Rooney Rule exemption...What's the problem?

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I'm sure you've all heard the reports that Jerry was considering asking the league for a Rooney Rule exemption in the off-season, likely because he will just hire Garrett.

When I heard this I didn't even bat an eye...It certainly makes sense to me.

However, when watching BSPN today (I know, I was asking for it), they had the topic up for discussion on "Around the Horn" ( I know, I was REALLY asking for it) and all three reporters acted as if this should be out of the question, and what a horrible message it sends.

Now believe me, I understand why the rule is in place, and I am not insensitive to the issue. But in the case where an owner is simply going to promote an in-house candidate that has been groomed for thus very job since he joined the organization's coaching staff, isn't it a little silly to make everyone waste their time to satisfy the requirements of this rule?

Do these reporters, or any of you whom also agree with them, honestly believe that it is somehow more beneficial to schedule interviews with candidates that Jerry has no intentions of hiring, just to prove that he didn't discriminate in hiring practices? In a situation like this where naming the next coach is merely a formality, wouldn't the act of interviewing African-American coaches only for the purpose of satisfying a rule actually be more offensive and disrespectful? There are so many talented minority coaches who should be considered for various coaching position based on their abilities, and not asked to waste their time interviewing for positions they were never even in the running for. Doesn't that make sense?
 
PC. that is what it is. nothing more. Yeah this got hashed out seriously in that thread.

Most media are going to be PC.
 
burmafrd;3714961 said:
PC. that is what it is. nothing more. Yeah this got hashed out seriously in that thread.

Most media are going to be PC.

I think it's more Mac than PC. I'm thinking of getting an iPad, what do you think, Burm?
 
i agree with your points. the only thing that it does is possibly provide the candidates an opportunity to do an interview and get better at that part of the process.
 
Jason Garrett is already the head coach, so I don't think the Rooney rule should even apply in this case if Jerry decides to retain him.
 
burmafrd;3715211 said:
a great inteview has done so much for SF hasn't it?

Tomlin was supposedly a great interview as well. So was Jason Garrett.
 
TheCount;3715250 said:
Tomlin was supposedly a great interview as well. So was Jason Garrett.

Which is part of my point...I believe the intent of the Rooney Rule is sound, and it is relevant when an organization is conducting open interviews for the HC position. It guarantees that owners interview from a diverse pool of candidates to ensure fair hiring practices.

However, when dealing with interim coaches, making owners and minority candidates conduct ceremonious interviews simply for the purpose of skirting around the red tape, I see it as both time-wasting and offensive to those candidates whom should be given actual interviews and consideration based on their talent. If Jerry actually has to abide by the Rooney Rule while having the intention to hire Garrett all along, they are nothing more than fake interviews and serve only to cheapen the process. This was not the intent of the rule when it was implemented.
 
TheCount;3715076 said:
I think it's more Mac than PC. I'm thinking of getting an iPad, what do you think, Burm?

Wait until the 2nd gen iPad comes out. They are always better. I know a few people that have an iPad....I decided to wait, and then may not get one.....however I do like my Iphone 4 very much.

Now this translates to football, because Garrett's 2nd gen team next year will be better. :D
 
jazzcat22;3715307 said:
Wait until the 2nd gen iPad comes out. They are always better. I know a few people that have an iPad....I decided to wait, and then may not get one.....however I do like my Iphone 4 very much.

Now this translates to football, because Garrett's 2nd gen team next year will be better. :D
By 4th gen they will figure out how to put a camera in it.

jk <3 u apple.
 
7footer;3715306 said:
Which is part of my point...I believe the intent of the Rooney Rule is sound, and it is relevant when an organization is conducting open interviews for the HC position. It guarantees that owners interview from a diverse pool of candidates to ensure fair hiring practices.

However, when dealing with interim coaches, making owners and minority candidates conduct ceremonious interviews simply for the purpose of skirting around the red tape, I see it as both time-wasting and offensive to those candidates whom should be given actual interviews and consideration based on their talent. If Jerry actually has to abide by the Rooney Rule while having the intention to hire Garrett all along, they are nothing more than fake interviews and serve only to cheapen the process. This was not the intent of the rule when it was implemented.

On the other hand, how can the Rooney Rule ever broaden the pool of serious candidates if teams can simply ignore it when their mind is made up?

Minority coaches don't have to agree to interview if they question the team's sincerity (as Detroit found when they hired Mariucci), and all the team has to do is make a phone call (Dallas complied when they hired Parcells by conducting a phone interview with Dennis Green) or sit down for five minutes with an assistant on their own staff, like Ray Sherman or Skip Peete. There's no evidence that complying with the Rooney Rule has actually harmed any coach or team.
 
NinePointOh;3715497 said:
On the other hand, how can the Rooney Rule ever broaden the pool of serious candidates if teams can simply ignore it when their mind is made up?

Minority coaches don't have to agree to interview if they question the team's sincerity (as Detroit found when they hired Mariucci), and all the team has to do is make a phone call (Dallas complied when they hired Parcells by conducting a phone interview with Dennis Green) or sit down for five minutes with an assistant on their own staff, like Ray Sherman or Skip Peete. There's no evidence that complying with the Rooney Rule has actually harmed any coach or team.
In this case they already hired the guy during the season.
 
7footer;3715306 said:
Which is part of my point...I believe the intent of the Rooney Rule is sound, and it is relevant when an organization is conducting open interviews for the HC position. It guarantees that owners interview from a diverse pool of candidates to ensure fair hiring practices.

However, when dealing with interim coaches, making owners and minority candidates conduct ceremonious interviews simply for the purpose of skirting around the red tape, I see it as both time-wasting and offensive to those candidates whom should be given actual interviews and consideration based on their talent. If Jerry actually has to abide by the Rooney Rule while having the intention to hire Garrett all along, they are nothing more than fake interviews and serve only to cheapen the process. This was not the intent of the rule when it was implemented.

I think ceremonious or not, getting brought in for a HC interview with a franchise like the Dallas Cowboys gets your name in peoples minds. Maybe not for that job, maybe not even for a HC job, but it's one more name in the mix.

I say let the "candidates" determine if the interview is a waste of time or not. If they are too prideful to let Jerry fly them in and spend some time talking football with the guy, I think it's their loss.

Maybe a guy comes in and it's no longer just a token interview when he walks out the door, maybe you go tell another owner, Hey I had so and so in and I really liked what he had to say and he seemed like a stand up guy, maybe you should have a look.
 
NinePointOh;3715497 said:
On the other hand, how can the Rooney Rule ever broaden the pool of serious candidates if teams can simply ignore it when their mind is made up?

Minority coaches don't have to agree to interview if they question the team's sincerity (as Detroit found when they hired Mariucci), and all the team has to do is make a phone call (Dallas complied when they hired Parcells by conducting a phone interview with Dennis Green) or sit down for five minutes with an assistant on their own staff, like Ray Sherman or Skip Peete. There's no evidence that complying with the Rooney Rule has actually harmed any coach or team.

I DK , i could pretty much see the whole world piling on against us mostly because of the hate for jerry (and the boys in general)that we would be the first team to lost a draft pick for this BS.
 
speedkilz88;3715520 said:
In this case they already hired the guy during the season.
So? They hired him as an interim (a role for which the Rooney Rule provides a specific exception), not the long term coach.

You can't get around the interview requirement just because you already know who you want to hire. That's exactly what the rule is supposed to discourage.
 
johnnyd;3715535 said:
I DK , i could pretty much see the whole world piling on against us mostly because of the hate for jerry (and the boys in general)that we would be the first team to lost a draft pick for this BS.

Why would we lose a draft pick for complying with the Rooney Rule?
 
TheCount;3715523 said:
I think ceremonious or not, getting brought in for a HC interview with a franchise like the Dallas Cowboys gets your name in peoples minds. Maybe not for that job, maybe not even for a HC job, but it's one more name in the mix.

I say let the "candidates" determine if the interview is a waste of time or not. If they are too prideful to let Jerry fly them in and spend some time talking football with the guy, I think it's their loss.

Maybe a guy comes in and it's no longer just a token interview when he walks out the door, maybe you go tell another owner, Hey I had so and so in and I really liked what he had to say and he seemed like a stand up guy, maybe you should have a look.



Thank you for taking the time to share your viewpoint on the matter. I now have a better understanding of why you and others who agree with you see it this way. I of course have a very different opinion regarding this situation, but that doesn't mean either one of our views are any less valid.
 

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