Ryan Broyles pro day

NickZepp;4503668 said:
Just had his pro day. 5-10 188 lbs

32.5 inch vertical, 40 time 4.59

Not bad considering he just came off a bad knee injury.

I know we all love what we don't have. I'm curious about this guy too.

But I'm still very curious about Dwayne Harris in the slot, once he gets OTAs and mini-camps under his belt.

The two seem pretty similar in speed (Harris is faster) and size (Harris is bigger) and Harris is tough as heck.

I agree that Broyles is the more polished version though. I suspect if Harris was at OU for four years he may have put up sweet numbers as well. Their two final seasosn were awfully similar though. But Broyles gets the edge....somewhat.
 
I think Broyles carries an X factor with him as well and that factor is what if he produces in the pro's like he did in College and he is just a really good receiver on Sundays.

I think at worst he is a really good #3 for your team.
 
NickZepp;4503819 said:
2nd 40 time was 4.57. I understand how it got locked, because I posted it on another thread instead of remembering this forum.

This is about 6 months after the injury. My guess is he'll be about a 4.45-4.5 guy at full strength, although when that is could be a year from now or a couple years from now. But still to compare him to another. Kendall Wright is a 2nd round pick right now and ran a 4.61 40.

Yeah, he's not a track guy to begin with but no doubt coming off that injury hurt his 40 time.

That should be more than good enough to appease the workout geeks.
 
Broyles plays a lot faster than he is and is a solid WR and will be a solid slot guy in the NFL.
I'd like to have him but I'd prefer someone like Chris Rainey who can return kicks and punts, has that blazing speed, and compete for the #3 position...plus be gotten in the 4th or 5th round i.e. cheaper
 
Jeremy Ebert, WR, Northwestern - Speed - 40-yard dash 4.38 - He can take a short pass and make big gains with his athletic ability and speed. Ebert owns a team-leading 71 catches for 1,025 yards and 11 touchdown receptions

03/21/12 - 03/20/12 NFL DRAFT SCOUT RISER: Jeremy Ebert, WR, Northwestern: For a player with 173 career receptions in college, Ebert is far from a household name and hasn't received much attention in the pre-draft process. But after an impressive on-campus workout during Northwestern's pro day, perhaps that will change. Ebert, who didn't receive an invitation to the NFL Combine, ran his 40-yard dashes in the high 4.3's and low 4.4's, showing better-than-expected speed for the 20 teams in attendance. He also impressed with his numbers in the other drills, including the vertical jump (33 inches), broad jump (9'4) and short shuttle (4.15). Also, Ebert's time of 6.70 in the 3-cone drill would have ranked him third among all receivers at the Combine. He is a reliable possession receiver with soft hands and very good focus to make challenging catches. Ebert tracks the ball well and shows savvy and toughness on the field that shows up on tape. He is still widely viewed as a late round player or priority free agent, but he is moving up draft boards for most teams.

could be the best of the Small WR's
 
Again, I like Broyles if we can get him in the early 4th or later. He seems like a true slot guy...anyone that knows anything about that position knows that 5'10 is PLENTY big (even preferable) for the slot. See Welker, Harvin, and others for examples. The exception is also one of the best: Victor Cruz is still only 6' tall (at most). Anyway, you get the picture.

I have to do this many times every year when people throw out the "power conference" stuff to hype a player---be careful with that, especially at WR.


Here is a list of the last 5 WRs drafted from OU.

Manny Johnson
Juaguin Iglesis
Malcolm Kelly
Travis Wilson
Brandon Jones


Zero for Five.

It's not fair to lump Broyles with this group but it is worth noting that you can really pile up the numbers in that OU offense.
 
A receiver that damn productive in college is worth at least a 3rd round pick, probably even a 2nd round pick, based on production alone.
 
I wonder if some team will take him late in the second round, kind of like we have with Lee and Carter
 
DFWJC;4504332 said:
Again, I like Broyles if we can get him in the early 4th or later. He seems like a true slot guy...anyone that knows anything about that position knows that 5'10 is PLENTY big (even preferable) for the slot. See Welker, Harvin, and others for examples. The exception is also one of the best: Victor Cruz is still only 6' tall (at most). Anyway, you get the picture.

I have to do this many times every year when people throw out the "power conference" stuff to hype a player---be careful with that, especially at WR.


Here is a list of the last 5 WRs drafted from OU.

Manny Johnson
Juaguin Iglesis
Malcolm Kelly
Travis Wilson
Brandon Jones


Zero for Five.

It's not fair to lump Broyles with this group but it is worth noting that you can really pile up the numbers in that OU offense.

You forgot Mark Clayton and Mark Bradley. Mark Bradley's numbers aren't bad for the number of catches he got he's got 9 TDs in only 90 catches and all this with teams that have had no QBs in places like Chicago and Kansas City. Jones wasn't all that bad for a couple years in Tennessee for having a QB that couldn't throw to him.

Broyles is so much better than all those guys other than maybe Clayton.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTvbWx9LyHo
 
CATCH17;4504045 said:
I think Broyles carries an X factor with him as well and that factor is what if he produces in the pro's like he did in College and he is just a really good receiver on Sundays.

I think at worst he is a really good #3 for your team.

I think at best he is a great #3, but still his ceiling is a #3 slot guy
 
Honestly I don't think Dallas should take him in the first 3 rounds because we need more help than at WR. And I think he's probably gonna be gone by the 4th round. And I think he's better than just a number 3 guy also. I think he'll be someone's starting WR pretty early on.
 
NickZepp;4504387 said:
Honestly I don't think Dallas should take him in the first 3 rounds because we need more help than at WR. And I think he's probably gonna be gone by the 4th round. And I think he's better than just a number 3 guy also. I think he'll be someone's starting WR pretty early on.
Many offenses start with 3 anyway. He is a slot guy. That's what he does.
Welkerand Cruz are too. A slot guy can be on the field all the time if your OC prefers it.
 
NickZepp;4504376 said:
You forgot Mark Clayton and Mark Bradley. Mark Bradley's numbers aren't bad for the number of catches he got he's got 9 TDs in only 90 catches and all this with teams that have had no QBs in places like Chicago and Kansas City. Jones wasn't all that bad for a couple years in Tennessee for having a QB that couldn't throw to him.

Broyles is so much better than all those guys other than maybe Clayton.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTvbWx9LyHo
I like Broyles, like I said.

I just listed the last 5 I saw on a list. I guess I could have added two more and made it 7.
 
CATCH17;4504045 said:
I think Broyles carries an X factor with him as well and that factor is what if he produces in the pro's like he did in College and he is just a really good receiver on Sundays.

Another X factor is he comes across as an extremely charismatic and intelligent guy. He'll knock the socks off of any coaches that personally interview him, especially with all the diva/malcontents/headaches playing the WR position, and it just takes one to go gaga for him to set his value.
 
Ryan would be an excellent choice in the mid-3rd to early 4th round for us.

Part of the reason why I favour trade downs is that there are so many good players in the 2nd to 4th rounds in this draft. There are guys who will go in the end of the 3rd who might nomrally go in the 2nd round in this draft, IMO.

OTOH, the middle of the first round is far from specatcular. It is so far from spectacular that an OG is talked about around pick #11. Hutchinson lasted until the early 20s from what I recall if you want to benchmark DeCastro against the player who mostly commonly comes up as a comp.

The kicker to me is there are 3 guys who will be very good pro OGs who look like they'll be available in the second round and we'll probably have a shot at two of them at pick #45.
 
Here are two Ryan Broyles YouTube videos I found to add to the discussion:

[youtube]9uyQEEAtqvo[/youtube]
[youtube]iTvbWx9LyHo[/youtube]

The guy is intriguing, to say the least, injury issues (obviously in process of recovering from) and all.
 
jamesdojr;4503939 said:
Harris and Broyles had very similar success in college. Especially in their Jr. Sr. years. I don't know... It just seems like these small slow WRs come onto our roster year after year and fade into nothingness.

I'm just not down with many 5'10 receivers who run a 4.6 unless his name is Wylie. My god, that guy is unbelievable good... There is a highlight reel of Wylie on youtube and he just makes DBs look stupid. I was laughing at guys trying to catch him. One of the quickest guys I've ever seen.

Wylie over Broyles for me any day....

1. DL Fletcher Cox
2. OG Kevin Zeitler
3. LB Bruce Irvin
4. WR Devon Wylie
4. DE Derek Wolfe


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Wylie has susupect hands and gets dinged up alot. Gimme Joe Adams.
 
I like Adams too. His route running is not near as good as Wylie's. Don't agree that Wylie has suspect hands. He catches with his body some which coaches don't like but he catches the ball nevertheless. But yes, he has been dinged up.

Look at :35 seconds and :46 seconds... LOL

Anyone who doesn't want this guy drafted is on drugs. Sorry.

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RS12;4504605 said:
Wylie has susupect hands and gets dinged up alot. Gimme Joe Adams.
 
wittenacious;4504591 said:
The guy is intriguing, to say the least, injury issues (obviously in process of recovering from) and all.

The interesting part of that video is he's receiving instructions how to fire out of his stance in the 40 yard dash. It really hits home what a disadvantage players coming off of injury have in the draft process have. It's not just that he doesn't fully have his leg strength and range of motion back, but also the fact that he's been in rehab while all the other players have been attending draft prep and speed camps the last 3 months learning tricks and techniques to shave tenths of second off of their times.
 
jamesdojr;4504644 said:
I like Adams too. His route running is not near as good as Wylie's. Don't agree that Wylie has suspect hands. He catches with his body some which coaches don't like but he catches the ball nevertheless. But yes, he has been dinged up.

Look at :35 seconds and :46 seconds... LOL

Anyone who doesn't want this guy drafted is on drugs. Sorry.

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Thanks for the video. He really stands out as a gunner. I can't remember the last time I saw a guy make so many impressive plays covering punts.
 

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