Ryan Shazier Pro day

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ran a 4.37 40
42 inch vertical
Weighed 237lbs

Did tweek his hamstring at the end of the run
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I would rather move down and take him than have Moseley . He fits our scheme to a T
 

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4.37? Geez, I knew this guy had ability, but for his position, that is nuts - there could have been a little home cookin' there, but even so, that is fast
 

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what did he run at the combine? Is he another bruce carter? fast but needs instincts to utilize his speed?
 

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what did he run at the combine? Is he another bruce carter? fast but needs instincts to utilize his speed?

No he isn't another Carter. Shazier is a football player. Great instincts for the position and likes the contact.

I had kinda hoped he might slip some and we get him in the second with a slight trade up. Not gonna happen now though.

I wouldn't use a first on him because the position in our defense just isn't enough of an impact position to warrant a first round pick. We need DT or DE in the first.

Damn, he is a nice player though.
 

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Sometimes I feel like I am going crazy. I don't see the love for this guy. Yes he is fast but lets list the things that he doesn't do well:

1. Really struggles to get off blocks
2. Looks like he's never learned to properly tackle
3. Plays out of control and constantly over runs plays
4. Could be his over aggressiveness but it doesn't seem like he understands what his assignments are all of the time

Summary: He looks like a large safety trying to play linebacker. He is an athlete and just a run and hit guy at this point, not worth a 1st or 2nd round pick. I'm not saying he can be a good NFL player but he has a lot of work to do before he gets there.
 

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Bob sturm's write up on shazier on his blog


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Ryan Shazier - Ohio State - 6'1 - 237
In every position group, I want to identify the one guy who is thought of as a top talent that I "just don't get". Well, the linebacker group is an easy one for me to throw out, because it is this Ohio State Buckeye.

I see what everyone talks about with his tools. He is an impressive physical specimen and has the combination of a 42" vertical, 25 reps on the bench, and almost 11" in the broad jump that combine for a silly explosion number. I know he has manipulated his weight by bulking up for the strength tests, but not running at the combine. He will then, lose a bunch of weight and run his 40 at his pro day back down near 220 or 225 and post a solid time there, too.

But, I wanted to see way more on the field. What I saw was a safety playing linebacker who can run and tackle, but was easily blocked too often.
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He missed tackles in the Clemson and Michigan State games that I wasn't crazy about and didn't seem to pack much thump in his hits. He can cover down field, so if you want a nickel LB who can run with guys, I think you are ok here, but I don't like a major investment in a guy for just 3rd Down situations. I want a guy who can punish and intimidate guys from taking liberties across the middle of the field, and he just doesn't play that way.

He seems like a fantastic human being and everyone raves about his personality. He just doesn't pop off the tape enough for my liking and he had a few mental busts that scared me off him pretty quickly.

He is very productive, but on his defense, there were many opportunities for him to benefit from others attracting attention. He will really help a team as he is a very talented kid, and his plays on special teams were notable, including a blocked punt in the Big 10 championship game, but overall, I would say that this is a case where I think everyone else loves him more than I do.

And in Dallas, I just don't see a fit at all.
 

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Bob sturm's write up on shazier on his blog


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Ryan Shazier - Ohio State - 6'1 - 237
In every position group, I want to identify the one guy who is thought of as a top talent that I "just don't get". Well, the linebacker group is an easy one for me to throw out, because it is this Ohio State Buckeye.

I see what everyone talks about with his tools. He is an impressive physical specimen and has the combination of a 42" vertical, 25 reps on the bench, and almost 11" in the broad jump that combine for a silly explosion number. I know he has manipulated his weight by bulking up for the strength tests, but not running at the combine. He will then, lose a bunch of weight and run his 40 at his pro day back down near 220 or 225 and post a solid time there, too.

But, I wanted to see way more on the field. What I saw was a safety playing linebacker who can run and tackle, but was easily blocked too often.
StatsSacksTFLsFF's
2013723.54
20125173
2011341
Totals1544.58

He missed tackles in the Clemson and Michigan State games that I wasn't crazy about and didn't seem to pack much thump in his hits. He can cover down field, so if you want a nickel LB who can run with guys, I think you are ok here, but I don't like a major investment in a guy for just 3rd Down situations. I want a guy who can punish and intimidate guys from taking liberties across the middle of the field, and he just doesn't play that way.

He seems like a fantastic human being and everyone raves about his personality. He just doesn't pop off the tape enough for my liking and he had a few mental busts that scared me off him pretty quickly.

He is very productive, but on his defense, there were many opportunities for him to benefit from others attracting attention. He will really help a team as he is a very talented kid, and his plays on special teams were notable, including a blocked punt in the Big 10 championship game, but overall, I would say that this is a case where I think everyone else loves him more than I do.

And in Dallas, I just don't see a fit at all.

Pretty much what I said in a previous thread about him weeks ago. Not in the first or second. He is getting way too much hype.
 

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I'll take him in the 2nd round and wouldn't think twice about it... Plays with a certain mean streak you need on defense!
 
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