Romo's Play

Mr Cowboy;3573278 said:
The darn shotgun is killing him. Garrett is so in love with the shotgun, he doesn't realize it puts the OL and Romo at a disadvantage. There is not threat of run or play action. The defense knows a pass is coming and has nothing else to worry about. Romo gets no roll outs or anything. You look at Brees and Schaub and play action is their friend. Not here and not for Romo.

I agree on this 110%, we need to use play action more often, forget about shotgun formation, that doesnt help, we need to be able to create doubts (pass or run) on the opponent defense and play action calls will help us do that.
 
ABQCOWBOY;3573172 said:
It's hard to point to Romo and say that his play is poor. I mean, he has posted better numbers every year and we have had success as a team, even if it was not the level of success we have wanted as fans.

However, one of the things I absolutely believe has gone down hill, these past few years, are the mechanics of Romo. He has so much natural ability that he makes you forget about this but, I just watch Romo and I see him making decisions or sailing the ball or whatever it might be and I can't help but wonder if it was a bad decision to get rid of a QB coach. I know he works with Garrett and Garrett believes that he can do it but honestly, I do believe that Romo has regressed just a bit in this area. I know there is a fine line between restricting too much and not enough but it just seems as if Tony could benefit from this. It was talked about when we first let Wade go but it really hasn't been discussed much since. I wonder if it is time to revisit this. Lord knows that Garrett had better figure something out because we are not seeing the results we should be from this offense IMO.

The INT for Miles was on Romo and so was the INT to Witten IMO. He threw medicine balls to both Roy and Witten. I know your going to get hit but it just seems as if we are seeing a lot of throws that are resulting in negative results. Could be the result of how many times we are throwing but I just wonder if a QB coach would help focus things again?

Romo did not have a good preseason...several noted his throws werent as accurate. I am big believer in Romo...but he hasnt been the same since start of Minny game.
 
Yakuza Rich;3573243 said:
Romo is at his best when he can throw intermediate length pass patterns, sprinkle in some deep stuff and then check down to some short stuff. He also works best when he can roll out and throw or even better, when he gets to step up into the pocket and fire. Instead we've become a short pass offense that doesn't scare anybody deep.

actually, I think he's at his best when our running game works ...
 
Wood;3573705 said:
Romo did not have a good preseason...several noted his throws werent as accurate. I am big believer in Romo...but he hasnt been the same since start of Minny game.

I think he releases passes too quickly sometimes because he has zero faith in our line.

I also think he's frustrated out there. Just he's tired of throwing 50+ passes and having to throw non-working WR screens and stuff.
 
I can't believe you can possibly blame that first INT on Romo. Not every single pass is going to be perfect. Austin caught it completely then the ball was hit and and a freak play was made.
 
I also don't get how people can say Romo hasn't been accurate. He's threw 51 times yesterday and had a 67% completion. That's fantastic.
 
Wood;3573705 said:
Romo did not have a good preseason...several noted his throws werent as accurate. I am big believer in Romo...but he hasnt been the same since start of Minny game.

I don't think a QB coach could hurt. I see him doing things that I know he should not be doing. This is not to say he is a bad QB. On the contrary. He is so good, that he believes he can make any throw, do anything. Sometimes, a coach can help you stay grounded. If you have everybody telling you how great you are, it's easy to miss the things you may not be doing as well as you could.
 
ABQCOWBOY;3573287 said:
When I watch our Offense Rich, I don't ever get the sense that we have a good idea of what we are supposed to be. We have a pounding back that we never use to pound with. We have a game breaking back that we never get out in space and throw the ball to. We have 3 WRs that could all stretch the field but we never do that with any of them. We have two TEs who we could pressure the seam with but we never really do that. We have the biggest OL in the NFL but we are throwing the ball, dinking and dunking 50 times a game. It's like we have no identity on Offense. Honestly, I don't know if our guys know who or what they are supposed to be in this offense?

Great Post!

Romo looks like he has lost his confidence yest he is surrounded with all kinds of weapons. The QB is the heart and soul of the team. He is looks unconfident and confused so will the team. It time for Tony to become a leader and take the bull by the horns.
 
Cas2800;3573771 said:
Great Post!

Romo looks like he has lost his confidence yest he is surrounded with all kinds of weapons. The QB is the heart and soul of the team. He is looks unconfident and confused so will the team. It time for Tony to become a leader and take the bull by the horns.
Wouldn't you lose confidence if you had to overcome impossible odds to succeed on this team? Romo and Miles are the only reason we are even comparative. Tony has to overcome dropped passes for INTs, a line that gets him nearly killed every snap, constant drive killing penalties and receivers fumbling the ball.
 
Two things I think with Romo:
1) Something is off (be it mechanics, his shoulder, or the general state of the line, playcalling, personnel) with his accuracy. He used to be a master of leading WRs and hitting them on the run, particularly in clutch situations. Maybe it was like last year and he's either hurt, or, as Bob Sturm pointed out, maybe our camps aren't pushing him hard enough and he needs a few games to iron it out.

2) I think Romo was at his best when he was using his instincts as a "distibuter" rather than what I think I see more and more of now, which is him focusing on a WR or two and trying to force the execution of the play. What I mean is, I remember the thing I loved about Romo is he played QB like a pass-first point guard, just get it to the open guy, read progression quickly, etc...perhaps this is due to playcalling...but something feels different about his game.

just two observations, could or could not be accurated.
 
Isn't Wade Wilson the QB Coach or has he gone somewhere and I missed it?
 
WoodysGirl;3573831 said:
Isn't Wade Wilson the QB Coach or has he gone somewhere and I missed it?


Actually WG, he may be. I don't know if he's still with the team or not. I know he left for the Bears then came back and was suspended but I lost track of him after that. He actually may be back. If he is, I don't see him much.
 
SDCowboy85;3573779 said:
Wouldn't you lose confidence if you had to overcome impossible odds to succeed on this team? Romo and Miles are the only reason we are even comparative. Tony has to overcome dropped passes for INTs, a line that gets him nearly killed every snap, constant drive killing penalties and receivers fumbling the ball.

I dont think there are impossible odds. People are going to drop passes, RB are going to fumble, but the QB has to be the heart of the team. He needs to keep his composure and not hang his head as the leader. He has not been sacked once and although he was under some pressure the first game, i feel the protection was much better yet he was still rattled.
 
Maybe his mechanics are flawed due to how fat he is now. Its hard to throw an accurate pass with a flabby body. [sarcasm]
 
vlad;3573790 said:
Two things I think with Romo:
1) Something is off (be it mechanics, his shoulder, or the general state of the line, playcalling, personnel) with his accuracy. He used to be a master of leading WRs and hitting them on the run, particularly in clutch situations. Maybe it was like last year and he's either hurt, or, as Bob Sturm pointed out, maybe our camps aren't pushing him hard enough and he needs a few games to iron it out.

2) I think Romo was at his best when he was using his instincts as a "distibuter" rather than what I think I see more and more of now, which is him focusing on a WR or two and trying to force the execution of the play. What I mean is, I remember the thing I loved about Romo is he played QB like a pass-first point guard, just get it to the open guy, read progression quickly, etc...perhaps this is due to playcalling...but something feels different about his game.

just two observations, could or could not be accurated.

When he first came up, Parcells harped on two things with him. 1) make smart plays and 2) get rid of the ball quickly. That's, what I believe he did under Parcells and I think he was pretty darn good at it.
 
Cas2800;3573872 said:
I dont think there are impossible odds. People are going to drop passes, RB are going to fumble, but the QB has to be the heart of the team. He needs to keep his composure and not hang his head as the leader. He has not been sacked once and although he was under some pressure the first game, i feel the protection was much better yet he was still rattled.

Yeah they will do that, but these all happen in each game. If there wasn't two freak INTs you don't think we would have scored on one of those? What about if Roy hadn't fumbled? What if we didn't have a drive killing penalty every SINGLE time this offense gets rolling? Nobody can overcome those odds. And to say Romo was rattle is off base. You don't throw for almost 70% completion on 51 throws if you're rattled.
 
ABQCOWBOY;3573172 said:
It's hard to point to Romo and say that his play is poor. I mean, he has posted better numbers every year and we have had success as a team, even if it was not the level of success we have wanted as fans.

However, one of the things I absolutely believe has gone down hill, these past few years, are the mechanics of Romo. He has so much natural ability that he makes you forget about this but, I just watch Romo and I see him making decisions or sailing the ball or whatever it might be and I can't help but wonder if it was a bad decision to get rid of a QB coach. I know he works with Garrett and Garrett believes that he can do it but honestly, I do believe that Romo has regressed just a bit in this area. I know there is a fine line between restricting too much and not enough but it just seems as if Tony could benefit from this. It was talked about when we first let Wade go but it really hasn't been discussed much since. I wonder if it is time to revisit this. Lord knows that Garrett had better figure something out because we are not seeing the results we should be from this offense IMO.

The INT for Miles was on Romo and so was the INT to Witten IMO. He threw medicine balls to both Roy and Witten. I know your going to get hit but it just seems as if we are seeing a lot of throws that are resulting in negative results. Could be the result of how many times we are throwing but I just wonder if a QB coach would help focus things again?

People always point out what kind of accurate QB Romo is. I just can't understand that.

From what i see Romo is able to deliver accurate passes but then again he throws bad ones too. Often his balls are behind the WR and it doesn't seem to get better in the last 2 to 3 years. It's more like getting worse.

He may be able to throw accurate passes but he isn't able to do so on a consistent basis. If you were a hater you could argue he is only lucky on those accurate ones. I for myself think he should put some serious work on that problem. And a problem it is to me. I too think at least two INTs were his fault becuase his pass was not on target.
 
TwentyOne;3573937 said:
People always point out what kind of accurate QB Romo is. I just can't understand that.

From what i see Romo is able to deliver accurate passes but then again he throws bad ones too. Often his balls are behind the WR and it doesn't seem to get better in the last 2 to 3 years. It's more like getting worse.

He may be able to throw accurate passes but he isn't able to do so on a consistent basis. If you were a hater you could argue he is only lucky on those accurate ones. I for myself think he should put some serious work on that problem. And a problem it is to me. I too think at least two INTs were his fault becuase his pass was not on target.

You mean he isn't perfect......shocker! We need a QB who never misses on any of his throws!
 
Nick Saban wanted Jason Garrett to be his offensive coordinator at Alabama, but he would never allowed Garrett to throw 47 passes in Washington or 51 against the Bears. That is a fact.

There is too much pressure on Tony Romo to carry this version of this offense.

I have done some computations on Tony Romo's passing attempts in a game and Dallas' corresponding record. This is unofficial, but it should be real close to being accurate. I have Romo down for 1,955 pass attempts for his career, and I have him playing 61 games. I have included his 4 playoff games. Tony Romo has averaged 32.0 pass attempts per game during his career.

Here is what I found out. Some say that "it doesn't matter how often" Romo attempts a pass in a game, but my stats show otherwise.


35 or more: Dallas is 10-14 (W-L)
40 or more: Dallas is 3-6
50 or more: Dallas is 1-2

It should be no surprise that Dallas is 0-2. The offense has just jacked up 47 and 51 pass attempts, respectively. Dallas is 4-8 when Tony Romo attempts between 40-50+ passes in a game.

32 or less: Dallas is 21-6
33 or less: Dallas is 23-7
34 or less: Dallas is 29-7

When Tony Romo has to pass at least 35 times in a game, you are headed for trouble. However, when Tony Romo attempts 34 or less passes in a game, Dallas is a whopping 29-7.

Is it asking too much to get this quarterback a running game?

Getting Felix Jones in space and getting him some running room or running lanes would help out and help a bunch. It might be a good idea to get
Felix Jones the ball in space in the plus territory of the football field.

If you want to pound it, get Marion Barber the ball.

I would bench Tashard Choice.

Just get your quarterback a running game.....

 
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