away from all the accomplishments these other qbs have, then that will elevate romo. Its pretty sad the lenghts people go to too elevate him, probably overcompensating for knowing deep down that he sucks. Well see this season if his ints go way up and tds go way down? Without Owens, who will be the scapegoat for romos shortcomings? The defense could give up 3 points a game and if romo throws 4 ints, most would stay its still the defenses's fault for not coming up with the big stop. The season cant get here fast enough.

My point on this topic is that Romo is a good QB and the media makes him the scapegoat for our lack of success in Dec/Jan whereas you don't hear a peep about the other QB's.

Manning, Peyton - yes he has won SB, but his playoff success isn't great. This year the Colts were 12-4 and lost to the 8-8 Chargers. Was it all Manning's fault, no, but if that had been the Cowboys, Romo would have been drug for days by the media.

Palmer - I realize he had his knee blown out by Pittsburgh, but up until this year Cincy has been pretty stacked on offense, yet they can't make the playoffs. Again, not all Palmers fault, but let that be the Cowboys and see how the media tee's off.

Brees - same story as all the rest, can't say he's a good QB if he's not successfull in leading the team to playoff victories, at least that's what the media says.

To me the only game that falls directly on Romo for a loss this year is Pittsburgh.

Washington - defense and playcalling
Arizona - special teams and oline
Giants - Romo didn't play
Rams - Romo didn't play
Baltimore - defense. Romo hung what 24 on that great defense, yet the defense gives up an 82 and 77 yard TD runs
Philly - whole team quit

 

[Vintage]

Sure, let's remove Peyton's Super Bowl year... no problem. He's now 3-8. And if we remove the years he won playoff games, he's probably something like 0-5. Thats worse than Romo!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(Epic fail in your logic).

 

[jobberone]

None of those QBs are THE QB of the Dallas Cowboys. That's like CF used to be for the Yankees. There is no other team sport where one position gets so much credit and so much blame. I do think until you win in the playoffs and particularly a SB you aren't going to get the respect your play perhaps should receive.

The real measure IMO is which QB would you swap st8 up for Romo?

 

[CF74]

So keep trying to tell yourself that if you take away from all the accomplishments these other qbs have, then that will elevate romo. Its pretty sad the lenghts people go to too elevate him, probably overcompensating for knowing deep down that he sucks. Well see this season if his ints go way up and tds go way down? Without Owens, who will be the scapegoat for romos shortcomings? The defense could give up 3 points a game and if romo throws 4 ints, most would stay its still the defenses's fault for not coming up with the big stop. The season cant get here fast enough.

It's Romo's fault Fasano dropped a TD pass in the playoffs against the Giants, or TO dropped multiple passes in that game, & of course it's Romo's fault Crayton stopped on that route for the endzone. Any of those receivers makes a play and this post never exists. The only thing that sucks is your opinion, oh and the redraiders suck to....

 

[Boyzmamacita]

It's Romo's fault Fasano dropped a TD pass in the playoffs against the Giants, or TO dropped multiple passes in that game, & of course it's Romo's fault Crayton stopped on that route for the endzone. Any of those receivers makes a play and this post never exists. The only thing that sucks is your opinion, oh and the redraiders suck to....

Our receivers messed up royally in that game and Glenn (another receiver) hurt us a year earlier in Seattle. Makes you wonder what would've happened the last few years if our receivers were more clutch. Romo would be more respected. That's for sure.

 

[Big D]

It's Romo's fault Fasano dropped a TD pass in the playoffs against the Giants, or TO dropped multiple passes in that game, & of course it's Romo's fault Crayton stopped on that route for the endzone. Any of those receivers makes a play and this post never exists. The only thing that sucks is your opinion, oh and the redraiders suck to....

Our receivers messed up royally in that game and Glenn (another receiver) hurt us a year earlier in Seattle. Makes you wonder what would've happened the last few years if our receivers were more clutch. Romo would be more respected. That's for sure.

Don't forget the stellar special teams performances!