Russ Lande on Amukarma, CB from Neb.

[AKATheRake]

agree but i would add JJ Watt to the list im buying now he's a freak.

At # 9? I don't like him all that much. He is good off the snap, has a great motor and does cause disruption on passing downs but I don't think he's good enough against the run and he does disappear in games. Especially the bowl game against TCU.

 

[AKATheRake]

Few things ..

If you think this is the first time I have been this adamant about how much of garbage it is to bring up Blackmon vs Amukamara as a knock on Prince, then you haven't been paying attention. Since the day it happened I have been steady on what I've said.

But if you want to make silly comments to try to prove your point, go ahead.

Further if you want to count me as listening to any draft analyst, Mayock would be dead last on my list. After the garbage he spewed last year that made the rounds last year on Husker boards when he fully believe McCoy was not only a better pass rusher than Suh, no matter that Suh absolutely decimated McCoy statistically. He furthered it by thinking McCoy was actually better than Suh. After hearing that mess for months, I've been done listening to Mayock.

Back on point - I have watched that game probably 5 times in full. For different reasons, but Taylor Martinez's performance was remarkable, and I loved Eric Martin's hit from that game. But I doubt you remember either of those, since you likely only saw Youtube clips or a box score from that game. :laugh2:

Your breakdown of the plays ..

On the PI - stop listening to the notorious Ed Cunningham about Amukamara. Yes, Prince interfered, but Prince was not 'beat' on that play. Half-step behind with the ability to get a hand over the shoulder for a CB is not 'beat'. Good throw to the pylon over the shoulder by Weeden would make it a tough play by any CB. But if Weeden puts that ball anywhere else Prince is in position to make a play.

On the flea flicker - again, I doubt you remember how Kendall Hunter was absolutely pimp slapping Nebraska's run defense in that 1st half, and how he ended up with 200+ yards on the ground that day and 146 in the 1st half. If you watch, Nebraska's safeties and all 3 CBs bit on that play, and rightfully so thanks to OSU mauling us up front. The flea-flicker working the way it did was more a result of OSU running wild to setup that pass, more than anything else. That isn't a matter of Prince getting beat, but Nebraska trying to overcompensate for OSU's run game killing them.

You isolate one run block play. Even I said Prince struggles in run defense, but isolating that play out of a video when how many other run plays happened in that game is complete weak sauce to try to bolster your point.

'Toasts' him again on what playaction for a huge gain?

Blackmon only caught 5 passes in the game, bruh. Underthrown pass, the comeback, and the flea-flicker. Blackmon's other 2 catches in the game came in the 2nd half and if you want to get technical about what they were ..

Blackmon on Eric Hagg in the slot. Very short crossing route for about only a 2 yard gain.

Blackmon on Eric Hagg inside again. Runs a bit of a wheel route and catches a 25 yard TD during garbage time late in the game.

Blackmon's 2nd half stats - 2 catches 27 yards.

Blackmon's 2nd half stats on Amukamara - 0 catches, 0 yards

Again, a trick play, an underthrown pass (which Amukamara had position on) and a comeback route that Prince was beat cleanly on. But that = abused. :laugh2:

But like I said, watching only a Youtube video gives you a pretty jaded view, eh?

If you want the full video in 720p (because I'm cool like that), then let me know. Would be glad to hook you up with a copy so you can actually WATCH the game.

:laugh2: Still think you're wrong but you do seem like a cool guy.

In regards to remarks you made the first one when you quoted my post and you're still making some in this post.

I did watch the game by the way.

Never read any of your posts in the past regarding this topic so I don't have any other background on your beliefs regarding Amukamara nor do I think it's necessary too.

Amukamara is not worth a 9th overall pick. Any of our starting 3 WR's would send him dizzy.

First you say Blackmon did everything in the first half and now you're saying one of his biggest plays was in garbage time which would have to be in the second half.

One minute he was catching under thrown balls, the next he was catching balls half a step ahead with the corners arm over his shoulder.

Okay man.

Not worth getting into it about this anymore.

Got anything else you want to talk about that you don't contradict yourself?

I'm cool with that.

 

[BigWillie]

First you say Blackmon did everything in the first half and now you're saying one of his biggest plays was in garbage time which would have to be in the second half.

One minute he was catching under thrown balls, the next he was catching balls half a step ahead with the corners arm over his shoulder.

Okay man.

Not worth getting into it about this anymore.

Got anything else you want to talk about that you don't contradict yourself?

I'm cool with that.

Um, dude, Blackmon's garbage time TD was under 2 minutes when OSU was trailing by 17. Weeden threw to Blackmon's back shoulder on a wheel route when ERIC HAGG was covering him in man coverage. The catch is meaningless for the fact it was a garbage time catch, and for the fact IT WAS NOT ON PRINCE. Jeez.

And just for giggles, what have I contradicted myself about in this argument with you? I'd love to hear this.

 

[AKATheRake]

Um, dude, Blackmon's garbage time TD was under 2 minutes when OSU was trailing by 17. Weeden threw to Blackmon's back shoulder on a wheel route when ERIC HAGG was covering him in man coverage. The catch is meaningless for the fact it was a garbage time catch, and for the fact IT WAS NOT ON PRINCE. Jeez.

And just for giggles, what have I contradicted myself about in this argument with you? I'd love to hear this.

We're not going to agree on the match-up. It is what it is my man.

It's all good.

So would you like to select Amukamara with the 9th overall pick, since he probably will be there and we're the only team in mocks selecting him in the top 10 that I have seen?