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I hate to rain on your parade, but I'm not sure I buy the new story...and I doubt the national media will either. That seems a whole lot like a damage control tactic.

Have you seen the picture of the guy? For someone to reach over Zeke, hit that dude, and break his nose seems like a stretch. The physics of that just simply don't add up. But to be honest, I don't care. At this point it seems pretty obvious the league is going to suspend him and they'll more than likely lump this incident in with the previous investigation to justify it. Hopefully Zeke learns something from it.

I gave you a "like" because I'm not sure about anything that has been said by witnesses, although there's more that say he did it than the one that said he didn't. I'm still inclined to wait until further evidence comes out to decide if a suspension is justified, though.

I think it's within the realm of possibility that a tall man might deliver a blow over or slightly around Zeke's shoulder. It's also been reported that the victim didn't see it coming. Seems like he might have seen it if Zeke were right in front of him and popped him one. Not so, if it came from someone that was behind or slightly to the side of Zeke.

Ultimately, the bad publicity that Zeke is getting just might be something that would make Goodell and his henchmen decide to suspend Zeke, if for no other reason than it reflects badly on the NFL when this type of negative publicity comes out. To be sure, he's been on a short leash where the commissioner's office is concerned and it likely won't take much to persuade them to lower the boom on him. I can't help but agree, however, that Zeke is pushing his luck by partying so much and coming up with bad publicity in its wake. Not good.
 
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I gave you a "like" because I'm not sure about anything that has been said by witnesses, although there's more that say he did it than the one that said he didn't. I'm still inclined to wait until further evidence comes out to decide if a suspension is justified.

I think it's within the realm of possibility that a tall man might deliver a blow over or slight around Zeke's shoulder. It's also been reported that the victim didn't see it coming. Seems like he might have if Zeke were right in front of him and popped him one. Not so if it came from someone that was behind or slightly to the side of Zeke.

Ultimately, the bad publicity that Zeke is getting just might be something that would make Goodell and his henchmen decide to suspend Zeke, if for no other reason than it reflects badly on the NFL when this type of negative publicity comes out. To be sure, he's been on a short leash where the commissioner's office is concerned and it likely won't take much to persuade them to lower the boom on Elliott. I can't help but agree, however, that Zeke is pushing his luck by partying so much and coming up with bad publicity in its wake. Not good.
Your remarks regarding Goodell is the real point. Nobody really gives a hoot about a young boy getting into a scuffle in a bar...it happens a million times every night. When you are a young celebrity, precautions must be taken. The FO must take control and assign a person to look out for Elliott and their investment in him.
 

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Your remarks regarding Goodell is the real point. Nobody really gives a hoot about a young boy getting into a scuffle in a bar...it happens a million times every night. When you are a young celebrity, precautions must be taken. The FO must take control and assign a person to look out for Elliott and their investment in him.

I'm not sure if the Cowboys FO will elect to go that route but I surely wouldn't object if they decided to. They did so with Dez, so it's possible they might consider doing the same with Elliott. Zeke needs to fully realize that he could easily go from a hero to a zero if he's not careful. Bad things happen all the time to those who make bad choices and there's no question but what Zeke needs to use what's between his ears to better advantage.
 
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And I have no parade. So you did not rain on anything. you believe what you want, and I'll believe what I want.
I didn't mean for it to sound like that; I wasn't trying to be antagonizing or patronizing. I just don't buy the new story. That's just me, though.
 

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And maybe the guy didn't really reach over him, but was more on the side, but from the witnesses viewpoint and everything happens so fast, that was his perception.
Unless the guy was right in front of the victim, I don't see him doing that kind of damage. But I could be wrong.
 

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I gave you a "like" because I'm not sure about anything that has been said by witnesses, although there's more that say he did it than the one that said he didn't. I'm still inclined to wait until further evidence comes out to decide if a suspension is justified, though.

I think it's within the realm of possibility that a tall man might deliver a blow over or slightly around Zeke's shoulder. It's also been reported that the victim didn't see it coming. Seems like he might have seen it if Zeke were right in front of him and popped him one. Not so, if it came from someone that was behind or slightly to the side of Zeke.

Ultimately, the bad publicity that Zeke is getting just might be something that would make Goodell and his henchmen decide to suspend Zeke, if for no other reason than it reflects badly on the NFL when this type of negative publicity comes out. To be sure, he's been on a short leash where the commissioner's office is concerned and it likely won't take much to persuade them to lower the boom on him. I can't help but agree, however, that Zeke is pushing his luck by partying so much and coming up with bad publicity in its wake. Not good.
I just don't understand why it is so important to Zeke to be at these clubs at these times and risk this type of negative exposure. Ultimately, game checks hang in the balance. I sure hope he had enough fun over the last few months to justify the additional thousands of dollars he is losing as a result.
 

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I neglected to mention that I heard on the evening news last night that Zeke Elliott was coming to the aid of a woman that was being physically assaulted by the man who was allegedly punched by Zeke. Not sure if that would have any bearing on the commissioner's case, although I thought I'd mention it as a possible point of interest as well.
 

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I just don't understand why it is so important to Zeke to be at these clubs at these times and risk this type of negative exposure. Ultimately, game checks hang in the balance. I sure hope he had enough fun over the last few months to justify the additional thousands of dollars he is losing as a result.

This definitely would seem to be something that Elliott would choose to take into consideration and cause a change in his activities going forward. His parents were reported to be quite concerned that his lifestyle would become a problem and they obviously had cause to be. Jerry might have had a point about the 'rock star status' being somewhat overwhelming for him to handle wisely. I'm upset, just like we all are. Maybe the backlash of what's about to happen will convince him to reconsider the bad choices he's been making lately. I hope so.
 

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This definitely would seem to be something that Elliott would choose to take into consideration and cause a change in his activities going forward. His parents were reported to be quite concerned that his lifestyle would become a problem and they obviously had cause to be. Jerry might have had a point about the 'rock star status' being somewhat overwhelming for him to handle wisely. I'm upset, just like we all are. Maybe the backlash of what's about to happen will convince him to reconsider the bad choices he's been making lately. I hope so.
We actually went through something similar with Dez early on. Hopefully, Zeke figures it out quicker then Dez.
 

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It's not that we aren't collectively excited. The problem is the only discussion here as of late has been the looming suspensions of too many players, which for many of us is a waste of conversation.
Yes..

Suspensions have to be treated like an injury.

It's over and done with and we move on.

The lingering thing with Zeke is..

will the behavior stop ?

If not..it's like a guy who can't get back on the field becuz he keeps reinjuring himself.
 

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All this Zeke talk needs to be side barred to the appropriate thread, we are talking about the rookies reporting to camp today, people. Isn't anyone excited about that? @jday @Bullflop

Yeah, I also have posted some stuff on the "drama zone" although also responding here as a courtesy to those directed at me. Anyhow, I'm thrilled that the camp players will be coming in and will be anxious to read and hear what's happening. Thank God and goodness for that, huh? :)
 

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Is it just me or did this off season seem like it was much longer than it usually is? I was really for training camp the day after the Cowboys lost that playoff game in OT. :yourock::dance::flagwave:
 

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Yes..

Suspensions have to be treated like an injury.

It's over and done with and we move on.

The lingering thing with Zeke is..

will the behavior stop ?

If not..it's like a guy who can't get back on the field becuz he keeps reinjuring himself.
Whatever you want to call it, it is a tired and overplayed narrative that I am ready to go away.
 

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THANK GOODNESS, I'm ready to see news related to what's going on on the field.
 

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ESPN Live was quick to report the Zeke incident but yesterday, they did not say the new info of the witness, that said it was not Zeke.
so with the rookies reporting today, and TC nearing, wonder what garbage they will come up with today.

Man I am ready for the daily reports and such, time to start listening to the fan and the ticket again. Even though they have their stupid hating moments.

Havent watched SC since Stuart Scott died. #FakeNewsESPN is garbage
 

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I neglected to mention that I heard on the evening news last night that Zeke Elliott was coming to the aid of a woman that was being physically assaulted by the man who was allegedly punched by Zeke. Not sure if that would have any bearing on the commissioner's case, although I thought I'd mention it as a possible point of interest as well.
That's a script flipper. Being investigated for DV but honorably stands up for woman in club. If that's the case this story needs to come out.
 
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